VOTE UP! Can we count our own votes?

Once at the poll and secondly with the RP organization. The second vote could be online or on a hardcopy form. Name, phone number (or contact info), signature ( to certify against fraud or perjury) is all thats needed. That way we could followup if there is suspected fraud. No need for SS info.

Make it easy for RP voters to register. They could vote either before, during or after the voting booth. Make it easy to participate.

This is all for our benefit in case we have to legally fight to make sure our vote counts. It's purely for our records and liberty.

Maybe there could be a website people register with after voting? I dunno...

We just need to do SOMETHING!

Whether you vote for Doctor Paul of not, voter fraud hurts our country in so many ways

When we used to go to a polling place to vote, at peak hours the lines were long and the sidewalks outside were sometimes packed with people coming and going. And when people were leaving they were often in a big hurry to get to work in the morning, or to get home for dinner in the evening.

(1) It would be hard to count the people on video tape. They don't go through single file, there are people coming and going at the same time, people who turn around and go back because they see someone from the neighborhood they want to chat with in line, etc. If you've got a video tape of that swirling crowd at the peak times, how do you get an accurate count of voters?

(2) What percentage of people do you expect to get to videotape their vote on a cell phone? Or give up enough personal identification info (and time) that they could be tracked down later if necessary? Counting only helps if you can get more people able to PROVE they voted for Ron Paul than the number of votes reported for Ron Paul.

At our polling place there was always a need for volunteers. Volunteers wouldn't be able to videotape people voting, of course, but at least you could be right there in the polling place keeping your eyes open for irregularities. You could perhaps check the counters on the voting machines at various points during the day. If there were enough people coordinating, you could count people as they vote. You could try to have enough Ron Paul supporters working there that you could periodically check the voter lists to see how many people had signed in.

Longer term, in some places it's up to each locality to decide how to count votes. In New Hampshire, it's supposed to be decided in town meetings. Hand counted paper ballots is an option, but getting that option in place would require getting people into those town meetings and active in the process. That would be a long-term effort but one with tangible positive effects.

I'd love to see a count, but it should be done in a way that can be effective and practical or else Ron Paul supporters are just having their efforts diverted to something that doesn't help Ron Paul. A partial and unverified count wouldn't prove anything to anyone.

First, as common as phone cameras seem to be, there are way too many folks who don't have them. I don't see why we need photo proof in the booth if we have signatures outside the polls. Here's my idea for how to get numbers for all the votes, so an accurate comparison can be made. First, DON'T put up a Ron Paul sign over it. Use a table large enough to contain a list for each candidate. The sign should say, "Help verify the Diebold machines" or something about getting rid of them. Then, have a sheet for each candidate where they list the number on the little receipt they give you when you use those machines. A signature can be optional but they can list a password or something to match to the number. Some people highly prize their anonymity. Every voter may secretly have concerns for their own candidate's votes. If they want to be able to vouch for their guy, later, they can give their password to see if it's on the right list. I don't know, I guess it needs tweaking but it's a start.

Coordinate this idea with the campaign, add information to the super brochures that:

1.) There will be two people at every voting station to count only Ron Paul votes.

2.) They will have an 8' x 3' sign that says "RON PAUL VOTE COUNT HERE."

3.) As a Ron Paul voter you will have to prove you voted for Ron Paul, you may use a digital camera, or Cell Phone to take a picture of your registered vote with RON PAUL selected and your name visible.

4.) You will then walk to the booth/Table under the sign, show your proof of vote to one of the two volunteers. You will also hand them any kind of ID confirming your face, name to go with your digital image of your vote.

5.) On confirmation of vote from the volunteer, they will hand you a clip board where you will PRINT YOUR NAME, sign your name and tick the Box that is numbered.

All forms will be in list form and have numbers already indicated for each person to simplify the count. Maybe each sheet could have three columns to fit as many names on as possible and be done on both sides to reduce the amount of paper needed.

To participate in this you must use a digital camera, or cell phone with picture taking ability, or ipod, or ipad, whatever you can buy or borrow for visual confirmation of your vote.

On existing the voting location look for the volunteers and sign. That's how I think it could be done. There may be a better simpler way, all I know it that it has to be done.

A group of us are going to be at the polling place here in Hawaii on March 13 the entire time. We hope to attract Ron Paul supporters over to get an unofficial count. We'll be comparing this number to the official one.

We're hoping our mere presence might deter dishonesty at such a small precinct.

If we can video tape, we will, but this is new to us so we’re not sure what we’ll have access to.

I’m not sure what else we can do to ensure fraud doesn't occur, but we are wide open to suggestions.

of total count at each precinct in each county in each state to be uploaded to 2 websites.

Organize locally for your state now!