Plan A, Plan B
Submitted by everlasticity on Wed, 01/11/2012 - 21:56If you have watched campaign coverage of Ron Paul in the last few days you know that there has been a great deal of talk about how "dangerous" Paul and his supporters are to the general election chances of Mitt Romney or any other republican nominee that isn't Ron Paul. This is an opportunity that we need to exploit. It is not time for us to begin thinking about the leverage that our vote could have over the platform of the republican party coming out of the national convention. While I think it would be great for Ron to speak at the convention, I do not think that should be a primary goal of us supporters. I am not about to bargain away four years of dedication for some empty campaign promises.
I am a forward thinker and a realist. I do not bank on one single goal or one single strategy in my approach to campaigning for Ron Paul. I consider the different contingencies, such as a brokered convention, a third party run, an Obama victory, a Romney victory, etc. Which is what leads me to develop what I call plan B.
Plan A is simple, it is to campaign as hard as possible for Ron Paul in the hopes that he takes the republican nomination. If Ron Paul does not get the needed number of delegates, then a brokered convention is the best we can hope for. Nobody disputes plan A.
Plan B is a little more sophisticated, since it both encourages Plan A, but also redirects its focus. Plan B is to prevent a republican from winning the general in the case that Ron Paul does not get the nomination. This supports Plan A because it means telling republican voters to vote Ron Paul because the election prospects of any other candidate are sunk without our support. So plan B is really in line with Plan A, however, the emphasis shifts to how we are going to prevent a republican victory in 2012. There are two ways, 1) One is to simply refuse to vote for the republican nominee under any and all circumstances 2) Get behind a third party candidate even if it isn't Ron Paul (but especially if it is Ron Paul).
The importance of Plan B is clear. If a Republican other than Ron wins the election in 2012, our cause for liberty will be put on hold for 8 years as opposed to only 4 in the event that Obama wins. The only other possibility would be for a Democratic candidate that somehow rallies us the same as Ron Paul. Not likely. This is because the incumbent's nomination is essentially not at stake in the primary during re-election like in the opposition party, where several candidates vie for the nomination. This means that we need to be as committed to preventing a republican victory for Mitt or Newt or whoever takes the nomination (other than Ron Paul) as we need to be committed to getting Ron Paul the nomination.
The two plans are not mutually exclusive so there should be no conflict here. But we must be vigilant. Nothing will harm the campaign for freedom more than 8 years of establishment presidents. If we can't win this year, at least we can create the opportunity to try again in 2016.
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I'm in. Ron Paul or bust!
I'm in. Ron Paul or bust!
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I'll vote for Ron Paul, for whomever Ron Paul designates, or I'll write in Ron Paul.
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Dennis
I'm A Ron Paul Republican
I joined the GOP because Ron Paul told me that the GOP was available to be taken. Ron Paul told the truth. To be Independent or Third Party and support Ron Paul means "YOU have bought MSM lies about the GOP. You do not believe Ron Paul is telling the truth about the GOP.
Right now, joining the GOP enables us to WIN. Not joining the GOP, and waiting for Ron Paul to FAIL in hopes he will run third party is a mistake. A HUGE mistake.
Other than Ron Paul, there is NO ONE in any third party or prepapred to make an Indy run that has a chance. So if Ron Paul does not go Indy/3RD (and he won't) you wind up with Obama.
My Republican Central Committee is being operated by Democrats, RINO, they ADMIT they are Democrats, only keeping the chairs warm because there is NO GOP willing to take the party. That is wxactly what Ron Paul suggested to me in 07. I hoped he would run Third Party or go Indy. I regret it. I regret not joining the GOP sooner. Ron Paul was right. I was wrong.
If you have not joined the GOP, you are not helping him win.
STAND WITH RAND 2016
Nobody suggested not joining the GOP.
That is the first thing one needs to do to help Ron win the nomination. However, many of us, myself included, are only wolfs in sheep's clothing. I am some ways very resentful that I have to participate within the republican party. Anyone who studies history knows that the republican party is only a label that changes from decade to decade. The republican party was different in 1980 than it was in 2000. And while we have the opportunity to change it again, this doesn't change the fact that a two party system prevents voter choice. I am as hopeful for the chance at a viable third party (along libertarian lines) as I am for a Ron Paul presidency. That is because I don't think a democracy is healthy without choice. So while a Ron Paul presidency may make an important impact at this point in history, if he loses, and we don't think about other alternatives, we are really just letting ourselves fall victim to the same forces that you are accusing me of.
No one is suggesting to join the GOP but Ron Paul
I joined the Libertarian Party in 1976. O became a Indy/ Decline to State Party in 1992. It wasn't until Ron Paul that I bit the bullet and joined the GOP last year.
The fact I found Democrats running the party made me feel regret for not listening to Ron Paul in 07.
Third parties are for vetting and mothballing candidates. Ralph Nader ran as an Independent and had SEVEN Third Parties supporting him to make ballot access in 49 states. Oklahoma will NOT put third party, so there's one state right off the bat, you can't win.
I have spent nearly 40 years working hard at making a viable third party of Indy... Ron Paul showed me, the MSM and Bush killed the GOP. It's a shell. It is a third party, and it's OURS if we just join and get active.
Good luck to you.
STAND WITH RAND 2016
Looks to me if you don´t get Ron
you will likely get a police state. Everything else gets moot at that point.
If that happens, how many you have educated will make a difference how it will all turn out.
So either way, do your best to spread the idea of liberty.
Obama or Mitt will make no difference. That is my assessment. Maybe I am wrong. We will find out perhaps.
/Mike
Front Fell Off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
I'm with you on this.
Except I am not sure this country will last even 4 years without the true patriot Ron Paul at the helm. I think this is our only chance to save the nation.
Would writing Ron in be covered by your Plan B ?
you are right on the money
if Ron Paul don't get potus this nation is literally finished ,we need to do any and everything we can do to make sure that he is elected because i don't want to see this Constitutional Republic destroyed !!
Writing Paul in
Is definitely Plan B. I think Ron Paul supporters understand what I am getting at naturally, I am just trying to articulate it in the form of strategy as well as reinforce the idea.
I think it is also worth pointing out that if we accept defeat after this election because Romney or Obama win, then plan B would be to bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. We can't think that way. Four years ago, every one said the same thing, "If Ron doesn't win then it's all over". But it wasn't and it isn't, so it doesn't serve us to think that way, except maybe to light a fire under our ass. Plan B exists in the event that the world doesn't end. Might as follow Plan B since there is no opportunity cost if the world is going to end anyway.