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Jon Huntsman attacks...himself?

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This is clearly fake. A this

This is clearly fake. A this point, it is impossible to tell what is what. That forum might have been made by an idiot Ron Paul supporter who is risking damage to Ron's campaign or yet again another setup.

Leave it be. The original video is clearly a set-up. Don't make things more complicated.

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*** FAKE ***

That is fake and bait for us. Do not promote it.

Look at the full forum:
http://orinje.com/forums/11886-Jon-Huntsman-Forum?s=75f14663...

There are only TWO threads total, including the one you posted.

The first one is entitled "Great plan to get rid of ron paul supporters ...FOREVER!"

It says:

Even when ron paul loses big time, his supporters will still be a thorn in the side of the status quo. We need to get rid of these people forever. I propose that after Huntsman is elected, he nukes iran, which will quickly result in WW3. At this time we can force a military draft, ship all them ron paul hippies to the middle east and use them as cannon fodder.

JUST LOOK AT THESE NUTS IN THE PICTURE!!! THEY ARE A DANGER TO AMERICAS FREEDOMS

Do you think that is how Huntsman supporters talk? It's parody.

The other thread is the one you linked to, "The paulbots are going crazy with our video"
http://orinje.com/threads/430416-The-paulbots-are-going-craz...

Same thing, it is over the top ridiculous.

I cant believe how stupid these people are. As campaign insiders many of you are aware we created the fake video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0 and made it look like it came from the ron paul people. This is a suprise it went viral. And the good news is paul is getting blamed for it.

My goodness this is turning out better than expected. I was on the phone today with the campaign and they have another one coming out monday.

And:

I helped make the video. I almost fell off my chair when i saw it on fox. I even got a call from the big man thanking me personally. This is pauls weekness. We should ramp this style of attack up.

And then...

Sorry guys, I didn't relize I was in the open forum. Can the huntsman team here move this to the insiders forum..ASAP

This is idiotic, over-the-top, fake parody banter. Yeah:
- "campaign insiders" who get calls "from the big man thanking [them] personally" hang out on some random forum with TWO THREADS
- They "accidentally" post a conversation of themselves admitting that they created the video with Huntsman's personal blessing in the publicly visible forum (as one of the only two threads EVER posted)
- They then say OMG THEYRE GONNA CATCH US MOVE TO THE "PRIVATE" SECTION, but the no one does.
- Someone on reddit immediately notices this "smoking gun" conversation on this random-ass forum and shares it. Thank God we caught them!

PLEASE. Don't be gullible people. This is obvious bait so over-zealous Ron Paul supporters will latch onto it and promote it as "smoking gun proofz it wuz Huntzman!!!"

Thank you.

for taking the time to put this to scrutiny. I'll post your reply back to reddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/ronpaul/comments/o5pzm/proof_ron_pau...
(search comment section, 'davio1')

At least this was shot down early :)

truth liberate

No problem, thanks for posting it there

By the way it looks like the guy who posted it to reddit could be one of the fake Huntsman "campaign insiders" in that fake thread. Notice that his name is Davio1 and one of the people there is Dave. Possibly the same guy. Like I said, that would explain how he immediately knew about this idiotic threat on this random-ass forum with two threads.

Is that a real site with real news and forums?

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I think so.

Here's a link. http://orinje.com/forum.php

It is an enormous simplification to speak of the American mind. Every American has his own mind.

~Ludwig von Mises

I don't know.

Honestly the first comment is feels a bit... fishy. Please people, be careful with this! We don't want to go off a dead end :)

truth liberate

But the next commet by Huntsman2012, sorta makes it real

"Sorry guys, I didn't realize I was in the open forum. Can the huntsman team here move this to the insiders forum..ASAP " by Huntsman2012

Personally the youtube screen shot should be enough to expose them, but I after looking at the news site and other forum, I am thinking it may be real.

Are you people crazy? People

Are you people crazy? People that are sneaky enough to put up that video would never have been so open about this on ANY forum. The person who made that forum is just a troll having fun by jumping in the mix and getting attention. Let it go.

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Yeah well...

The entire thread is awkwardly convenient. But hey, if it's the real deal, DING-DING-DING-DING-DING We have a winner! :D

truth liberate

Yeah totally, it is incredibly awkwardly convenient:

I have two things to say -
First, I couldn't resist. I left a comment, lol: http://orinje.com/threads/418845-Great-plan-to-get-rid-of-ron-paul-supporters-...FOREVER!?p=498464#post498464

Second,

It looks to me as if they were not anticipating us finding out that it was their campaign who posted this video, therefore they "accidentally" posted a private thread to the public, which just happens to "reveal" that it was a purely intentional joke. Pft. Yeah right.

"He did not come into the world to condemn it, but to save it." - John 3:17

"Well, you know it's like I always say 'it ain't government work if you don't have to do it twice.'" - Jerry Gergich

LOL

Nicely done! :D

truth liberate

Thanks!

:-)

"He did not come into the world to condemn it, but to save it." - John 3:17

"Well, you know it's like I always say 'it ain't government work if you don't have to do it twice.'" - Jerry Gergich

No idea about this site. So

No idea about this site. So glad so many here are experts :)

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Somebody get a screen cap

of this information! If Huntsman's people did put this up, and know they are caught, they will pull it down. This could be a huge scandal for Huntsman.

The campaign should turn this

The campaign should turn this around on Huntsman. He's been attacking Ron in NH (currently in second place) and has been getting a free ride. If this dirt is true his campaign should respond.

I'd love to see their

I'd love to see their response, (excuse) for their involvement in this when presented with the damning evidence. I know we shouldn't waste our time and we should try to ignore this nonsense but calling someone out may help in putting an end to this type of propoganda. I realize they can have us constantly chasing our tails trying to debunk everything because they can put it out faster than we can keep up with it.

Personally I know how ridiculous this stuff is and that it would never come from Dr. Pauls campaign but the part that bothers me is that there are SO MANY gullible people out there who believe everything they see and read. Plus I have a very strong disdain for liers, manipulation, and corruption so it really grates on me.

A click on the video is a vote for the video

to go viral.

Yes please explain for us

Yes please explain for us inexperience youtube folks. I see Jon2012.com. Does that mean one of the first one to link to it was jon2012.com?

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

I just posted my "investigation"

Here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/200852/did-huntsman-camp-create-the...

Can you spell out what you found for someone who isn't as tech-savvy as you whipper-snappers?

From earlier

Here's some more information to look at as well:

http://www.dailypaul.com/200788/recent-smear-video

Fox and Huntsman

Isn't it interesting how Huntsman and his daughters just happened to be ready to go on FOX and do an interview with Megyn Kelly within an hour of this vid being posted.

What a bunch of juvenile morons. Whoever put this up wasn't even smart enough to understand how easily it could be tracked and debunked. Based on the intelligence level of the propganda I've seen from the daughters I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they had something to do with this.

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LOL

Do these bozo's really think they can pull this kind of stuff on RP people? We rule the internet!

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

It might not work on RP

It might not work on RP people, but I heard about it during a radio news break while driving home from work today.

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Doesn't need any clicks. I

Doesn't need any clicks. I take your word for it. We don't need this video to get anymore attention unless someone can prove it was actually Huntsman or his campaign.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

NHLiberty4Paul.

Also the only video he posted was this one, kind of odd.

It is an enormous simplification to speak of the American mind. Every American has his own mind.

~Ludwig von Mises

busted

busted,remember the Cain video busted

1 hour ago

this story was released in a synchronized fashion. This is too obvious.

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