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Rand Paul Detained by TSA in Nashville

Rand Paul's Facebook account just posted that Senator Rand Paul was detained by the TSA in Nashville with more information coming when available.

Anyone else heard anything about this?

Update from Politico: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71818.html

Update from ABC (with video): http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/rand-paul-in-pa...

Slate: Detention Unconstitutional: http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/01/23/don_t_touch_ran...

White House Sides with TSA:
http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/tsa/205813-wh...

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meh at least the apple falls in the same orchard

I kind of feel sorry for the guy. Its like that whole fantasizing about Julian Lennon being John's replacement for a Beatles reunion fetish. If I was one of his constituents, my vote would not be a foregone conclusion. I would review his performance at every election before getting behind him- as would his own father. atm I like him. As for this TSA thing, im not too bothered. Just news of his grope refusal has caused about 40% negative opinions in comment sections. A balls out effort would turn-off even more people-which would spatter onto his dad. Alot of people think they are the same person : )

What kind of Nazi FOOL would negative comment on that?

It's the modern day equivalent of Rosa Parks. I am PROUD as HELL to have Rand Paul as my state Senator.

Yeah I wish he would come out as strong as his father on these issues, but I accept the reality that his measured approach has a better chance of bringing about the desired result.

Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy. -Ron Paul 7/10/03

yes..

I was disappointed with the interview also WTH!!

Full Youtube of Blitzer's interview w/ Rand Paul

http://youtu.be/RXBg11JiB14

Starting from 8:10, Rand Paul clearly distanced himself from his father (8:37). WTH is going on here?!

Because Ron Paul's statement

Because Ron Paul's statement was a little overstated. He said that the TSA does NOTHING to protect us which isn't true. He should have said very little.

Detention Reveals Secret Alarm Practices!

I hope they open up tonight's debate by asking Ron Paul directly to talk about the TSA!

This one article is the best I've read... it goes deep! Help share it!

http://www.nolanchart.com/article9307-rand-pauls-police-stat...

Rand Paul's 'Police State' Showdown Reveals Secret Alarm Practices

Summary: Details on the TSA's detainment of Senator Rand Paul, a stinging rebuke by Ron Paul and the revelation of random screening alarms.

I bet they don't bring it up at all

On purpose. IT MAKES OBAMA LOOK REALLY BAD!!!!!!

Remember, Brian Williams, Mr. ObamaBot is moderating!

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat meat!

Partial youtube video of Rand Paul's interview with Blitzer

http://youtu.be/t9afpVN4ors

He totally missed the opportunity!

The problem is the TSA violating our liberties, not the glitchy screening machines. This is the problem, Rand!

This sounds like Obama saying - "Yes, with NDAA I now have the right to detain US citizen, but I promise I will never do it."

The TSA claims to be "protecting against terrorism",

yet the fact is that the TSA actually ARE the terrorists.
The TSA terrorizes and subjugates every single person that goes thru their lines, as it violates their rights and personal freedoms.

There are no words severe enough to describe my disdain and disgust at the TSA and everything/everyone associated with it.

Frame the TSA argument as grandparents and grandkids

for the debate tonight (since this is Florida).

Grandparents - when your grandkids fly to visit you, do you want them groped by some government agent?

Do you want to be groped when you fly to visit your grandkids?

Ron Paul is the only candidate who believes you are innocent until proven guilty (NDAA!).

You deserve to be treated with dignity and respect - not frisked like some common criminal.

This is such a great point

This is why the Huckster did so well. All politics are local! Personalize things !!

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Rand disappoints on Wolf Blitzer

He argues that people should have the opportunity to re-enter the possibly-cancer-causing X-ray machines rather than submit to a pat-down. Two doses of radiation instead of one!

Then he says we should have a "privatized TSA," i.e. the airport security version of Blackwater.

He also voted for sanctions on Iran, which his father has rightly called an act of war.

Rand is much better than the average senator, but that is only faint praise. His father set the bar very high. Rand falls way short of Ron. Had he not been associated with Ron in the minds of the latter's supporters, he would not have garnered so much support and attention. Somehow, I don't think the grassroots would have been fired up by Rand's watered-down "thank you, please" opposition to Leviathan.

Ron Paul is our last chance to effect positive change within the system. If he doesn't win, it's time to hunker down or get out of Dodge before it's too late.

He said he wished they had

He said he wished they had given him the option of going through the scanner again, instead of being subject to a pat down. I don't get why having this OPTION is so bad, if he prefers it to the patdown (obviously I would like to see the TSA abolished all together)?

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as much as I like rand...

he is nothing without his father's work before him

he had the chance to stand in his OWN bully pulpit as a US SENATOR against the TSA and he failed, MISERABLY, to "lead" the American people and I hope he hears me say this as I would tell him to his face

voted for sanctions on Iran?

he begins the slippery slope to mediocrity...

such promise was given him and he stumbles early, and often

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Wow. I'm so let down

I expected Rand to be a fighter for liberty like his dad but he sounded just like "I was a little inconvenienced but they should have let me just be radiated again". "I mean Blitz, you and I are both frequent flyers and they know us so they should just let us go through". I mean Blitz, you have to rush to get to your propagandist, neocon station so you shouldn't be held up"

So does this mean that my grandbaby, my elderly mother and I should have a choice of being nuked twice or sexually molested because we aren't frequent flyers???

Geez, I've been upset and sick at my stomach all day about Rand why?? For this interview? When asked about his dads Very Strong statements, what was with the chuckle??? Ron Paul's STRONG statements were 100 percent correct!!!

NO ONE will EVER satisfy me except Ron Paul to stand for our country and for us and I will hold true to him with my last breath

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Rand disappoints...

another nobody?

who speaks for the American people?

ONLY Dr. RON PAUL!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

well said

This guy always seemed wish-washy to me.
It's like he's parroting lines that he really has no emotional attachment to.
I never trusted him, fearing that he would sell-out at any moment.
And if he did indeed vote for Iran sanctions, then that's the sell-out that i was expecting (IN SPADES).

I'm searching for words

to make a comment but quite frankly I am in a total state of shock. Please tell me you made a mistake and he didn't vote for Iran sanctions.

Nevermind

You already answered the question I was going to ask below.

I agree

He shouldn’t have voted for sanctions, and people shouldn’t be subjected to government pat-downs and radiation packed screening. However if a private airline requires screening before boarding (with no government involved), that's perfectly fine. If it becomes too intrusive and/or you don't like it, don't become one of their consumers and lower their market share.

It is an enormous simplification to speak of the American mind. Every American has his own mind.

~Ludwig von Mises

Yes.

I agree that airlines should run their own security without government interference. But the "privatized TSA" Rand is talking about is still operating under government authority and rules. It's just farmed out to profit-seeking enterprises under the assumption that they'll run the grope-and-scan more "efficiently." It's just more corporatism of the worst sort.

Do you have a link to these

Do you have a link to these comments? Does he actually state this "privatized TSA" would be government-subsidized and/or have their authority, or are you drawing those conclusions yourself?

The video is now posted on the front page.

He says "private TSA" and references that it's being done already at some airports. See the link below for more information:

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2011/12/push-is-on-t...

Oh.. I see

When you said private, I thought you meant private-private, not Federal Reserve- private.

It is an enormous simplification to speak of the American mind. Every American has his own mind.

~Ludwig von Mises

Gov. Gary Johnson just tweeted

"Whew - glad TSA stopped that threat!"
"TSA=bad idea when created & still is."

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

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Gary Johnson gets all my love...

rand, still unproven and falling fast!

he has a LOT of ground to make up with me as he is now behind the 8-ball!

behind the 8-ball is just ahead of the neocons, as far as I'm concerned!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

What does huntsman tweet on this

Doesnt he owe Ron a joke too!

Watch this America!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzaLP9dTXhE
War is a Racket INFO General Smedley Butler USMC
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

Detainment

I can tell you that being "escorted by law enforcement" is detainment. The TSA claims they didn't detain him, but a law enforcement escort defines the condition. If at any time Senator Paul was in a position where if he had tried to leave he would have been stopped, that's detainment. I doubt this will make any difference as the slippery TSA will go again unscathed, and the media will refuse to report this accurately.

"Detained" also has more than one meaning.

There is the legal meaning, and, for example, "I was detained by a last-minute phone call" or being detained time-wise by a mess-up at security. Rand P may have meant the latter definition rather than detainment as soft arrest by some authority, even though, as you say, having to deal with being escorted by police would seem to satisfy a legal definition.