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U.S. Marines Allegedly Urinate on Taliban Corpses

I use to be a Marine, went to Iraq in 2005, I got out in 2007. Anyway I thank God every day I don't got any blood on my hands! I did security detail for the base out there, never left. Either way I have to live with my choices and my past thinking! I understand now, I do I'm sorry guys. These people are monsters and at one time I called them fellow brothers...

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=15341700




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Its not right but the troops are probably off their rocker

bring the troops home

I'd rather us steer clear of topics like this

While it is abhorrent, I don't see the purpose of spreading this type of info. People from all countries and all types throughout history have desecrated the bodies of their enemies. While I think they should rise above it, if I happened to kill someone that just killed a friend of mine, I can't say I wouldn't spit on their dead body. War is an ugly and dirty thing.

This point is never brought up...

No one ever thinks about the fact that the military lowered their standards for entrance several times over the past ten years due to low recruitment levels... Due to the unpopular wars.

Blowback, exemplified.

Yup and if they really need

Yup and if they really need you they would just do a draft! Ain't that great?

juan maldonado

What grinds my gears is the

What grinds my gears is the outrage that anyone would could ever consider that a member of the US military would do something like this. I can guarantee that without a doubt, someone from every branch that served in a combat role, from vietnam to the south pacific to europe, hell, prob even the civl war and the revolutionary war, pissed on someone they just killed. Its just that these idiots were stupid enough to allow themselves to be recorded doing it. When you put 19 or 20 year olds in a fucked up situation, fucked up things happen. And unlike the wars like the world wars, when, arguably, we were actually fighting something, today my fellow marines are fighting, killing, and dying for something they cant touch or feel or consider tangible in any sense of the word. They see the enemy as only someone who might try to kill them or who had just previously killed a friend of theirs. So when these misguided warriors take down the "enemy" they think of it as a great accomplishment to disrespect the enemy's slain body. This is what happens when winning wars is based on body count and not actual territory gained or lost. And that is what happens when the President starts a war without a declaration from congress.

My heart goes out to my fellow marines and their families, I can speak from experience the pain and suffering that this war put on our loved ones due to the damaged psyche of so many of our bravest and brightest. People say never forget, I say never again.

I have to return some videotapes...

So when do the wars end? We

So when do the wars end? We can make history

juan maldonado

What a Crock of Sh##

First:
This is coming from ABC News. It looks real, but the question should be wether it's ok that we had to kill these people...just don't pee on them?

Second I don't believe that you juano were ever a Marine. I have never in my military career heard a Marine say "I thank God every day I don't got any blood no my hands" and "these people are monsters". Who you talking about?

Your fellow Marines? Your Comrade in arms?

Whenever, we in the Military, go to war, we are there for one thing..Kill and Destroy.

They are and forever will be "Our Fellow Brothers"

it's mindsets like this that

it's mindsets like this that are the scourge of humanity.

it's a sad state of affairs when the occasional simpleton such as yourself randomly rises to some level of authority in politics where they can negatively affect civilization.

thankfully this isn't a worry with you. you found your natural level in life and have sunken to it: potential cannon fodder.

Yeah, that's the one thing

Yeah, that's the one thing you're there for - to kill and destroy. And everyone who ever saw American soldiers coming down their streets will fully agree that this is the only thing you do: kill and destroy! It's the only thing you can do, the only thing you're fond of, and the only thing you've ever been good for: kill and destroy.

Add to this some perverted fun in torturing your prisoners and spend your free time bludgeoning sheep to death:
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3Dsgar...

Need some more cruelty towards humans? There you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz57nWz-zw0

And if the mood strikes you, you go killing your own women, like for example LaVena Johnson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Z_haZqh60

Your fellow sister in arms, huh?

Kill and destroy, yeah right. Being dehumanized by a war machine is nothing to be proud of.

It's extremely hard for anyone who ever SAW you guys in action to turn around and comprehend that there are indeed American soldiers who have something like a soul and a conscience, and to grasp that there might actually be some among them who will say "I thank God every day I haven't got any blood on my hands". It's hard to get pictures like the ones above out of your head and see the numbers instead that say so-and-so-many American soldiers support Ron Paul because he will end all that 'kill and destroy'.

Don't make it harder than it already is.

Chuck Finley's picture

Yea

"Dear Frederick Thank you for your nice letter but I am actually a US Marine who was.... Born to kill whereas clearly you have mistakenly me for some..." CPL Person Generation Kill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK2rUVKKuKI

"Freedom is Popular"

Your out of your mind! You

Your out of your mind! You see it's that mentality that produces such a disgusting act. It's there country man, they have a right to fight us, just like if the Chinese invaded America. I was a marine and I'm proud of myself for all the crap I had to put up with for my country. But wrong is wrong man! You sound like Ronald Reagan " thou shall not speak I'll of another republican" lmao. Wakeup man

juan maldonado

I'd like to pretend I'm outraged by this....

...but I can't. If the headline read, "US Marines take human lives in undeclaired war" then I'd be outraged.

The fact that they pissed on them after KILLING THEM, really doesn't seem to bother me.

We send stone cold killers in to fight wars. The fact that they also like to piss on people after they've killed them isn't the problem. The problem is that we sent them to kill people in the first place.

Yeah I can care less what

Yeah I can care less what happens to my body after I die! Your dead, you know? But there certain things that shouldn't be done! I mean what's the point in it? I guess I just feel bad for those poor people

juan maldonado

Oh the Shame

It used to be the 90% keeping the 10% of screw ups in line. Looks like things have changed since my time.

"...don't worry...they still

"...don't worry...they still hate us cause we're free...

...not because a handful of idiots do something like this from time to time. Things like this and Abu Graib don't drum up hatred..."

(Santorum giving himself a peptalk in the mirror before a debate)

Nothing "Brave" About American Soldiers

American forces in Afghanistan are fighting with the most technologically advanced weaponry the world's ever seen. They can plant a hellfire, via remote control, right through a man's chest from a control room in Nevada. At a moment's notice, they can call in multiple air strikes, guided by GPS, night vision, the whole works.

Yet STILL, we're supposed to talk about how "brave" and "honorable" they are, fighting impoverished farmers with AK-47s and homemade explosives they have to PHYSICALLY PLACE and detonate themselves, then pray they can get the hell away before all HELL is unleashed on the area.

So brotha, I think we need a SERIOUS reassessment of who the dudes with the balls really are. It certainly ain't these arrogant, pissing, assholes who act like they just took out some Soviet Special Forces or something. You took out some scary farmers in ratty clothes and small arms, who just want you to get the FUCK OUT of THEIR COUNTRY! Such brave invaders you are.

You obviously have no clue

You obviously have no clue what your talking about, I've been to Iraq and served my country. Terrorists rarely "physically place" their IEDs, they pay people to do it for them, then they blow it up on us... Oh and all that high tech shit you said, must be nice because I never saw any of that when I was there... It's not like the movies, you have an IBA and Kevlar, 210 rounds, water, and your m4... You are scared everytime you leave that base and drive on red or if need be black routes... Or when they tell you it's too dusty out for medivac so you really hope today isn't the day you lose a limb... When your sleeping and some terrorists launch rockets and motars in your living area...

Please if you've never woken up to bombs hitting near you and consistently running to a bunker then just don't assume shit...

I've never once asked to called a hero, but look how many people we have in this country and look how many actually served there country, just don't sit back and talk shit about something you haven't done...

It's not easy going to war, having all your friends and family wonder if they will see you again alive, seeing friends die, and having someone else happy that they did it...

sharkhearted's picture

Thank you for your service, bro! Don't listen to the coward

Don't listen to the "laptop coward" named Revere 1776.

I am personally sorry that you have to be exposed to some of the hate speech against the troops that this pathetic excuse for a man unleashed on his comments to you.

Most of those behind Dr. Paul LOVE the troops, while many of us despise the Military Industrial complex, which has nothing to do with the troops.

This sorry-ass, vile, venomous, lap-top coward Revere 1776 paints with a prejudiced broad brush and confuses the two.

Thank you for your service, and I feel very sad for your buddies that did not make it back, made it back maimed, and the ones who suffer with PTSD.

God Bless you, bro...and pay no attention to the milk-toast, limp-wristed laptop cowards like Revere 1776 who contribute nothing good to the conversation and spread their own type of terrorism with words.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Yeah, again, WHO's in WHO's

Yeah, again, WHO's in WHO's country man? And, I'm sorry, you're full of it when you say all that high tech stuff isn't used. Tell me, how many air strikes have the "enemy" been able to call in? How many armored escorts with mounted .50 cals? How many of the folks there have night vision by their bedside when their door gets bashed in at 2:30am by TROOPS WITH NIGHT VISION coming to shoot up the place, only to find they got the wrong house cuz they got "intelligence" from some farmer who had a grudge with his neighbor. How many drones they got buzzing around where they get to throw a hellfire from a secure cave location. You're a moron on top of being a liar. When YOU clear a nest of "insurgents," you get to feel a tad relieved. If THEY manage to take out a small detail, THEY know they gotta get the fuck outta there cuz you can be damn sure that place is about to get lit up by a SLEW of everything from troop reinforcements to tanks to 500lb bombs! Don't paint yourself some sort of underdog in a fight against un-uniformed peasants.

I have no sympathy for foreign occupier's fears of death when THEY'RE OCCUPIERS in an AGGRESSIVE WAR in SOMEONE ELSE'S COUNTRY that never lifted a finger against a single American their entire lives, EVER! The REAL heroes in uniform are those like Bradley Manning, who had the chance to look the other way, BUT DIDN'T and got TORTURED by his OWN gov't for more than 8 months for exposing THE TRUTH - or those who REFUSE to fight in an evil war of occupation, choosing rather to get a dishonorable discharge that follows them the rest of their lives and spend time in jail.

I don't NEED to go to war to know it's WRONG, just like I don't need to join the Mafia (a far less lethal criminal outfit) to know what THEY do is WRONG.

sharkhearted's picture

Your comments and insults to the troops...

...are disgusting, vile, and reprehensible.

You are a dishonorable and hateful individual, full of malice and cowardice.

I doubt very seriously you would be man enough to make these comments in person. I know if I heard or saw you doing such to one of the troops, I would interpose myself on the situation.

I am sure they wouldn't need me, however, and could take care of the situation just fine. ;-)

I suppose there is free speech and you can say what you want, but there are a LOT of military people here and who are hot on the cause of liberty and are the biggest donors to Dr. Paul, so you should be ashamed of yourself.

You are no Revere and no 1776. You sound like a Marxist troll, not a freedom fighter.

And I suppose this country is big enough to include people like your sorry arse.

Such is the price of living in a free society.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Yes! All your words are true.

Yes! All your words are true. Did you hear mitt Romney victory Speech? Made me wanna throw up talking about a more powerful military , are you kidding me?

juan maldonado

"Soldiers! we have sinned

"Soldiers! we have sinned against Almighty God. We have forgotten His signal mercies, and have cultivated a revengeful, haughty, and boastful spirit. We have not remembered that the defenders of a just cause should be pure in His eyes; that 'our times are in His hands... God is our only refuge and our strength. Let us humble ourselves before Him. Let us confess our many sins, and beseech Him to give us a higher courage, a purer patriotism, and more determined will; that He will hasten the time when war, with its sorrows and sufferings, shall cease, and that He will give us a name and place among the nations of the earth."
August 13, 1863 R. E. Lee, General.

"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820

And R.E Lee was fighting for

And R.E Lee was fighting for the RIGHT side of that war... More honor in Lee's spit than in Lincoln's whole being.

We're suppose to fight only

We're suppose to fight only if we're attacked. That's there country man! And Americans wonder why there hated so much through out the world. When I was out there some marines thought it was funny to feed pork chop mre's to the Iraqis! So evil. This real guys

juan maldonado

they have been there too long and seen too much

in the video you can hear them talking about who shoot the one in the middle so in context they had just killed people who were trying to kill them and the really sad thing is that when they do come home they will have to fit back into society. its so sad

So true man. The whole world

So true man. The whole world see's them for who they are. It is sad, but there just victim of war. There gonna do time probably, then get kicked out. There life is gonna suck man! There gonna hate the government. Lol. Karma

juan maldonado

its a distraction

to bury the story about Iranian nuclear scientists that were assassinated. back in november during the debates Gingrich said if he were president he would assign covert operations to assassinate nuclear scientists and then deny we had any involvement.well guess what, they did it yesterday, and Hillary was denying any U.S. involvement. is Ginrich psychic or did he read the C.I.A. script in advance?they are instigating blowback so they have an excuse to attack Iran

I'm not making excuses for these guys

but for those of us who never served, you have to understand a few things. One of which, is that you are trained to not only kill the enemy but to dehumanize them...it makes the job much easier. It's the reason why there are no distinctive facial features on standard silhouette targets, or why bayonette dummies don't scream "ow" when you stick them.I see this behavior as a result of that mindset.

for me, the hypocrisy from the administration is astounding. These marines could have waterboarded them for information and that would have been ok. But the desecration of their bodies is being prosecuted as an 'over the top' offense, not because of the moral repugnancy of the act alone but because another cold hard truth of war bubbled to the surface and spoiled their image.

This dehumanization is so

This dehumanization is so incredibly dangerous, even more so now that unmanned drones piloted by guys thousands of miles away are being used more and more. I am terrified of the video-game army.

Chuck Finley's picture

I read ya But

Isn't that why we have Police? The dehumanization effect is completely appropiate in the heat of Combat.

You should Read "On Combat" by LT COL Dave Grossman.

I own both "On Killing" and "On Combat" by him and they are amazing books. I highly recommend these for those interested in the Psychology and hopefully getting a different answer to this article.

"Freedom is Popular"