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Chris Hedges Sues Obama Admin Over Indefinite Detention of U.S. Citizens Approved in NDAA

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Chris Hedges has filed suit against President Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to challenge the legality of the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes controversial provisions authorizing the military to jail anyone it considers a terrorism suspect anywhere in the world, without charge or trial.


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So hmm, let's get government

So hmm, let's get government judges to preside over a case against the government. Smoething tells me this will be a long hard uphill battle that will go nowhere.

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"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

I really, really hope

I really, really hope something happens with this. We NEED the NDAA repealed.

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My knowledge of the law is

My knowledge of the law is elementary at best. What are the chances this law gets overturned via the court system?

It's all about the Judges,

It's all about the Judges, Judges are supposed to adhere to the Constitution of the United States. Problem is some Judges don't care about the Constitution or take it seriously which there not supposed to do.


The judges fall on the side of "National Security". Just think about every 1st Amendment case the Supreme Court has shot down where journalists are involved in protecting sources and whistleblowers.

However, the Supreme Court did rule on January 23, 2012 in Jones vs. U.S. that in order for the FBI to put a tracking device on your car, they did have to obtain a search warrant! So who knows, maybe there is some hope!


Silence Dogood IX

Some of you might want this. It's a pretty accurate transcript.

Chris Hedges about NDAA

"The security establishment came out against it. The CIA, the FBI, the Attorney General, the Director of National Intelligence. None of them wanted it. President Obama said he was going to veto it. But we now know from leaks out of Levin's office that that's because the executive branch wanted to decide. They wanted the power to decide who would be tried, who would be granted exemptions, it wasn't actually about the assault against due process. And I think we have to ask; If the security establishment did not want this bill, and the FBI Director Muller actually goes to Congress and says publicly they don't want it, why did it pass? What pushed it through? And I think without question, the corporate elites understand that things, certainly economically, are about to get much worse, I think they are worried about the occupy movement expanding, and, I think that in the end, and this is supposition, they don't, they don't trust the police to protect them and they want to be able to call in the army. And if this bill goes into law, and it's slated to go into law in March, they will, be able to do that."

Liberty is bigger than right / left!

Romney is Obama. They will both read the teleprompters for the elite. Even the neocons cant be so foolish as to keep pushing Romney?

if it doesnt hold water

If it isnt constitutional it isnt a law the constitution is the law and a law that is created against the constitution can not be law no mater what they say, they could say the grass is blue and the sky is geen, but it doesnt make it true.

You think you can be

You think you can be convinced to vote for mitt? Santorum, or Gingrich? Nah.

Love me some chris hedges.

Love me some chris hedges. Him along with Kucinich and Sanders, even greenwald,
We can disagree on some social issues, but for the most part these guys get it.

Wow Mitt...


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I'll take a liberal with balls

over a neo-con any day. I just won't let them control what I can do with my money.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

we need to reach out more to OWS for common ground

I want to make clear that I am very much a libertarian and practicing capitalist. I've been to OWS NY to talk to these folks and I think we share common ground with the real leadership of OWS on, at least, rule of law, civil liberty, and Federal Reserve/bankster issues. Getting "fictitious entity" money out of politics is probably #1 on their agenda and I think most of us could stand behind that, yes?

Bill of Rights /Amendment X: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Do you need a politician or judge to "interpret" those 28

We tried.

I was there with Blase (posted right below me). We showed up thinking we'd form a friendly bond based on common ground. We were smiling and happy to meet them. They in turn were aggressive and angry and asked us to leave. They wanted nothing to do with us or Dr. Paul and said, "We know all about Ron Paul" implying he was just another corrupt politician. I said we were aligned with the sentiments on their signs and hoped for a peaceful coming together, but they remained hostile and insistent that they weren't political. I told them that was fine...we'd leave, but in parting asked them who was going to take their ideas forward to Washington. They were quiet for a split second and then continued to voice that they didn't want to be affiliated with Ron Paul. We left not wanting to be around their negativity and ended up in a prime location up the street with immensely enthusiastic support from people driving by.

I think there might be something to what "lies" is saying.

We planned to sign wave for Ron Paul today alongside

OWS - only 4 of them - they were furious, as if they owned the public turf on which they were standing. We tried to explain Ron Paul was in their interest. Angry, loathing and no rational thinking, they objected. The OWS insisted they were non-political. They have no argument. There is no coherent philosophy. Multiple attempts to explain the COMMON GROUND were not heard. THEY WANTED THE GROUND TO THEMSELVES. We moved down the road away from the hostility. We could easily have insisted, BUT as one of our group said, "I don't want to sign wave with that negative energy" alongside us. We actually moved to a much better location in front of Cherry Trees in full blossom, positioned much better for passing cars, pedestrians, and at least one jogger to see us. Our first sign waving for Ron Paul on the Big Island of Hawaii. 11 of us, plus my Jack Russel. I anticipate more and more of us as we make the sign waving a regular event. We had great positive energy, and lots of cars honking and waving support. Our GROUND IS SOLID, if somebody in OWS figures out Ron Paul is their only choice, they can come and join us.

exactly what is going on at occupy everywhere vs Occupy NY

Is basically this, it's run by Adbusters


On another note, in NY there is SUBSTAINTIAL blowback. "Anons" did show up early on and were arrested on the bridge early on. At that time Adbusers tried to leverage this to start up Occupy everywhere, which they control using a bizarre power structure consisting of recruiters, enforcers and directors.

I am currently using my same ol same ol tactics (wait for the guys to lose their g/fs to it, jealousy is a great motivator) and some hilarious new ones for infiltration of one to defame it's Adbusters leaders to see if this causes a libertarian shift via blowback.

Bear in mind those that have camped for longer or been longer have been exposed to significant brainwashing.


I've seen vids of some of them and they are open to talking. Well, some, anyway.

I just wonder how much of OWS wasn't a trial run for what obama has planned.

I would think a bunch of liberals would be upset about NDAA.


No standing

Case closed.

Leges sine moribus vanae

Exactly my view of things

corporate elites are afraid the police alone will not be able to protect them during times of economic uncertainty and they want to be able to call in the army...

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for a good video

awsome post

awsome post