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Message From An Older Republican

I don't know, does my being 61 years old qualify me as "older"?
My sister is 64. My kid brother is a mere toddler at 57. It certainly plops us in the middle of a demographic that has been a hard sell for Ron Paul, the "Baby Boomers".

And if I don't qualify, how about my mother and father-in-law, both in their eighties?
Or how about my 93 year old neighbor Doris, who let me put up a 3'x4' “Ron Paul 2012” sign in here yard.

We are all Ron Paul supporters.

My mother has been a lifelong Republican, Christian evangelical, born and raised in the middle of the Bible Belt.

The folks down at the Ron Paul headquarters in Ankeny, Iowa probably remember her. She was the white-haired lady that was banging at their door one Saturday morning and wondering why no one answered. (The hours that were posted on the door were left over from the previous tenet but she didn't know that.) She came back later and scolded them for not being open on time. "It looks bad for Ron Paul. Unprofessional. People might think he's dropped out."

Mom gets angry at the mainstream media just like the rest of us. She sputters and fumes about how “They” are scared to death of Ron Paul. And she gets frustrated with her peers who can't seem to see past the propaganda.

So the question is, if Ron Paul is a candidate who only appeals to young people, why are WE the exception?

I actually had a reporter ask me that question. I laughed and said that maybe it was because I was “young at heart”. I was joking then, but now that I have had more time to think about it, I'm not so sure.

Maybe if being “young at heart” has something to do with having an open mind, I wasn't that far off. Humility is a virtue. Humility doesn't mean that you have low self esteem, that you are unsure of yourself, or are unsure of the things that you know; it simply means that you still believe that someone else might have something to teach you. But in practical terms, maybe it just means that I have never been been comfortable with any of the politically correct models of the world. I have never been satisfied with the glib explanations offered by the liberal/conservative paradigm.

I could never fully buy in to the status quo because I just had too much intellectual integrity. Like Galileo, I could not dismiss the evidence of my own eyes, no matter how much it would have simplified my life.

Unfortunately, this seems to be a common trait among Ron Paul supporters. I say unfortunately because it also seems to be a fairly UNcommon trait in the general population.

In 2007 I thought that we MIGHT be on the verge of a tidal wave, or maybe I should say, an avalanche. If there were enough people out there like myself and my family, all it would take is getting the word out about Ron Paul, and the face of American politics would be changed forever.

It did not take me long to become disillusioned.
Let’s face it. The avalanche never happened, and the low hanging fruit has long since been gathered.

Most of my peers (the older Republicans) are good people. They believe in self-reliance and personal responsibility. They aren’t looking for a handout. They are willing to work for their prosperity.

But converting them to Ron Paul will involve a lot more than waving a sign or shouting “End the Fed” at a passing car.

Let me explain.

My generation has been lied to since we first toddled off to Kindergarten. We have had propaganda pounded into our skulls for decades, and it hasn't gotten any better as we have gotten older. Every time we caught a glimpse through the matrix; IF we were ever brave enough or stupid enough to mention it, we got a cold slap in the face.

The early Boomers got to ride a demographic wave of prosperity for decades. Assuming that we kept our mouths shut, bought into the system, didn't mention the emperor’s nakedness; we were rewarded by good paying jobs. We could be managers, supervisors, and executives over the late boomers, and everyone could benefit from the incredible wealth brought on by cheap energy and exploding technology.

We were told that we were extraordinarily blessed (true) and that our prosperity had come at the expense of the majority of humanity who lived in poverty (false). Capitalism, we were told, was synonymous with greed.
Before we could be forgiven for our prosperity we must acknowledge our guilt and the debts we owed to so many others.

We owed reparations to the great grandchildren of slaves. It was OUR fault that they lived in ghettos. We OWED them the Civil Rights Act and the “War on Poverty” and “affirmative action”.

We OWED the people of Viet Nam the lives and limbs of America's young soldiers (mostly OUR lives and limbs), even if it meant forcing them into slave armies.

We OWED our elders Social Security and then Medicare. We OWED the Israelites a country of their own. We OWED the starving third world nations aid by the billions.

To pay our debts we wrote blank checks to the federal government. When that wasn't enough we let the Federal Reserve write the blank checks for us.
We were told that the national debt really didn't mean anything anyway.

We were told that the U.S. Constitution was only there to protect criminals or homosexuals or communists or atheists or women who wanted abortions.

Anyone who opposed any of this was a bigot, a Nazi, unpatriotic, or at the very least incredibly selfish and ungrateful.

And when all that we could give still wasn't enough to eliminate poverty and disease and racism from the world, we were told it was because WE had sin in our hearts.

Oh, They didn't use the word “sin”, but that was the message.
For what is “unconscious” racism or sexism or ageism if not the modern equivalent of original sin?

And now we are told that to be a good person we must also cleanse ourselves of the unrighteousness of “nationalism”, become a citizen of the world, give up our greenhouse gas-producing cars and light bulbs, give up our jobs to people in India or China or Korea or Mexico or work for less pay, fewer benefits, and longer hours.

And then 9/11 came along and gave us something else to worry about, but it also gave the demagogues an opportunity to redirect our growing anger and frustration.
They pushed all of our primal buttons.
Now any one who opposed their agenda was not just unpatriotic, but also a fool and a coward.

But the wars dragged on, the market crashed and with it our life savings and any dream of retiring.

But our joints are starting to ache and we can't remember phone numbers and names don't come to mind as quickly as they used to. And to top it all off, our company is looking to downsize or offshore or re-organize or merge.

We are older “Republicans” because we know that the only alternative stinks to high Heaven.
We are mad as hell and we don't have a clue what to do about it.
We have too many people giving us too many alternative explanations and too many “solutions”, and none of them ring very true.
But the last thing we need is for somebody to come along and tell us AGAIN how it is all OUR fault and how OBVIOUS it should have been that the people we voted for were actually evil or greedy or stupid or (worse) that WE have been evil or greedy or stupid.

See, if you want to vent your frustrations at us, go ahead,... and lose.

But if you want to “Restore America Now”, you’re going to have to practice a little empathy.
WE aren’t the enemy.
WE are the victims of the enemy.

The conspiracy has always thrived on turning us against one another; white against black, women against men, Democrat against Republican, young against old.

The conspiracy took over the media and academia before we were even out of diapers. And unless you are part of our generation, you will never know what it feels like to unlearn five decades of brainwashing. You will never know the pain of realizing that you have wasted your life destroying your own country.

So be gentle. Be kind. Be friendly.
We are on your side, we just don’t know it yet.
We don’t need to understand the Federal Reserve as much as we need to know that you CARE.

And if we can feel THAT, we will give you the time to explain all the rest.
We really DO need each other.
“We the People” always have.

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This pretty much sums it up in a nutshell!

And unless you are part of our generation, you will never know what it feels like to unlearn five decades of brainwashing. You will never know the pain of realizing that you have wasted your life destroying your own country.

It is very hard to convince yourself that you were wrong and sometimes even harder to admit it. It can take some people several years of soul searching to come to that conclusion.

Thanks for the post.

...and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2 Cor. 3:17

It is hard to admit when we are wrong but we do it.

The government NEVER admits a mistake they just keep making it worse. It would be a mistake to put Mitt, Newt, or Rick back in the government. At least two of them are to blame for the current situation and it was hard enough to get rid of them the first time.

Thank you very much for your

Thank you very much for your post. Unfortunately, unless we stop the trend, I believe the younger generations are very much on track to follow in the same footsteps. We are becoming more and more divided. More and more guilt ridden....to the point where absolutely everything we say must be put through a filter... sanitized and politically correct. We are becoming a generation afraid of free speech. People are afraid to even speak Ron Paul's name, for fear of being branded a "racist". This is what our political discourse has become today. Perhaps the only advantage some of the younger folks may have is time...less time spent being brainwashed by television. And new tools like the internet to our advantage. But it won't last, if something is not done. We are all sinking to the same fate.

Its the USE of the Internet vs the USE of the TV for information

Those of us, young or old, who use the internet to gather our information are different than those who USE the TV to get most or all their information.

Its that simple.

TV is winning. MSM THIS TIME has decided to blot out the power of the Internet with MANY TV DEBATES. Now as many TV debates are then used as recycled and spun "news" and "opinion" shows.

You and I can email out hundreds of YOU TUBE videos, but for those that use the internet "once in a while", we will have little effect on them. Hence, they will never learn via TV about the CIA's overthrow of Irans govt in 1954, not by watching Fox, or CNN.

The reason for this is explained to you here:
Its all about the MARKETING PLANS of the MSM and their vested interest in selling the Narrative.

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The MSM markets and protects Liberal & Conservative bad thinking

Liberal and Conservative Cognitive-dissonance explained

http://www.dailypaul.com/204667/liberal-and-conservative-cog...

Treg

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The Internet IS vital.

It is the only free press left in America.
It is darn near the only free speech that means anything.

I agree that YouTube links are nearly useless.
I started carrying around a portable DVD player with homemade DVDs of my favorite videos.

I wish I had started sooner.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

Yes

you have tools we didn't have but don't dismiss we used books and newspaper clippings.

I would suggest it wouldn't hurt to include your audience in your presentation. They'll sell it, you close it.

mickey45

Bravo!

I'm a late bloomer, and I was spoon fed all the sandwich as well.
And your 100% correct, people aren't stupid, we are frightened and need to know that we aren't being let out to dry, again.
GOD knows that the heart is where conversion begins, when we've learned this truth the weight of our arguments becomes loving compassion and not vitriol.
Ron will win this election if we respond to peoples needs, and the first need us to know they are not alone.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

Thanks! Empathy is huge.

These are our brothers and sisters.

I spent some time talking with a man (Richard) who had spent decades in the Navy. He thought that George Bush was wonderful. Why? Because one day Bush came through his outfit shaking hands and patting them on the back.

From then on Bush could send him and his children off to one meaningless war after another and he would still walk on water.

Richard came to the caucus and voted for Ron Paul by the way.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

Great Story!

I met Newt Gingrich during the 1994 election cycle while supporting my Congressman at a fund raiser. I declined shaking hands or the NORMAL photo taking session so many love. Like the guy even less now.

I'm very glad Richard had a change of heart.

Nice!

Glad another squid is on board, I'm X-Navy myself, Carter/ Reagan years.
Keep up the work, or
"I press on to the prize of my highest calling in GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus." if you prefer scripture.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

Thanks for explaining the mindset

I think, tho, that the actual reason it seems separated by age is the Internet. Those who use the Internet (which right now is practically coincidal with being "young" but is not necessarily the case for the "older set") can find out the truth while the mainstream media will constantly lie. I think the truth appeals to all equally - the Internet just is the key and I think the msm plays on that to add another barb in the division propaganda.

The Internet IS very important.

As I pointed out above.

It is true that some of the hardest sells are among people who ONLY get the news through the TV.

And just showing them the one video on YouTube does not seem to reverse years of brainwashing. But then neither does seeing one or two TV ads.

I think that is why the serial hypocrisy ads were so successful at hurting Gingrich in Iowa. It does not take changing your entire world view to recognize that someone is lying creep.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

Quit

calling it brainwashing.

Know your audience. Geez didn't some of you posters ever study marketing? I admire your research (we used books) and your ability to download, upload, and everything else but these are tools. Expand your toolbox with things of the past.

You cannot speak French to an American audience. You have to know your audience. You won't sell diapers to empty nesters. You won't sell eggs to a chicken farmer. You can't sell floss to an audience with dentures.

You know your product, now know your audience and get some "yes" nods. Even "maybe" nods. And you are on your way.

The older people are very complimentary in your use of resources. Give it back and you can see (posters) how easily it is received.

People learn by hearing and people learn by seeing. Both must be used to be successful in any marketing endeavor. Take your pictures with you. Older ones will see the white hair and younger ones will hear "younger".

Add your charts with how many are now on board and forget the repub/dem paradigm.

mickey45

What the heck makes you think that "older" people

don't use the internet? Maybe 80-90 year olds don't use it much, but I'm 62 and I'm on the internet ALL the time. (probably too much) Everyone I know is totally computer savvy and have been for years and years. I mean, you do understand that we've had a good 15 years to adapt to this new technology, right?

What is going on with this "age bias" lately?

Theres a difference (don't be so defensive)

I work in computers. Rarely do I need to help anyone 45-

Good message

But I hate that Daily Paulers are collectivists. Here we are separating ourselves by age. The younger are pointing fingers at the older, etc. Give me a break. I have fought and fought for Ron Paul since I first heard about him. Are my children fighting that hard? Hardly. Are their friends fighting that hard? Hardly. Are most of the young people I know fighting that hard? NOT!

They are too busy playing video games, watching football, going to concerts, movies, etc. They are too busy trying to make a living and trying to not think about it. Or they are too busy praising the likes of criminals like Obama.

So, remember we are all individuals. Demographically it appears the younger people are voting for Ron Paul more than the older folks. However, what percentage of young people are actually voting at all compared to older people? At least older people are voting.

What we need to be focusing on is everyone who is not voting for Ron Paul, whether it is older folks or younger folks not voting at all. Some people seem to be suffering from ignorance but many from apathy. And no more pointing fingers.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

You know, I really don't

You know, I really don't think the age gap is quite as big as it appears to be. Or at least, it doesn't have to be. Remember the media is always very quick to point out, over and over, how Ron is popular with "young people" and "college kids" -- they are trying very hard to convince us that that is the case. Why? It's about perceived electability. The media narrative is that Paul is only popular with a small base and can't widen his appeal. If we all believe this is true, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Older people start to think Ron Paul isn't popular with their peers, and so they don't open themselves up to hearing his message. It may have started with a grain of truth, but it has become full fledged propaganda to deter older voters from taking a serious look at Paul.

but

it's true on this site too. The younger think the older can't conceive of voting RP when the audience says differently. So accosting the "older" here just plays into the same diatribe.

I just talked to my niece (51) and she agrees. In our family, we talked to the elders. We played games and shared family. There is no division among the age groups that do this. She had no problem coming over and she is a huge MSM person.

MSM didn't exist until cable and few even afforded that until welfare could have it. So to blame it all on MSM and neglect the younger generations failed to spend time with family, is what?

If we were to take out RP from the present equation, the younger would have just what we had--a choice of Newt, Romney, or obama.

If the young on this site wants to really make a difference, then why not inundate the TV stations and tell them the moderators are obsolete and need replaced? Why attack the older people who are reading and listening?

It lies more with the next set of boomers children that were parked in front of a TV. The first set either didn't have TV or had to put up with jiggling the tubes around for 3 stations. We listened to radio, did homework, went to movies or were working.

Who takes the fault for our grannies sitting in front of a TV now? Hardly sounds like some have grandchildren who care to play a game of cards much less talk politics.

Look, look, and look again at the rallies. There are probably more old people there than young ones. Don't play into the media that only young ones listen. We are too.

mickey45

The MSM will do anything it can to marginalize RP.

It is all part of the divide and conquer strategy.
And I do think that the campaign should make more of an effort to show the older people who support Ron Paul.

But I think the demographic analysis of the polls indicate that there are age and gender gaps that we should try to close.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

your comment is interesting

in your mind obama is a criminal, but not bush, cheney, rumsfeld, right??

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

Not sure how you got to that conclusion.

No one is left unscathed so any assumptions don't hold much water.
All are complicit, inditing all equally. At least that's what I got. If that was the case then justly deserved. We all still participate in the fallacious system despite our objections and intentions of changing it for the better.

Uh No

In my mind the fact that the young people are so passionate about Obama shows they are as deluded and ignorant as the old people passionate about Bush, Cheney, et al. I don't know where you don't get that.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

To--the--point.

By the way, OP again, great thread... really great.

DPers aren't collectively disillusioned or delusional. Yet in comparative language, those attributes can and rightfully should be applied. I can relate, it's a self reinforcement mechanism which is necessary to keep the common goal of liberty in the forefront of our minds. It's like recharging a battery.

Without like minded communities and the internal arguments within, many facets of reality are left undiscussed and therefore vaporous. The absence of organization is chaos.

This communal self introspection is extremely healthy, something which the greater populous isn't inclined to participate.

Nonetheless, we are all individuals yet we strive for a common goal while grasping our own straws. Both further our own liberty.

Very curious

I've been watching this thread. It is a very curious self observational exercise. No back rubbing, no, self examination is prevalent. A measure of opinion if you will in the responses to such an important and deliberate community self evaluation.

That this post was negatively repped is rather curious indeed. Perhaps there is still quite the lack of introspection and self criticism among some people. That is certainly not unexpected.

Perhaps this can stand as a marker of how independent supposed independent thinkers are.

Essentially, the questions of self criticism must be asked. If they are ignored, the wider questions and/or answers are quite irrelevant. No one outside the reader has the answer.

Um

Ageism?

Um

No. Just a way of showing the shoe is on both feet, the young and the old. Ignorance and apathy are rampant in both places. No one has a corner on that market.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

You're ageist

Explaining it away by saying you can criticize anyone does not suddenly make ageism insightful.

Sorry about this

So you can't categorize me that way. There are plenty of people here at Daily Paul who do know me and know that I am nothing of the sort. You hear what you want to hear and not what is actually being said. You should take time to get to know people before you make such a general statement about them.

This comment was meant as a Reply to someone below who claimed I was an ageist. Someone who has been a member for a little over a week so really does not know me. I can't delete it here because it has been replied to. Cheers.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

You're ageist

Its not a democratic process