You might be a Neocon if you...
Submitted by Civics101 on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 20:28I took some aggression out on the keyboard today. Please add to this list with your comments. I plan on passing the list out at the High school I work at. Some of my colleagues haven't come around yet. Don't worry, most who aren't apathetic have.
Neocon (New Conservative): a modern form of Republicanism that has developed over the last 30 years which is not from the classic Jeffersonian school of thought and contrary to historical party beliefs.
You might be a Neocon if you.....
Believe the government cannot run medical facilities but can rebuild foreign nations
Mock the idea of a gold standard as archaic yet think buying gold is a smart investment
Think cavemen in Afghanistan must be met with trillions in “defense spending”
Consider Iran to be the first country in world history that wants to commit suicide
Support domestic cuts yet increases in foreign expenditures
Don’t know corporations get more welfare than poor minorities
Recognize Americas current troubles but still support establishment candidates
Know who Hannity, Rush, Levin, and Savage are but never heard of Hyak
Are ok with telling your daughter only government employees can touch her no no spot
Tell people Fox “News” is “Fair and Balanced” with a straight face
Assume “Contractors” in occupied countries are simply plumbers and electricians
Think new oil pipelines would bring gas prices down as the FED prints more money
Asked yourself what the FED was when reading the line above
Hate welfare but don’t think twice about farm subsidies
Feel terrorism is a greater threat to your life than regularly eating cheeseburgers
You are staunchly pro-life but distain food stamps for when the kiddies get here
Argue the only way to protect our freedoms is to give some of them up
Quote Fox “News” like scripture but boo the “Golden Rule” in GOP debates
Cheer politicians who appeal to you emotionally but make little sense logically
Believe drone bombing anywhere anytime is just but medical marijuana isn’t
Heart the war on drugs but get pissed when violent criminals are released early
Support the 10th Amendment but want the Federal Govt. involved in marriage
Cheerlead continual war as the only way to have peace and prosperity
Think Wall-Street financiers are justly compensated and teachers are socialist crybabies
You are 60+, watch only FOX “News” and call yourself Republican
Vote based on “Family Values” yet entertain the idea of supporting Newt
Liked Bush’s policies but think Obama’s are evil even though they are identical
Anoint Reagan as a true conservative but don’t know who Barry Goldwater was
See no problem with borrowing money from China to help defend against China
Need to be told at least twice an hour America is the most awesomest country ever
Believe politicians who want to increase “defense” spending will balance the budget
Quoting the CIA and the 9/11 commission on blowback is blaming America for 9/11
Took deferments when young but want to send others to war now
Parrot the logic that the ’67 borders are indefensible even though they have 300 nukes
Never heard of Mossadegh but can name three or more pundits on Fox “News”
Have used the adjective crazy to describe Ron Paul and/or Ralph Nader
Still believe the same people who urge intervention in Iran as they did Iraq
Change candidates like you do underwear
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Hyak
Hayek not hyak.
Ryan Scott -South East Michigan-
1 week with my father in law...
Stereotypical neo-con. I agree with everything on this this list, I just simply said to myself, "What would my father in law say..."
The only one that could be striken from the list...
"See no problem with borrowing money from China to help defend against China"
He's got a problem with China.
Seriously, I've tried to get to the bottom of it. He is 65, and actually says "I'm a Fox News junkie". He likes the blondes on Fox, he loves O'Reilly. (I had a little too much bourbon and started yelling at the TV a bit when Billy O was promoting his book, that was a little awkward).
Get this, he is a retired public school teacher, union member, successful applicant for a federal grant to pay the last 10 years of his mentoring job, and collects SSI. The best part is, he is a neo-con. He thinks unions are wasteful and federal domestic subsidies are too high. The list could continue, but I digress.
But after 1 week, I really think it's just laziness. As much as I threw at him, from facts, to insinuation, to logic, he's so predictable, no matter where it went, and since we've talked politics before, he always goes back to opinions he formed years ago. The same old arguments. He says he is going to look into the Fed, I'll send him links, articles etc. Never reads them. He's retired for G**& sake, what the hell does he do all day! Oh yeah... Fox News.
Sounds Like
My dad and Mother-in-law.
skippy
You might be Neocon if
You're pissed over this thread.
:)
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.
If you support Rubio over Rand you are a NEOCON.
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A great Mises article on the Neocons ...
... is at:
http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=376
A few notable quotes:
"Although neoconservatives have indeed challenged certain aspects of the welfare state, they have no quarrel with it in principle."
"They have a very definite sense of the proper conduct that the state ... the leaders of the state have as one of their prime duties the development of the citizens' characters ... the government must inculcate patriotic sentiment among the people."
"More generally, neoconservatives do not believe in individual rights at all..."
"Thus the great political lesson that the neocons have successfully taught other conservatives ... is to stop worrying and love the State"
"... neoconservatives oppose fixed principles of politics.
"[Leo] Strauss rejected capitalism and individualism ..."
"... the neocons resolutely reject fixed moral rules and rights."
The article is a good read to understand the mindset of the neocons, and why they are anti-liberty.
The key point to remember is this: Neocons LOVE and WORSHIP Big Government, just as much as the radical leftists do ... and THIS is the reason Republican voters cannot figure what happened to the Republican Party. The neocons are what happened to it. It's very simple when you understand what neocons are.
You might be a neocon if you
You might be a neocon if you are involved in politics for the power trip and appointed positions.
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. - Matthew 10:16
If you've ever said...
“I like Ron Paul except for his foreign policy”, you might be a neocon.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift
You might be an idiot if you
You might be an idiot if you want to stop funding welfare queens at home, yet attack people who want to stop funding welfare queens abroad.
Why does Alex Jones insert a "submit to fear" subliminal message in his movies?
LOL
I see that hit too close to home for some. :)
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.
Either that or something was
Either that or something was lost in translation.
Why does Alex Jones insert a "submit to fear" subliminal message in his movies?
I want to stop funding both.
I want to stop funding both. I'm not a liberal.
That's exactly what it means.
That's exactly what it means. Its hypocritical to attack welfarism at home, yet attack people who want to discontinue it abroad.
Why does Alex Jones insert a "submit to fear" subliminal message in his movies?
Sorry - I'm going to disagree
What you are describing is the run of the mill, standard Republican voter. You are describing the morons I had to sit near during my State Convention who didn't even know what the FED was.
Those people don't have the slightest clue who the Neocons are.
You could retitle: "You know you are a Rebublican Zombie if..."
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain
I will go back and read, but your definition is wrong.
"Neoconservative" does not mean "New Conservative". That would just be an updating of the basic principles.
It acually means "Faux" or "Imitation" Conservative. In terms of linguistics, if you put 'neoclassic' columns on a building, they are not a 'new' classic. They are faux-classic. It is a common misconception. It started out as an inside joke with the communists like Bill Kristol and the Chicago School loonies.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain
You're wrong Mohusk.
Neo means New.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=neo-
Patriot Cell #345,168
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.
NeoConservative
You mean you really don't know what is meant by calling a person a "neoconservative"? You must be from England or something, just kidding, but come on dude? Get real on this. Did you not read the post?
I'm not going to argue this most base political understanding
everyone in the freaking US whether they follow politics or not knows what a "neoconservative" is AND I just gave the etymology of the prefix "neo" so don't be a moron.
Edit: Never mind.. I see.. This is a sockpuppet account that you're using. Is that you Mohusk? lol
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.
Sock puppet?
Guess I'm ill literate too (besides being a moron) you are impressive though. thanks for the wonderful wisdom.
The people over at Ron Paul
The people over at Ron Paul forums said this place was a liberal hell hole. Judging from this post they might be right.
"The people over at Ron Paul forums said
The people over at Ron Paul forums said this place was a liberal hell hole."
Really? Maybe I should go hang out over there. Maybe I'll finally find some peace!
"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul
So you might be a neocon if
So you might be a neocon if you don't support dead babies and food stamps?
So Ron Paul is a neocon????
Really?? At least 5 things you named I have heard from Ron Pauls own mouth...
"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." - Andrew Jackson
Go on, name them
...
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an
OK, not exactly RP's words, but some of them are!
Recognize Americas current troubles but still support establishment candidates, You are staunchly pro-life but distain food stamps for when the kiddies get here, Think Wall-Street financiers are justly compensated and teachers are socialist crybabies, Quoting the CIA and the 9/11 commission on blowback is blaming America for 9/11 Change candidates like you do underwear
"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." - Andrew Jackson
"Ok, not exactly RP's words, but some of them are."
I assume that you mean that "it isn't RP's exact words but some of them are his positions."
The only one that I see that might describe RP's position is "You are staunchly pro-life but distain food stamps for when the kiddies get here", which is my position as well as I oppose any kind of government social programs in principle and advocate self-ownership and self responsibility. To say the other things you quoted are RP's position is stretching reality.
Also, are you saying RP blames America for 9/11 when he quotes blowback because if you do then you're being absurd and would fit in the "neocon" category...
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an
FYI: Ron Paul sayd 9/11 was blowback. Guess he's a neocon huh???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD7dnFDdwu0
"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." - Andrew Jackson
Of course
Ron Paul said that 9/11 is blowback DUH!
The neocon position is exactly what the OP said (paraphrasing): "Neocons thinks that Ron Paul blames America for 9/11 because he said that blowback was the reason it happened."
I seriously think you're confused... are you making the neocon to libertarian transition, is that what the confusion is about?
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an
Ron Paul does blame America for 9/11
Our Government's actions have consequences. Not to justify the attacks, but place some blame on out own actions as well as Al Queda, the terrorist organization led by a supposed CIA defector.
Ron Paul also warned of 9/11 before it happened http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCrIbTmitk
What the hell are you two talking about? The OP is calling Ron Paul a neocon and is attempting to divide the movement by slandering Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and the good Libertarians working to change the Republican party.
"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." - Andrew Jackson
You are misunderstanding the thread
I corrected your misconception here: http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2951425
You're making something out of absolutely nothing.