Two Excellent Ron Paul Articles

Gus writes that this article by Justin Raimondo at Antiwar.com is the best on Dr. Paul so far:

Ron Versus the Huckster
Antiwar Republican sets the terms of GOP debate
by Justin Raimondo

We know that Ron Paul did great in the Republican presidential debate sponsored by Fox News and held in Durham, New Hampshire, because how else can we explain neocon Andy McCarthy's exclamation of despair over at the National Review group blog? "Why," he cried out in anguish, "is there so much cheering for Ron Paul?"

Many people also wrote to tell me about this article by Vox Day at World Net Daily:

The Ron Paul Epiphany
by Vox Day

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Judging by the sounds of the laughter of the other Republican candidates directed at their rival, Ron Paul has now reached the second of Mohandas K. Ghandi's four stages....

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Please regerster as a Republican

We have to get him in the White House.
It is as simple as that.

Glendale Keith

Glendale Keith

antiwar.com is an excellent site

And I hope to see Justin show for Ron paul in SF. That said, Justin and most suporters of antiwar,com, like myself are INDEPENDENT or Libertarian and NOT going to re-register GOP just for Ron Paul, and why the Ron Paul campaign is missing it's mark in CA with it's GOP or bust nonsense.

California is a closed primary!

To vote for RP in California, you must register as a Repulican. To say you want him for Pres. and not be willing to do that is hypocritical.

Californians, if you want to give RP a chance to win the election and to vote for him, you must be a Republican....period!

Florida is a closed primary too and I had to switch....and I didn't like it either. And if Ron Paul does not get the nomination, I, along with millions of others will hopefully switch to another party.

But for now, please don't bite your nose off to spite your face. Ron Paul is extremely principled, but he would change his affiliation for a good cause as he would consider himself foolish not to....and he is no fool!

Bob W., Naples, FL

Bob W., Naples, FL

YOU ARE Misinformed or a LIAR

I have been registered as DECLINE TO STATE PARTY since 1996 and the only parties that ever closed their ballots to DTSP was third party (gatekeepers to the GOP and DP corporations). I could vote Green or Libertarian or for an independent candidate by asking for a provisional ballot. I was an inspector for a precinct for the Los Angles county for 5 years, LOOK ON THE CA SEC OF STATE PAGE. It states right there what MY rights are.

Now...I heard a rumor, no one has proved...but that the CA GOP would close it's ballot to DTSP voters, (thereby delivering 33% of the vote directly to Killery- TALK ABOUT STUPID PEOPLE DOING STUPID THINGS?). This rumor has caused an uproar in CA DTSP voters, that IF the GOP DOES indeed close it's ballot for the primary they will be sued for FRAUD, by COERSION.

So GOP in CA better CONSERVE it's established practice, or it's going to face a Class Action law suit that is HAPPILY being written up by Independents WHO ARE SICK AND TIRED of the puke and crap!!!!

FREEDOM, LIBERTY and JUSTICE to VOTERS!

LIAR?

Hey, lighten up a little. According to the Primarily Paul page, California's primary is "Closed", which is generally understood (as by the Florida resident above) to mean that one must be registered Republican to vote in the Republican primary. The "Register" link on that page goes to a registration form which does indeed state, in very fine print, that:

California law allows voters who 'decline to state' an affiliation with a qualified political party or who affiliate with a nonqualified political party to vote in the primary election of any qualified political party that files a notice with the Secretary of State allowing them to do so. You can call 1-800-345-VOTE or visit www.ss.ca.gov to learn which political parties are allowing nonaffiliated voters to participate in their primary election.

Which looks to me like (a) allowing unaffiliated voters to vote in their primary is entirely a voluntary choice by the party, thus (b) a class-action suit against a party that didn't allow unaffiliated voters in its primary would be found to have no basis, since there is no requirement in law that the party allow this. And of course such a suit would not be heard in court until after the election, so even a victory would be pointless, if the point is to obtain a good showing for Ron Paul in the Republican primary. Which is the only way, realistically, that he can have a chance at the presidency. Third party candidate? Been there, tried that, in 1988; I was there.

For my part, I was a hereditary and lifelong San Francisco Peace & Freedom liberal Democrat until a political epiphany in the early 1980s caused me to switch to Libertarian. I voted for Ron Paul in 1988, and haven't bothered to vote at all since, as the exercise in futility didn't seem worth the effort. (No disrespect to Harry Browne, who like Aaron Russo was a good and great man, but I just couldn't bring myself to profess "14th Amendment" "U.S. Citizen" status and give a slave number.)

The thought that I might ever register Republican had literally never crossed my mind before last month, and if it had it would have been about as palatable as eating excrement. But that is just what I'm going to do, so I can be sure to vote in my state's closed primary, as I feel Ron Paul is truly our last, best chance to stop this country from going over the cliff into the abyss. It had also never crossed my mind that anything like the Ron Paul Revolution would happen within my lifetime.

I fully expect to rescind my Republican affiliation right after the primary, and probably my registration after the November election. I don't like the idea of being on the Beast's books at all, but in this case this really unbelievable opportunity has given me reason to bend my rules. If I were still living in California, I'd register Republican to be sure I wouldn't miss my chance to vote for Ron Paul. Otherwise I wouldn't be registering at all.

"Ron Paul campaign is missing it's mark in CA with it's GOP or bust nonsense."? It isn't the Ron Paul campaign that sets up these rules, it's the political machine that has taken over this country. Perhaps it will come, eventually, to armed revolution (or maybe not), but in the meantime, to change the system short of that we have to work within the system, which means the primary system as it is set up.

"TALK ABOUT STUPID PEOPLE DOING STUPID THINGS?" Hey, they're not stupid; the Machine doesn't want Ron Paul to get any votes, so of course if there's any way they can keep out a large group of voters who're likely to go for Paul, they'll do it. That's just politics. The Republican Party has no intention of winning this election; just like last time, it's already been decided who'll be the next president. It's the Democrats' turn, and all the Rudy McRomneys are dutifully playing their parts. Ron Paul is a wild card who won't play with the team.

That America might lose its opportunity to put Ron Paul at the helm because too many "principled" people couldn't hold their noses and register Republican would be perhaps the greatest irony of recent world history.

Not going to re-register GOP just for Ron Paul

Does California have a closed or an open primary?

If it is an open primary then you don't need to re-register.

If it is a closed primary then you should register Republican if you care anything about the freedom movement.

OPEN

All the information you need is on the Secertary of State Page under elections. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. That's where they are.

Granger, please supply link

I'm not here to discredit you, but Californians need the proper information.
If you do not need to register Republican in California to vote in the primary, then please supply the specific link to that information relative to that. If you cannot, then it is not accurate and it appears your attempt is only to harm Dr. Paul's chances of winning the primary.

Until supplied and verified accurate, I would recommend people that truly want Ron Paul to have a chance in the primary, to register Republican. And believe me, I have no love for the Republican Party, although there are many quality members there, just not the ones that control it .....for the most part anyway.

Bob W., Naples, FL

Bob W., Naples, FL

See links in my posts

Bob W, I've done the research; see links in my posts. Granger is mistaken, and may very likely be disappointed if he relies on his "right" to vote in the Republican primary as an independent.

Posting at same time Politeia

We were writing at same time, so saw your post after posting my question.

Thanks for the info.

And I believe Granger is a she. She's got a lot of spunk, I'll give her that. I can't blame her for not like playing by the GOP rules as many of us have a real tainted opinion of what is going on, but is a necessary evil I suppose.

How do you like the parade idea Politeia? Value your opinion....and Granger's too.

Bob W., Naples, FL

Bob W., Naples, FL

Sorry, NOT a right

According to "Decline to State - Voter Information":

California currently has a "modified" closed primary system. SB 28 (Ch. 898, Stats. 2000), relating to primary elections, was chaptered on September 29, 2000 and took effect on January 1, 2001. SB 28 implemented a "modified" closed primary system that permits unaffiliated ("decline to state") voters to participate in a primary election if authorized by an individual party's rules and duly noticed by the Secretary of State. ... You may request, from your county elections official or at your polling place, the ballot of a political party if authorized by the party's rules and duly noticed by the Secretary of State. [emphasis added]

As a "decline to state" registered voter, your participation in the California Republican primary is not a right, but a privilege granted at the discretion of the party, if it feels it is to its advantage to do so. It certainly seems likely the party bosses would prefer to keep all the libertarians out of their primary this time, and if they do, you'll have no basis for any objection. It's their party, they can invite whomever they want.

The scales ARE FALLING!

I enjoyed BOTH articles immensely! Regarding Vox's comment on the "scales falling from people's eyes" I totally agree. As we go out here in Dallas with various events to promote Ron's campaign, we are hearing more cars honking for Ron, more passers-by giving the Thumbs-Up for Ron and more people stopping to ask us, "Who IS this guy?!" Folks, IT IS WORKING!!!

I hope everyone reading this incredible gift that the DailyPaul is will do SOMETHING to promote Ron's campaign, and NOT just on the internet! You could go house to house just in your neighborhood with the Slim Jim pamphlet, you could put a Ron Paul sign in your yard, you can join a Meet Up and hit the streets for various sign-waving events or car rally's or car caravans as they did in Oklahoma City or plaster your city with Ron Paul signs as they did in Jacksonville, Florida, or chalk the sidewalks in busy cities or on college campuses. Think "guerrilla" and attack like a Ninja! Point being, GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING! We are winning hearts and minds every day, whether the MSM will admit it or not. The key is GET ACTIVE! As a former pastor of mine used to say, "Your greatest ability is your AVAIL-ability. And your greatest responsibility is your RESPONSE to your ABILITY."

In the profound and immortal words of Margaret Mead, "Never doubt that a group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that EVER HAS!"

Spell his name right, please

Vox Day's article is indeed excellent, except that he repeats what seems to be a trend these days: misspelling the great Indian leader's name. It's GANDHI, not "Ghandi".

Mike Huckabee and Honor

When people justify their actions based on their "honor" being at stake, it shows they have a problem with PRIDE. Christians are supposed to be identified by HUMILITY.

For Mike Huckabee, a so called Christian preacher, to appeal to voters' pride makes me question his Chrisitanity and his Biblical knowledge.

To have another "Christian" president, who isn't really, or who doesn't know how to act like one, would be extremely damaging to America and Christianity.

How many lives are we going to sacrifice on the altar of PRIDE?

Reminds me

His use of "honor" reminds me of the old saying:

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
--Samuel Johnson