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Michael Nystrom & Moderators: Please Banish Eeyores on Voting Days!

Hi Michael and Mods,

First off, thanks for staying in for the Long Haul. :) And thanks for the endless hard work it takes to keep a site this big running.

Second, a suggestion: PLEASE banish the Eeyores on days that people are voting for Ron Paul!

For those who don't know, Eeyoreism is a form of inadvertent trolling.

Eeyores start threads with headlines like "So discouraged today ... why do I get the feeling that Ron Paul will get third or fourth" to vent their own feelings of discouragement and depression. They may succeed in getting rid of those feelings themselves--but like a virus, those feelings get multiplied and spread every time a new undecided voter shows up the The Daily Paul to read what real people are saying about Ron Paul.

So Eeyores actually create what they're whining about, without even realizing it!

Talking like a mopey, depressed downtrodden Eeyore is arguably as damaging to morale, motivation and turnout as any of the other LSM namecalling out there. Actually, because it comes from one of us, it's potentially even more damaging.

When I was volunteering at the Iowa Caucuses for Ron Paul, I logged in to The Daily Paul to get motivated and see what volunteers in other parts of Iowa were up to. And half of the active forum topics were whiny, moaning, "the fix is in," "Romney's too strong," "the MSM hates us," B.S. It was incredibly demotivating.

So, PLEASE...at least on those days when people are actually out there voting, and people like me are out there volunteering to get out the vote...please banish whiny Eeyore posts from The Daily Paul.

And if you catch yourself wanting to post something Eeyorish on The Daily Paul, please go post the same comments on some other candidate's site instead. Wouldn't this look good posted in the comments section of a story on Mitt Romney?

"All over the MSM this morning all I see is talk of a Jon Huntsman surge and Newt and Santorum .... all surging ... and coupled with the fact that they have electronic voting machines in NH, I can't help to feel helpless in knowing they are going to manufacture a Huntsman "surge" into second and might even possibly go so far as to prop Newt or Santorum up into third.

Please, someone give me some encouraging news .... someone who's on the ground in NH and familiar with the action in NH."


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Ever hear the phrase "Misery Loves Company"?

I consider the Daily Paul the home of my Ron Paul family. We all get discouraged from time to time, and the Daily Paul is a great place to go to share our concerns as well as our joys.

Michael can do what he wants-- it's his website, but personally, this talk of BANNING certain threads MAKES ME SICK!

This is the kind of crap that I would expect from a Romney or Santorum cite, but NOT one dedicated to a LIBERTY candidate like Dr. Paul.

Like I said, the decision is Michael's, but I think we all know what Ron Paul would say.

Sorry...but I'm not discouraged

I'm guilty of such eeyorism. However, I'm not discouraged no matter what happens because of this:

"Ideas are very important to the shaping of society. In fact, they are more powerful than bombings or armies or guns. And this is because ideas are capable of spreading without limit. They are behind all the choices we make. They can transform the world in a way that governments and armies cannot. Fighting for liberty with ideas makes more sense to me than fighting with guns or politics or political power. With ideas, we can make real change that lasts."

-Ron Paul, in Liberty Defined.

We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

-C. S. Lewis

Yes Smile and here's a Great one on Jon Huntsman Coming up

He's on record for cap & trade, bailouts, big war contracts. also NDAA- you tube on that as well
close ties with Obama, just a wanna be spoiler in the race. This will send him to the same status that Perry, Cain & Bachmann earned.

That's huge!

Nice YouTube!

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

I totally agree with this

It could even be a 3 day window up until the polls open.

We feel for the Eeyores but they can wait for hugs until after the damn polls close.

*sigh* -- Thanks for noticing

*sigh* -- Thanks for noticing



OOOOH we could indefinately detain

all negative posts!

"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within" W. Durant


I think nay-sayers could easily be considered "enemies of the state"

Exceptable tone scale

Based on the following scale, all posts should contain a tone of at least 3.5 (cheerfulness).


Note: Only skilled practitioners (e.g., Cruise) should attempt anything higher than 4.0 (enthusiasm).



"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

I wholeheartedly agree

There was a time last week when I was getting quite down about Iowa, the msm bias etc. I have to say that the many negative posts on DP influenced that, so I had decided to make a concerted effort to avoid negative posts - at least until I was feeling more optimistic.

While I think it might be useful to have a place for "criticism" or "negative" material, I would support having that in a separate area, one that does not get included in the Recent Topics, Active Forum Topics, etc. It could be a separate subforum that you can choose to visit by going into the Forum and finding the section.

That way we don't have to see all the negativity in front of us, but if we need to vent or discuss something that might be deemed criticism, we can do that.

(Though I still think mods should continue to delete troll posts or posts that are critical for no real purpose)>

Of course, it's all up to Michael to do whatever he feels is best for DP. He's made DP a success so I think we can trust he knows what he's doing! :)

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I vote we start with this one.

Who's with me?

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

I think more important would to ban eyesore headlines

I saw one this morning that proclaimed that huntsman won the NH primary among others stating like "Ron Paul really is racist" then posting information to the contrary of course. But still to anyone on the outside seeing these type of headlines might get the wrong idea, its bad press so to speak. Some may not even click further to read what is in the actual content of the post. These blatantly wrong, misleading, or false headline grabbers are the ones that should be banned from posting content here. Keep your headline relevant to what you are posting about, post the most important part of the headline and make it the truth, not some BS so people will click on it.

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I'm with you 100%

Posting on The Daily Paul is a first-class ticket to the front page of Google. It's a power that internet marketers like me dream of having. I would encourage members of The Daily Paul to use that power in support of Ron Paul's election.

As someone who was working on the ground and depending on The Daily Paul for inspiration and support last Tuesday in Iowa, I can tell you that negativity is contagious. So is positivity. So if people want to moan and whine about things, I would encourage them to call each other on the phone and do it, instead of creating negative content and posting it on The Daily Paul.

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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Okay, what's your phone number?

Okay, what's your phone number?

LOL!!!!!!! I couldn't resist!

Anyways, you do have some good points. Next time I post, I'll make sure to at least make the summary pleasant so when seen in search results it doesn't look bad. I'm not worried about the content because most of my posts are either positive news, or pointing out media bias issues (In a tactful way without using inflammatory language, i.e. pointing out the truth where it needs to be pointed out).

Relax. This site has a neat

Relax. This site has a neat way to deal with threads it does not like - they simply get ignored and disappear. I know it, happens to mine and I begin to get the message.

However, if people do reply to a thread - and as much as in the one you've cited - there seems to be a need to have such a thread and to venture such thoughts. Why suppress them?

Personally, I like people who can admit to getting depressed and then stand up again and continue to fight. They can be a good example for those who feel discouraged and lift them up again. And I fail to see how it is better to offend those people as 'donkeys' and 'eyesores' and tell them to disappear.

I simply wanted to start a discussion relevant to today ...

I simply wanted to start a discussion relevant to today, and apparently there were other people who felt the way I did. I'm glad I posted it, because there are some very encouraging reminders in the comments section. So for me and the others who chimed in on the thread, it was a good exercise.

As I side note, I tweaked the summary text so it didn't look so bad ;)

As another side note, I never used the word "Depressed" - LOL :P

You expressed inappropriate disappointment

on an open internet forum for liberty. What were you thinking? Eeyore! You should be a Tigger! Where are the PR people to sanitize the boards? RP's 30 years of honest fidelity to freedom and the constitution could be derailed! Delete!! Delete!!!!! </humor>

Oh well.

If you think that's right. Oh well.



You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

I noticed the comments made

I noticed the comments made about some posts are very harsh, including some below. If people don't like a thread don't comment and let it run its course. Post away and do not let anyone belittle, intimidate, or be aggressive.



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If you see any of the Eeyore posts, post the links here

It will make it easier for the mods to spot. I just put one into Off Topic. Thank you.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

good idea Michael

We have to be extra vigilant today.

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I wasn't able to click on the DP

banner for a few weeks because of a big black box. Start a new category: Irony-Blacklisted


It is your site, you can run it in any manner you wish. Even in a manner which is fundamentally opposed to the core principles espoused by Ron Paul.

This is how the corrosion starts...

If we cannot handle comments from people that agree with us but are disappointed about something and wish to express their disappointment, we are not strong enough to prevail.

Thanks for your good work. However, I would not consider selectively silencing those who post negatively good work.

are you sure you

understand ron paul's 'core principle' of property rights?
free speech is mere subset of property rights.

As my post indicates

I understand that it is Michael's site to run as he sees fit. But if he quashes negativity because it is inconvenient to our mindset, doesn't that make this site more like the media that filters out Ron Paul's message from its content?

Look in the mirror and ask yourself if you wish to operate in the same fashion of the MSM that so many here decry as unfair and biased. I love this site, but this flies in the face of open and free communication. I see the silencing of negativity for mere convenience as antithetical to what I love about this movement.

It is totally Michael's decision, right or wrong.

It's Michael's Site!!!

This is Michael's site. (Michael do with it what you think best.) I am grateful that Michael operates it and makes it available to me. If at any point I feel the site is too "moderated" it is my right not to patronize it. I feel Michael does a great job. I do not question his right to keep this site one that reflects the ideas and spirit of Ron Paul as he as moderator sees fit. We the people endorse his site by our patronage, he does not operate it by our permission.