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Jon Huntsman attacks...himself?

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Is there any journalistic integrity left in this country?

I'm serious.

CNN, MSNBC, and who knows how many other national media outlets have run stories, news clips, etc on this youtube video.

Do they have any idea how many vile and disgusting videos are posted anonymously on youtube everyday?

How can they purport to claim it was posted by a pro Ron Paul group named NH Liberty for Paul?

Do they have any idea how easy it would be for me to create a video saying Ron Paul is a disgusting person for delivering black babies as a doctor and then smack a "Vote Romney" at the end of the video? Oh, and then post it under a Romney group label named "Moderates4Mitt".

Would that video ever see the light of day and would anyone demand that Romney explain how this happened and why his supporters are racist?

You have absolutely got to be kidding me. The MSM has hit a new low.

BINGO!

BINGO!

Please explain this more. Are

Please explain this more. Are you saying that the Huntsman website is the first to refer this video?! Why would they refer it an how could they be the first unless they were the ones who made it?!!! Mon ami! I love Hercule Perot and the little grey cells!

This would be scandalous, really.

They were first to link back

They were first to link back to it,it wasn't the campaign though its a site I believe that's done by his daughters.

Sleep, those little slices of death; Oh how I loathe them.

*Poirot

*Poirot

I read 10 pages of comments

I read 10 pages of comments and I'd say 99% think either a Huntsman supporter or his daughters are responsible for making this video.

I guess the only ones who believe it was a Ron Paul supporter is the MSM talking dolts.

107.7 WTOP is full of crap

I heard that Paul supporters paid for that stupid, cheap Huntsman ad! So much bad reporting on a youtube account that is clearly a fake. I think the campaign should take the media and huntsman to task. Make them look like fools.

I wouldn't like "go after"

I wouldn't like "go after" Huntsman since it'll give him some credibility, but it would be good to say another campaign created a fake ad and here's the proof. But we need to verify this asap.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

I think it's already been

I think it's already been verified. The youtube account is obviously a fake. We need the Judge or someone. This is so much crap.

Is it tho? I know what I see

Is it tho? I know what I see and believe but I don't want to jump the gun and cause more problems then we solve.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

I know some of you guys are

I know some of you guys are excellent on here with tech stuff... This is big and needs to be squashed. I already had a family member contact me saying he's losing support because of this ad.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

This kind of has the makings

This kind of has the makings of a scandal if this indeed did originate from the Hunstman campaign!

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LMAO

Look at this.
Now someone makes a fake admission ugh this is getting ridiculous.
At least I assume it's fake as I cant access the supposed private forums lol.

100 bucks says they try to link that to some RP supporter trying fabricate evidence that it was Huntsman's campaign.

http://orinje.com/threads/430416-The-paulbots-are-going-craz...

Sleep, those little slices of death; Oh how I loathe them.

I dunno, it looks pretty

I dunno, it looks pretty clear to me that that forum thread you linked to is fake, as well. That doesn't help.

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CNN just ran a short clip of

CNN just ran a short clip of the Manchurian Candidate video purporting it to be by a RP supporter,that really pisses me off that they can do stuff like this.

A puppet account on youtube and CNN has the balls to even report this -_-

I'm done with CNN I'll never watch it again and have locked it out lol.

Keep flagging it as racist.

Sleep, those little slices of death; Oh how I loathe them.

This is totally irresponsible

This is totally irresponsible for CNN to claim that it was posted by a Ron Paul supporter, when it is much more likely to be a setup from Hunstman people.

This is nothing but National Enquirer tabloid crap.

I am irate.

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VIDEO REMOVED!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0

UPDATE: It's back up again.

NJ

Should we send this to Ben Swann?

Or any other reliable journalist?

"He did not come into the world to condemn it, but to save it." - John 3:17

"Well, you know it's like I always say 'it ain't government work if you don't have to do it twice.'" - Jerry Gergich

The most obvious reason why this wasn't made by a Paul supporter

is because a Paul supporter (a reasonable one, that is) wouldn't attack someone like Huntsman, who is not even really a dog in the fight as of now. This looks like more of an attempt to make him one...

"He did not come into the world to condemn it, but to save it." - John 3:17

"Well, you know it's like I always say 'it ain't government work if you don't have to do it twice.'" - Jerry Gergich

Exactly, This is designed to

Exactly,

This is designed to look like a vicious attack so that Huntsman can grab some free headlines and gain sympathy. It also gives him a great opportunity to casually mention that he speaks Chinese and has adopted daughters. Wow, what a great guy!

Jon also refers to this as the "Ron Paul" video in his press conference. He didn't even say it was a random Ron Paul supporter! This is a really nasty battle.

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Funny thing is...

... a Huntsman supporter on Twitter came after me a couple days ago and said "Ron Paul makes ads attacking kids!" And I had no idea what he was talking about.

It might be interesting to find out

exactly when that tweet came in, and who it came from.

It might be an important piece in the puzzle. Especially if it was right at the time that the video was uploaded.

It's from a follower of mine

He tweeted it to me around midnight. Not a spammer, just a normal dude. But it seems the Huntsman people knew about it really quickly.

Ridiculous

Nothing to do with Ron Paul or his campaign and likely an act of the actual Huntsman campaign!

But the problem is the media controls what the people see!

This is WRONG, there will be a certain percentage of people who do not get the actual story and just hear "Ron Paul supporters attacked Hunstman for adopting kids".

These establishment manipulators are sick.

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Check me if I'm wrong

Check me if I'm wrong techies, but the only way for it show up in the youtube stats as a referal from jon2012.com is for someone to have created a link on jon2012.com to the video and clicked on the link which would have made jon2012.com show up in the http headers as the referring sight. (this is why we always "break the links" when posting links here on the DP, so that the DP doesn't show up in the html headers as the referring website).

I suppose you could craft a html request and forge the http header to show the referring site to be jon2012.com. But that would be the only reason the jon2012.com site would show up as a referral besides the a webmaster at jon2012.com actually linking to it, which would prove this originated not just from a huntsman supporter, but from the actual campaign.

I can't really figure out why they would create a link on jon2012.com and then click through to the video though.

I'm no techie either but

I'm no techie either but that's how I interpreted it. How else could someone get to the video without searching for it before it was dispersed on social media. Someone had to send the url out to the jon2012.com page for them to link to it.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Yep made by insiders of

Yep made by insiders of Huntsman's Campaign

Good

I hope he is successful in get him to drop out?????????

That's just weird.......

possible makers of the video!

found this link on reddit:

http://orinje.com/threads/430416-The-paulbots-are-going-craz...

Not yet conclusive. Paulites, verify!

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