we all know the pop. vote, but Iowans, what about the DELEGATES?
We've been saying for a while now how delegate representation is the most important of all things and is what truly matters in the end.
so we all know where the popular vote stands, it was a close fight for third. given the number of people overall who actully caucused, i think that the 3% is quite a slim number. we all knew iowa wasnt our state for the popular vote.
however, there are reports coming in on other forums saying that their precincts got RP delegates elected, and that the delegate election takes place after the popular vote, and that a lot of people clear out after the popular vote, leaving the possibility of getting RP representation in DELEGATES much more likely.
Id like to hear from IOWANS about any positive delegate reports theyve witnessed at their caucus! or at least some clarification on the process for the rest of us primarians :)
i think THIS kindof news is what will help cure our depression of the evangelical popular vote. The ministers might have told them to vote for their religious candidate, but perhaps they forgot to tell them to vote for their religious candidates delegates.
fire away (i hope)!
Winner takes all delegates
I heard that on CNN tonight and found it on this website:
http://people.howstuffworks.com/question721.htm
"At the Democratic convention, the number of state delegates is proportional to the number of votes received in the state primary or caucus. The Republican Party uses a winner-take-all system in which the delegate or candidate with the most votes in a state's primary or caucus wins the right to be represented by all of the party's delegates at the national convention."
I think that's why some candidates (Rudy) don't campaign in Iowa. Why spend money if you don't think you will win? We did get a major victory in public opinion. Ron Paul is not a fringe candidate. He is not Gravel/Kucinich/Hunter et al. Some people still equated him with those fringe candidates. Not any more.
I stand corrected...
According to thegreenpapers.com:
Republican Party Caucuses meet in each precinct at 7 PM CST (0100 UTC). Each Precinct Caucus chooses the precinct's delegates to the County Convention. There is no formal system applied in these Precinct Caucuses to relate the presidential preference of the Caucus participants to the choice of the precinct's delegates to the Republican Convention of the County in which the precinct is located.
NOTE: No National Convention delegates are actually being pledged to contenders for the Republican Presidential Nomination as a direct result of the voting taking place in these caucuses: the County Conventions will choose delegates to both Congressional District Conventions and the State Convention and these, in turn, will pledge National Convention delegates to the presidential contenders later on the process. Any estimate as to how these caucuses will eventually translate into the pledges of actual delegates to the Republican National Convention is, at best, an educated guess and is for informational purposes only.
"Luctor et Emergo" - Struggle and Emerge
Sorry, ny friend, BUT....
It is my understanding that a candidate in Iowa needed to reach 15% to be in contention for ANY delegates. Hence the frustration at being 10%.
"Luctor et Emergo" - Struggle and Emerge
dems
I think that is only for Democrats
dems
I think that is only for Democrats
http://www.ronpaul2008.co...
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/states/iowa/state-convention-proc...
nothing is stated here about a 15% requirement. but it isnt very clear on how the delegates are voted upon, (same as the straw poll/popular vote?)
the only 15% requirement i recall is on the democratic caucus side.
The 15% viability rule
only pertains to the Democratic Iowa Caucus.
thats just for the democrats.
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As an Iowan..
Let me weigh in. That's only for the democrats. The republicans selected county delegates at the precinct level, this year apparently they changed it so one does not get elected but merely has to sign up and pay the fee for the food at the county convention. At the county convention district delegates are elected and at district the state ones are elected. I am officially signed up as a county delegate and will do all I can at the convention to push Ron supporters through to the district level.
yay THANK YOU. great job
yay THANK YOU. great job taking action on the part that truly matters. can you help clarify for me how many county delegates are appointed? does this number vary across precincts? were there any other delegate slots for your precinct or is it just one per precinct which would then determine how many delegates were in a county?
no delegates were voted on tonight.
not sure why.
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no STATE delegates were
no STATE delegates were voted on tonight because that happens sometime late winter/early spring.
there is a delegate process that goes from precinct to county to state or something to that degree. the most local level delegates were voted on tonight i believe. and that is the story i want to hear, since ultimately those delegates go on forward in the process, not the popular voters.
Precinct 5 in Jackson County Iowa
There were 6 delegates to nominate. We got 3 and the others that were elected were Duncan Hunter Supporters. Those individuals attended my meetup and showed an interest in Ron Paul. I will be working on them as the other candidates shake out. My guess is Duncan will drop so they are ripe for moving to Ron. I just need to make sure they dont go for McCain. Hopefully he drops out and then they should deffinately be in the Ron Paul camp