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Enthusiasm is not the same as electoral victory

I want to tell the story of 2008 really quick.

We had a ton of enthusiasm in 2008. The campaign proper was weak, but the grassroots raised 4 million, then 6 million in 2 days about a month apart.

We felt really good about ourselves.

We felt righteous, because no way that evil Giuliani or dopey Fred Thompson were going to do better than us.

Everyone expected a 3rd finish in Iowa, maybe even better.

  • They don't count the youth.
  • They don't count the independents.
  • People don't use landlines.

It didn't matter. We got 5th, which was respectable, but low enough that Fox (iirc) dropped Dr. Paul from a debate in NH.

The NH finish was really disappointing. Everyone was hoping Operation Live Free or Die would make a difference, but it really didn't. A lot of people just went to NH and did nothing, and the few who did work hard, well it wasn't the stuff winning campaigns need.

After NH, we were really deflated. Dr. Paul carried on longer, past Super Tuesday, but after the 5th place in Iowa, and the poor showing in NH, the campaign was over, even if we all believed in the necessity of a Ron Paul victory more than ever before.

A couple lessons I learned from the last time around.

1. You can't win without an awesome campaign staff.
2. You can't win with sign wavings or YouTube videos.
3. You can't win by rushing internet polls.

The way we win is to turn voters out. Voters have to be ID'd, brought to the caucus with as many people as they can muster, and they must stay until delegates are selected.

We're in a position to win. Will we win?

It's not for certain. As Ron Paul has done better, the long knives have come out. There are literally trillions of dollars of wealth being threatened by a Ron Paul presidency. These people take Paul very, very seriously. He may be the biggest threat they have ever faced.

Tomorrow we might finish 3rd due to shenanigans or just over-estimating what we have in Iowa. We might finish 1st and get beat up by the media again.

At this point, there is not a lot that will change what happens tomorrow night except maybe a brutal snowstorm.

But what we can do tomorrow is hit the phones for the campaign, stay positive and act with class. That way no matter the outcome we will know we have given our last measure.

Let's all hit the phones. It's do or die time.

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in 2008 I was picking my nose & wondering who this Huckabee was

This year, I'm making an hour's worth of phone calls, spreading the message online, calling into debate & challenge the talk show mafia, and donating cash to Paul.

It's different this time around.

The Red Coats are coming!

Repeat: Ron Paul placed 5th in Iowa in 2008 because...

Fox News sandbagged Ron Paul, Chris Wallace by saying Ron Paul "receives his marching orders from Al Qaeda, Rudi Guiliani, with his "911 blame" attack and Fox News editing out Ron Paul's response to Mike Huckabee's "It's about our honor..." statement on Afghanistan. Also, don't forget, Ron Paul was virtually "blacked out" during the month of December, 2007, with the possible exception of the Glenn Beck interview, in which Beck tried to tie Ron Paul to "911 Truthers." "True Believers" voted for Paul, "Newbies" stayed away BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BELIEVE RON PAUL COULD WIN.


We will never give up. NEVER!!

There's a way to translate enthusiasm into winning...

...make calls for Paul.

Pledge to make 100 this week!

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I've been harping on this too... where RP wins is the under 45 group. Unless they actually get up off their ass and show up to vote we are sunk. Many a campaign have relied on youth (a fair portion of that under 45 group) and have seen their dreams evaporate.

If you are in IA or NH, enthusiasm means nothing unless you vote.

Unlike others, I do not really worry about vote counting/rigging conspiracies. This year especially the campaign is in good position to have the necessary observers.

I worry most that too many people think saying "I support RP" is just a cool thing to do right now. Talk is cheap.

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the TV ads reach the older mainstream voters

which is why donations are the best way to help, and calling. Its easy to give up designer frappicinos each day and give it to our R3VOLUTION

great comment, thank you.

great comment, thank you.

Freedom and Reason, the highest ideals.

Ron will be chosen by the people....

but I fear election fraud and conspiracy. THAT is how we'll be beaten. Ron's message of liberty, et al. has struck the chord of so many that he will most-likely win the popular vote, but the media will report otherwise.
I hope that the compaign's (or grassroots') "vote police" are all over this like white on rice! YOU KNOW there's going to be election fraud against Ron, it just needs to be proven beyond a shadow, and "BULLSHIT!!" shouted loudly from the rooftops! Take it to court immediately, and do what's necessary to make it right. Let's hope we get a fair vote count in every state.

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Stay the course...look at all of the

muck we must wade through. All the media slander against Ron Paul, while propping up the other candidates. With this alone, we should be in 10th place, but we are not for several reasons! This entire race will be like this. Constant attacks, an uphill climb. Remember, we are working toward changing the course of history for the better-for the people, and it was/is never an easy task. Get ready to get right back to work when the Iowa caucus is over. Do not even, for a second, begin to let the media noise convince you that Ron Paul is not electable. They only say this because they know that he is. They know the people want him. What does that say about our media? Our media is corrupt. Journalistic integrity has been traded for gossip hour, slander, back stab, bias favoritism. They trade the truth for a lie & talk up the lie as if it is truth. Don't give them the time of day. Whether you know it or not, the medias constant bias is making them look bad & recruiting people to our camp. The media is attempting to plant seeds of discontent & disbelief into Ron Paul supporters that will grow into apathy, laziness, lack of will to continue on the path toward truth. Stay the course. Do not drink the poison. We know the truth & it must go forward. Our future hangs in the balance. Remember this as you move forward through the cesspool of corruption & deceit. The media & the establishment parties do not care about us. We must care enough about each other, friends, family, our children, to push the mountain forward. Though we do not know the outcome, there are greater forces at work in this world than corrupt people & interests with trillions of dollars. Much greater forces, & I believe we have tapped into it, by understanding & stating the truth. The truth stands on its own. The lie, must constantly be propped up with more lies & eventually will fall. Lets keep our heads up, be humble, yet bold & for those who are praying people, pray!

james williams

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Take heart

This movement is much stronger, more organized, and has much more gravitas than it did in 2008. People's blinders are coming off (I should know....I was one of them) and the youth are rising up.

Take heart. You guys have run with the torch for a long time, and understandably fatigued.
There is a new crop however, new torchbearers, and that number is growing.

Time for a little Reaganesque optimism. We can do this!

Ron Paul 2012! End the Fed. Restore liberty. Bring the troops home.

Norfolk, VA

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Thank you for understanding the fatigue

us older torch bearers should be able to hang a few more laps with you guys, but a lot of us spent money we did not have back then and now times are even a little tougher with the economy. It is great to hear that you are willing and energized to grab that torch and roll like a freight train!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!!

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

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I am honored to be a part of it!

Ron Paul 2012!

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

we must beat Santorum

It shouldn't even be close. A 2nd place finish would, in some ways be favorable. It's just amazing how the media completely telegraphed the so-called "Santorum surge"- and Iowans are just ready to waste a night on that goofball?

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I completely agree. On top of

I completely agree. On top of that, what I heard yesterday about Iowans being more concerned about who could win and keep up their status. This was more important to them than candidate ideals. No wonder the media continually say Ron could not win the Nation. On the other hand, we will now know for sure if a certain theory is correct. The supposed "tipping point" of 15% has been reached, and then some. It was not reached before. I have also heard several people say they were against Ron or hardly knew about him, just 2 months ago. After all the work we have done PRIOR to that two months, it seems so very strange, but I have heard it more than once, Well, we shall know soon.

Weather report for Des Moines, Iowa

Mostly sunny
High 41 degrees
10% chance of rain
Wind South at 20 mph

Partly Cloudy
30 degrees
0% chance of rain
Wind west at 16 mph

IOW, no 5-ft. snow drifts, no dangerous ice storms, no expanses of broken glass, and no easy ride to victory.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

The key is to stay untill the end.

"The way we win is to turn voters out. Voters have to be ID'd, brought to the caucus with as many people as they can muster, and they must stay until delegates are selected".
MOST important part of the post!! Please everyone reading this in Iowa. STAY until the end. Document as much of the process as possible but most importantly.....Stay and fight for Dr. Paul!!

Defending Liberty Night and Day!
The Northern Avenger

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I would disagree on your characterizations...

You said:

"There are literally trillions of dollars of wealth being threatened by a Ron Paul presidency."

No. There are entities who possess trillions of dollars of ill-gotten money, and THEY are threatened by Paul presidency. But trillions of dollars of wealth are not threatened by a Paul presidency. On the contrary, a Paul presidency would bring trillions of dollars of wealth to the people.

Also, you underestimate the power of the youth this time. People are waking up. BIG time Neither is not "do or die" time for this campaign. This is much much much bigger than in 2008.

Case in point. Republican establishment ticket voter here (until now). I never every paid a lick of attention to Dr. Paul until 2 months ago, and now he's the only one I pay attention to.

Take heart! RON PAUL 2012!

Norfolk, VA

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Well said

Very well said

I agree

You have to call anyone you know in Iowa and get them out to vote.

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Whatever the result: No Long Faces!

We'll be alert, fulfilling whatever needs there are at Iowa/NH and our local counties, communities and states, and keep on trekking the path towards LIBERTY.

Dr. Ron Paul has been at it for over 30 years. . . so good to see many joining our own long distance trek, which *just started*.

Enthusiasm is the nucleus

and without that, the message doesn't spread, and the votes don't come.

This isn't 2008.
We've come a long way since then, and 2008 was just the springboard for the beginning.

Agreed, 2008 laid the foundation for 2012...

I've been thinking a lot about Freedom and Liberty and what it takes for a nation to be free and for it's people to embrace Liberty.

People have to fight for Liberty. Government isn't going to give it to us. The last word of the Star Spangled Banner is BRAVE. We need to stop living in FEAR. We need to push the politics of BRAVERY. You can't have Freedom of Speech unless you are brave enough to allow other people to have Freedom of Speech. You can't have Freedom of Religion unless you are brave enough to allow other people to have Freedom of Religion. And, you can't have PEACE unless you are BRAVE enough to allow other people to live in PEACE.

Land of the Free and Home of the BRAVE.

I guess I'm responding to the folks that are concerned about Vote Counting Fraud... there was an email from the campaign last week posted on DP that basically said that they have the campaign people in place to be confident that the count will be accurate. What did Reagen say, "trust but verify."

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Voting Machine Fraud

I agree w/ the premise of the OP that "There are literally trillions of dollars of wealth being threatened by a Ron Paul presidency. These people take Paul very, very seriously."

However, if that's the case then I can't imagine them not rigging the Diebold machines against Dr. Paul (in the event he does win). I know Iowa goes with paper ballots so Dr. Paul at least has a chance in theory to win there but what about the other states that don't have paper ballots?

The difference this election cycle is

that there is no democratic caucus or primaries. If there is a primary in a state for the democrats it will have Obama's name only.

So what do the independents, who voted for Obama to get us out of the wars in the last election cycle, do this election cycle? Some will at sit home; will some vote for Santorum, Gingrich, Bachmann, or Romney? How about Paul?

I understand your points and think that it is wise to counsel caution at the same time I see big differences in this election cycle as well as similarities. Maybe this time we're right to be optimistic.

The truth is there are too

The truth is there are too many of us worrying about damn negative articles and blogging to the choir. No one reads the comments in the negative articles, except us and the neocons & liberal trolls. 65 year-old Iowan Republican does not, and he/she is the one that will be in the caucus.

We don't need to spend 24 hours online in chat rooms and blogging. Sure education is good, but we need HANDS ON action.

I second the motion to hit the phones tomorrow!!

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Very good points but when I remember NH last time

I think of the voter fraud. THAT was what blunted Ron Paul's momentum and assured that he never caught fire last time.

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There may be voter fraud this

There may be voter fraud this time as well. We can't afford to be good enough, we have to be better. We have to work harder and we have to outperform all expectations.

Nothing less will get it done.

Complaining about unfair media treatment, or how unjust the system is, or the two parties, or vote fraud won't change the fact Dr. Paul will not be elected if people do not commit to doing everything they can in the next 24 hours.

Freedom and Reason, the highest ideals.

keep it real

thats what i fear, there is so much online activism which is sometimes misdirected and does not give real results.
if people go out more and talk to voters and convince them about the cause of Liberty, that would be more effective.
and phone from home should be a basic minimum for everyone. we need to id the voters and then get them over to our side.

start hitting the phones today to get the vote out !

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Good post about expectations,

Good post about expectations, and how we can be calling the phones.

We are sending the whole Paul Campaign Team

Good thoughts about truth, love, joy, and deep gratitude for the work that you do. Also sending the same to the Iowa voters who absolutely know that something is radically wrong with present day America. These 'long-knives" that you mentioned have ruined this country with their drug-like push for wealth. They are sick. They are addicts and they really, really need a Good Doctor to fix things. Thank you so much for the work that you all do.

You argoodlyly appreciated...

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