I wish I never posted this. End the thread
You are being way too overly dramatic .
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Look, I think it is perfectly fine to question Doug Wead, sorry but he did work for Bush and I think it is acceptable that there be some questions about that.
Saying Curry is a horrible person is stupid, before you attack him you may try listening to the show. Curry was there for Paul even at the beginning and I'm sorry but some of us just don't trust some of the folks from the establishment.
I am glad to have Doug Wead's support as well but the questions about his past are fair. Also it was Dvorak questioning his creds not Curry. Either way, he worked for a really bad RINO and it is fair to question it.
You really should think about listening to the show, it is extermely informative.
Calm down guys, Curry/Dvorak are the good guys!
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I'm talking about the way he overreacted to people disagreeing with him.
Just because a lot of us came to Doug's defense doesn't mean we don't appreciate the endorsement or you asking questions.
Seriously. As far as the down votes go, it happens sometimes...
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I think it is in the Edit view.
It seems like a fine endorsement to me.
What do you expect from an ex-MTV VJ? ;)
You people are horrible. Is that what we have become, a group of yes men that can stand no criticism? Do you people want Curry on our side or what?
it was Dvorak who raised the possibility of a compromise. listen the today's show, they talk about this again and now agree that Wead is probably a good guy.
this show promoted Ron Paul before long before it was cool, so ease up on Curry and Dvorak. its healthy to question everything.
the 'media assassins'
been a fan of John C. Dvorak since his days at TechTV & post-TechTV at TWiT with Leo.
Adam Curry already endorsed the Doc back in 2008 & actually did one of the earliest alt.media interviews with the Doc. He and Dvorak both endorsed Dr. Paul this time around as well.
Curry recently moved to Austin, TX from CA.
If you listen to the show, you can easily gauge that it's mostly comic commentary and actually cover some info that even Infowars misses. but as far as meta-'conspiracy' meme, Adam is harmlessly, hypochondriac paranoid. He even believes in that WellAware/DallasGoldbug guy who thinks every photo he comes across is a COINTEL. but it's not like he's serious about it.
Adam can definitely use more discernment. And, I did listen to the latest podcast that you're referring to, in which he airs his concern about Doug Wead, with some cautious optimism that Doug is not a plant.
but all that tells me is that he has not seen the "For Liberty" R3VOLution documentary where Wead sincerely repents "I was a shill" referring to his days advising the Bush Crime Family.
Because his actions have spoken a million times more louder, I truly am inclined to believe him.
yeah, I think this is one of those too much inside baseball stuff: much in the way that most liberals would've been clueless of libertarianism, had it not been for that Aug. 2010 expose by Jane Mayer on Koch Bros, to smear the Tea Party and the entire libertarian movement just in time for Nov. 2010 elections, for the sole purpose of preventing a populist coalition so championed by the Doc for over 40yrs, history of people like Wead and Bruce Fein fall in the same category.
Similarly, I wouldn't expect those just finding out about libertarianism to be versed in all of its infinite subfaction infighting & history, either.
I just see it as a natural progression in discovery.
but if you've listened to the show, whenever Curry and Dvorak make a mistake, actually they're quick to reassess their readers' rebuttal.
So, if you do choose to correct Adam by directing him to watch the entire 2hr version of the "For Liberty" R3VOLution documentary, I'm sure he'll reconsider.
WHEN the doc becomes POTUS, the one person in RP2012 campaign that I AM concerned about is Bruce Fein.
When hearings commence on 9/11, and Sibel Edmonds is called, if the Doc ever placed Fein in any position at Justice Dept. by then, I'd fully expect Bruce to recuse himself and any staffers closely linked to him. As a former intel analyst/translator for the FBI who's literally listened in on OBL & cross sections of Congressional crimes, she is the single most important Federal whistleblower alive.
As much as I love and respect the Doc, while I understand why RP would hire Bruce Fein for his feisty demeanor and Constitutional knowledge which does serve a specific purpose, nevertheless his past history is a recipe for an easy 9/11 investigation derailment, mainly due to his ties to AIPAC/Heritage/AEI & Turkish intel lobby.
back to Curry: even if Adam doesn't figure it out, it's not like he's waging a campaign to malign Wead. Personally, as a listener, I wasn't too bothered by it.
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Paul missed on the McVeigh comment that Newt jumped on. During that time, Paul was facing attacks on two fronts - over his opposition to the Patriot Act and opposition to the assassination of Awlaki, a US citizen.
I think Paul just got confused a little bit. The McVeigh point is very relevant to the Awlaki case. But it was the wrong thing to say regarding the Patriot Act, and Newt jumped on it. That was the one time this entire debate cycle where Ron tripped up.
If you were going to say that the Patriot Act has not prevented attacks, you could point to the Fort Hood shooter and the NYC attempted bombing. If the Patriot Act was so effective, it should have stopped those.
It would be just as likely that Carol Paul is some kinda plant...meaning not likely at all.
Wead's doing his job and meanderings like this post are without merit.
It's simply not right to slander someone without an ounce of proof.
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Hea, I guess thats what the community thinks. He's no shill. That's cool with me. Adam must be wrong, and he frequently is.
Keep in mind though Carol Paul (and Adam Curry) were never paid by the Bush family.
Maybe I should edit the post to read "Adam Curry is a horrible horrible person for ever suggesting Doug was anything other than awesome."
Done. I've also marked all my comments down. Go group think yay!
All I have heard in EVERY one of Doug's interviews, is an EXCELLENT capture and relation of Ron Paul's platform.
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Yeah your right, Adam is a Paul hater.
Here is proof. Look at what he says about Paul right here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9WMdFhRAQM
Lets all attack him. Eh?
Wead has been a very articulate spokesperson for Ron Paul's campaign.
Has proven himself time and again. As far as his Bush history, he broke ties with the Bush family because of their military adventurism and big government approach.
We got lucky in getting him on board. Hell, he delivers RP's message better than RP in most cases.
And quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing about a "mole". People screamed the same thing in 2008. In 2008, the campaign struggled a lot. I think Doug Wead has had a lot to do with the improvement this time around.
someone explain to this religious behavior in taking whatever he says seriously?
all the good work doug has done, poof, one word, all dispelled. who is this almighty figure you are all worshiping?
if you conspiracists all had your way about suspecting and attacking people, you would be a much greater repellent force than the 3% beltway libertarian that hasn't accomplished anything for years attacking allies.. i'm glad we had lots of different new blood on the grounds in east coast.
Read my first sentence in the OP.
but i have no interest what his 'job' is. i am asking his place in the movement. is he a tom woods equivalent? i suspect not. another ventura perhaps?
lol, not worried about it. All posts of any kind of negative content at all get rated down now days.
Place in the movement I don't know but Curry and Devorak are probably better known than Tom Woods. Devorak does TWiT (This Week in Tech) and the podcast prob has close to a million listeners. Woods is a published author and speaker. It's hard to say.. depends on your circle.
What does it matter where the ideas come from. I think most people are saying they trust and like Doug. I pretty much agree with them.
in the Internet broadcasting community. I've been a TWIT listener for years.
Different people come to Ron Paul and his honest message of peace and liberty from different areas. That gives them different perspectives.
I welcome Curry, Dvorak, Alex Jones and others who find something to like in Ron Paul, though I hope it leads them all to his Austrian economic analysis of how and why humans act, how the world works. Not that the Austrians, via the Mises Institute www.mises.org have all the answers, but I believe they offer the best resources available in the quest for to achieve liberty.
No no no.. don't be defending Adam here. Thats no good.
It ran well over an hour and they talked up Ron Paul a lot during it.
The simply speculated about Doug Mead for a little of that. I thought their ideas on that were dubious... so be it, maybe they're wrong on some part of their analysis. Trying to boot them into the anti-Paul camp seems like group think to me.
A bit like the Vegan society snubbing their noses at a former member who had the audacity to harvest his broccoli with a scythe that had a leather hand grip.
No I only heard the someone said something bad about Doug. That's enough information for me to make a decision about someone.
should you not take equal time to properly assess?
Newt's a great debater, so he didn't necessarily have prior knowledge to respond. Newt also knew he could count on the politically biased an morally corrupt moderators to prevent Ron Paul from rebutting Newt's attack.
He could have brought up two of his normal points:
1) If you listen to why people attack, you will learn a lot. McVeigh was retaliating against the Federal Governments unconstitutional use of force against the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas.
2) You cannot eliminate violence in a free society. However a fair and swift system of justice will act as a deterrent to would-be criminals.
Both of these points can be used both for domestic as well as international policy.
"Would you send your sons and daughters to die for nation building?"
"Would you be willing to go further into debt to China for this?"
if we have people who are essentially allies, and we have disagreements between loose allies, whenever one issues an unthoughtful comment about another, the rest of us need to politely bring people back to the fold with the message that "we're not all going to agree on everything, but there's only really two things we're fighting for ...our liberty, and our wallets"
which translates into a bunch of other stuff, like no pre-emptive, un-funded, unconstitutional wars.
no SOPA, NDAA, Patriot Act, etc.
no deficits, and debt at no more than 10% of GDP.
When he's doing interviews, he is well versed in their tactics and gotcha's. When you watch him get that big grin on TV, you know he's already a step ahead of the talking heads. He's quick, he's smart and he definately knows the inside track. It's good for the campaign to have a person on board they have with Doug Wead.
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