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NO MORE BLIMP!! WE NEED MORE TV AD FOR CONVENTIONAL CAMPAIGN
Submitted by xilin1976 on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 12:21
Be honest with you. Blimp has limited impact for people who rather sit before TV than go outside to watch blimp. More efficient way is to having more Jeremiah Black's TV ad. » |
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bump
ground the blimp. do a money bomb instead get some better ads and a speaking caoch for the Dr. and we're good to go...
liberty for all
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-----------------DO YOU REALLY WANT RON TO WIN------------------
Ron needs more than just money. Send this strategy to mail@ronpaul2008.com and also to press@ronpaul2008.com if these ideas make sense to you
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Blimp & Conventional Campaign
I am ardent RP supporter, but after reading a lot of comments here and on YouTube, I came to conclusion that most of the RP supporters while smart and internet savvy are naive and inexperienced. There is great divide between you and common folks who base their decision on spoon fed information from mass media. This media is dependent on profits from corporations placing the advertisements and therefore it will never support somebody like RP. On the contrary, it will try to diminish him (loon & nuts), present his statements out context, lie, use deceptive questioning (aka You said dr Paul that you are against the civil war?)
We need somehow get Dr. Paul message to the masses. Blimp is good for name recognition, but other wise limited. We need to talk to own parents friends, schoolmates, folks on street and explain Dr.Paul position on issues. Please point to Issues TAB on RonPaul2008 to people with computers.
We are guys working against entrenched political machines!
I hope that New Hampshire will help because it is libertarian state, but even if it will, it will be an immense uphill battle.
Blimp
I have been one of the most vocal advocates here for the RP Blimp. I am now making an adjustment to that. I am finally disappointed in the performance of the folks in charge.
It looks to me that they are just using this thing flying down around in circles in Florida as their thrill ride party barge. They give weather as a concern? Then keep the damn thing out of the weather, but get it out and about the lower states! Yes it's getting some good press in the mid Florida area, but this is not what it was funded for! How many times can a local paper be expected to report on it? At this point people probably think it's a Disney promotion.
They post minimal info, minimal pics, minimal video and I have yet to see the streaming video. I have sent numerous emails with my concerns and get no responses at all. I have NOT seen anymore major media coverage either. THey are failing at their promised mission.
It really bums me out to post this, but it's time to be realistic and call it for what it is!
Thanks for reading my rant.
Weather
Yes, the weather is a valid reason, not just an excuse. The reason the blimp is flying in the southern States is because they have MILDER WEATHER in December and January - DUH.
It will be more help during January in States like South Carolina than it was for Iowa or NH. Now would be the WORST time to deflate the blimp. We'll have spent all that money when it was less effective and cut the line just when it will become effective. We need it at least through this month heading to super Tuesday in early February.
And it has still had some good effect. It made the news and helped get Ron Paul's name out. He's only got a 51% name recognition compared to 85-90% for the other main candidates. His 10% in Iowa would translate to 18% on that one factor alone - if he had similar name recognition.
I AGREE AGREE AGREE!!!!
We need to INFORM NOW.. not just put a name in someones head..
WE NEED TO TELL FOLKS WHY THEY WANT RON PAUL AS PRESIDENT... WHY WHAT THEY HAVE "HEARD" ABOUT HIM IS BULL CRAP!!
We are WAY PAST needing a blimp with a name on it...
sorry.. but it is CRUNCH TIME NOW!!
How about expanding the Blimp's impact?
Combinations: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/20798
I completely disagree.
We need all of it. The blimp, the ads, everything.
I don't watch TV much, but I saw some the day before the Iowa caucus. It was nonstop promotion of all candidates BUT Ron Paul.
I just spoke today with a person who thought maybe Huckabee was good, because he would end the IRS. No kidding. He had heard the name Ron Paul, barely, but didn't know anything about him. He is 70+.
There are many more who have never even heard the name Ron Paul.
THAT's why you need both. The blimp to raise name recognition -- and it is a very cheap way to do that -- and more ads to introduce people to Ron Paul and what he stands for. And you need to target OLDER PEOPLE.
Mostly, though -- we need one on one, NONSTOP canvassing. There is very little time, and TV drones on and on with all the wrong messages -- it is those messages people are hearing ...
Blimp has contribute minimum to early vote states
Ron Paul needs more exposure at early state like Wyoming, NH now. Blimp is not there at all.
Ron Paul, the Thomas Jefferson in 21st century
But it is in Florida
The plan I've heard is to be at the NFC playoff game Sunday. My wife just called, and she just drove under it in downtown Tampa.
OPERATION BROADCAST FREEDOM
C'mon people donate to operationbroadcastfreedom.com (top banner on this page) and CHIP IN, they need the money to air their brilliant Ads.
If you think Jeremiah Blacks Ads were great then its time to act on that, donate they accept PayPal, I had no problems.
I sincerely think this is the best way to spend my hardearned to GET THE MESSAGE OUT.
Please, please just CHIP IN a few dollars.
Thanks in advance.
J. Black Ads...
I like the Black ads except for the part about "Restore the Republic". It sounds very old world and very fringe.
Why not "Hope for Change" or "Restore America" or something more mainstream?
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A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. - Ben Franklin
agreed..deflate the blimp...
agreed..deflate the blimp...
http://www.lp.org/
http://mises.org/
Blimp vs. tv ads
I agree that tv ads will be more important given the choice between the two. If we can do both, all the better. I would like to see the blimp around until Super Tuesday where it will have less value after that time.
Please, please, please, people, let's get more tv ads funded. It is critical as our older citizens aren't using the internet enough. These people have substantial voting numbers, and without substantial tv ads, it will be all over. They will not hear Ron's message. We absolutely do need "older people" ads as Mr. Black already knows. I would like to see a 4 to 1 ratio of these type of ads vs. others. I hope the official campaign will get these going immediately too. If they do not, the blame for the election loss will be squarely on their shoulders.
Bob W., Naples, FL
Spend your money how you like
and let the rest of us do the same.
Agree too!
HQ hopefully will see that Jeremiah's ads are truly creative, professional and are hitting a nerve with those that watch them, especially the lesser of 2 evils one.
Please RP HQ start spending some of the cash on national infomercials and Jeremiah ads.
Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog
TV and Radio Campaigns
yes, the campaign needs far better tv and radio ads. i dont agree with mr. blacks. perhaps they can be used in early weeks to build name recognition, but they are not effective in building new supporters. liberty, freedom and the constitution which we all love does not click with the average voter when it comes time to vote.
i may get some hate mail..lol...but i think fred thompson has the best tv ads among the republicans. goto youtube and watch them. i work in print(newspaper) advertising from a agency in nyc and ive shown ads from different candidates to our research teams here and all agree thompson nails it. there short to the point, one can understand the issue and how he stands on it. and they have excellent production quality. period. a successful campaign works around the power of three. three mediums addressed. print, tv/radio, outdoor(billboards) and of course canvassing.
a customer(voter) needs to be hit with three mediums of marketing at least three separate occasions for it to induce a response.
we can not educate the voters, takes too much time and gets low results. we need to hit them emotionally. i can discuss tatics for ever, crux of the matter, the campaign needs to hire a professional agency to produce their advertising. all the other candidates are doing it..time to spend some of that money.
Send your resume to HQ--or Jeremiah Black
We NEED talent like yours. Our disappointing showing in Iowa was not entirely the fault of the opposition; we made some mistakes ourselves. The volunteers and grassroots were fantastically dedicated and self-sacrificing, but our advertising and official campaign strategy and tactics needed some professional help. We need BOTH the army of ants (the grassroots and volunteers) and the heavy artillery (the official campaign) if we're going to win this thing---if either falls down on the job...
salt-of-the-earth
i like what you wrote
By the votes in Iowa, Americans have said they want change.
This would include adverstising too. The Paul campaign is known for the revolution, this should be a theme all throughout his advertising.
I hope Ron Paul and the campaign will seek out creative advertisers that will nail it when it comes to the message of the constitution.
Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog
Blimp
I fully expected the blimp to be in New Hampshire and at the Tea Party and that's why I contributed. Weather should have been considered more completely. I've moved on to other ideas.
I AGREE 200%
Except that Black needs to make ads that have more appeal to an older generation. The internet is very effective with the younger gen (18-55). We need ads that appeal to an older group. Blacks ads are all younger gen.
But I agree the blimp says virtually nothing, it just floats around. Good for name recognition, but we are getting beyond name recognition now. We need ads, and not neccassarily ads that appeal to US. Ads that appeal to the ones we've not yet targeted/need to target more.
Now which one says more, which one will more likely GET VOTES of the ones not yet targeted:
#1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWes9BP5va8&eurl=http://www.r...
#2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKyEpGSjz7w
(understand, I'm not asking which one is more fun, but which one will GET VOTES)
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
older gen. ads
I'm working on an ad to appeal to older voters now. Hopefully, we'll get the funds to make it happen.
www.operationbroadcastfreedom.com
thanks,
- jeremiah black
The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt
my beef
My mind associates ronald regan with Iran Contra so, when I watch your commercials, I feel that they're targeting a subset of folks who aren't like myself and believe that regan wasn't selling cocaine to our kids via the CIA to fund his wars. to me, regan betrayed the country by going after OUR kids simply because he wanted to pluck dollar bills out of their pockets to make even more people miserable.
;)
;)
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
It is not your money
Spend your money how you want, but don't tell others how to spend theirs.
Kent
I'm supporting the Blimp thank you very much.
and it is not your money! I would love for people on this forum who support Ron Paul to also support his philosophy of honoring the individual.
I would like to ask these people who would tell us not to support anything but the campaign - who are you and why do you support Ron Paul if you don't support this most fundamental philosophy of individualism, and owning ourselves and our thoughts and our money.
I've donated to the blimp
but won't kick in for tv ads. Media ads are too timid and conventional.
Now if RP would come out with an ad that went "I'm Ron Paul, ---The people at FoxNews don't want you to know that I am against the Iraq War. They don't want you to know what a disaster the Iraq War is. That's why they are excluding me from their debate etc. etc. then that would be different.
Famous Quote from Justice William O. Douglas
"The Constitution is not neutral.
It was designed to take the government
off the backs of people."
Famous Quote from Justice William O. Douglas
"The Constitution is not neutral.
It was designed to take the government
off the backs of people."
it all depends
if we can keep tapping the base of supporters, there's money for everything.
I don't watch TV or have a phone and I know, increasingly, I'm not alone. My parents just gave up TV and I think that the WGA strike is symptomatic of the "reported drop" in TV viewership. i.e. as the population ages, "they've seen it all" and will seek other forms of entertainment.
I wouldn't knock our ability to come up with "creative solutions" that are better than that status quo.
The most obvious one, which I'm going to start doing, is dropping literature around my neighborhood.
How old are you?
I don't watch TV either, I'm 45. I have been watching TV lately though, the news. Normally I don't watch, but I surf the internet quite a bit. Should we advertise the internet? Do we NEED to advertise on the internet. To me this is the big question. What groups do we ALREADY reach, what groups do we STILL NEED to reach. In my opinion, we NEED to reach the older generations. The ones whom don't "Google Ron Paul". The one whom still watch TV as opposed to use the internet.
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence
I'm 35
and you ask really great questions! I think that the "grand strategy" was getting independents to support paul;
BTW: I think the ball is in Ron Paul's court
I sort of stepped back from worrying about the money aspect since I see the ball in Ron Paul's court and he has to hit it back.
i.e. I worked on Dennis Kucinich's campaign and he had people's energy and, at least compared to 2008, money to work with. But he struggled to mobilize and manage those resources.
Thus, at this point, my eyes are focused on the official campaign for direction but I know that the basics are obvious: voter turnout, voter turnout and voter turnout.
I'm hoping that, through the campaign, we all resonate together!