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George Soros buying up arms manufacturers

This may be olds news but I felt it was worth reporting. Gleened from the dailybell.com comments section:

Posted by Pewky on 01/24/12 02:07 PM

For The Elves: I received this email today... ... .

Who is Buying GUN Manufacturing Companies ?????
For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies are Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States . If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians. What a perfect way to control guns.
Now if you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management. A very large privately owned LLP with assets of $13 billion. The company is named after the three headed dog that guards the gates to hell. [Nice touch?]
Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out. Why have we not heard about this in the "mainstream" media? I would think this would be BIG news. (Soros also owns Progressive Insurance)
If you don't know who George Soros is, you need to do some research. He backed Obama with multi-millions of dollars and Obama is often characterized as a puppet on a string, controlled by Soros .

Related article: http://thedailybell.com/3327/Wall-Street-Buys-Up-Guns



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lol.. debunked is more like it

was curious a bit how these old world investors suddenly grew the smarts to know what's coming.. the straight line boom of stocks since the 80s didn't teach them one bit about what international/macro economics actually is

Doing a story on psyops/cointel, guess what? NOT TRUE!

other evil elites are behind this not Soros!

bogus. baloney. good effort though.

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When Obama became president

When Obama became president everyone knew gun sales would go up. Smart investment for the freedom group/chrysler,gmac/bailout company.

He can buy whatever he wants.

He still won't stop the sale of guns, other companies will just spring up if he removes his companies from the civilian market.

It is an enormous simplification to speak of the American mind. Every American has his own mind.

~Ludwig von Mises

This is spam

First heard about this on the Glenn Beck show of all places.

They asked the lady where she got the information from.

Turned out to be a spam chain letter.

Wouldn't we be able to see the companies Soros owns.

This story has no facts and holds no water.

Down Voted.

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I'm sure this goes hand in

I'm sure this goes hand in hand with Soros' remarks about the Occupy protests turning violent.

Anyway, it isn't hard to get the tax licenses to manufacture weapons, and there will always be a market for them. The financial barriers to entry aren't that steep like with cars and cell phones. Anyone with a half decent CNC shop could do it. The hardest part will be marketing and advertising.

Life on planet Earth

is beginning to resemble a bad horror flick.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

Hmm, even if it's not Soros

This consolidation of all gun manufacturers by one company is VERY DANGEROUS! It's dangerous for any product, but firearms in particular.

Suspiscious that this ALL happened over two years!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus_Capital_Management

Firearms — Acquired Bushmaster Firearms, Inc., from Windham, Maine native Dick Dyke for an undisclosed sum in April 2006, and purchased Remington Arms in April 2007. Under Cerberus direction, Bushmaster Firearms acquired Cobb Manufacturing, a well-respected manufacturer of large-caliber tactical rifles in August 2007. Cerberus also acquired DPMS Panther Arms December 14, 2007.[29][30] Remington Arms acquired Marlin Firearms in January 2008.[31][32] In October 2009, Remington Military products acquired silencer manufacturer Advanced Armament Corporation.[33] These companies were combined into the Freedom Group.

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat meat!

Even if...

Even if all the gun makers were bought up and shut down, the cat's been out of that bag so long that the burlap has turned to dust. The estimates are that there are well over 250 million firearms (and that figure is from 5-10 years ago) in this country and they are in the hands of over 100 million gun owners. If just 2% said enough is enough, that would be a 2 million man armed force. A force to be reckoned with very carefully.

Desert storm 1 (through a multi nation coalition BTW) only fielded a force of 956,600 troops, and many of them were in logistics, not fighters in the mix of battle. Also only 73% were US troops. Something to think about. Only the Chinese at this point are capable of putting an army larger than 2 million on the ground on US soil. However, it would take too long to get them all here and the war would be over before it even started since an overwhelming force could never be landed throughout the US all at once.

The good thing about the free enterprise system is that incentive creates productivity. So, even if all the arms and ammunition companies were bought up and shut down, many more would spring up behind them because the demand would be high, the prices would follow and it would be a very profitable start-up venture in either arms or ammo. Take the ammo for instance, that could even be started as a mom and pops business in a garage with a couple of progressive re-loaders and a bunch of different die for the most common types of ammo. And for bullets?? Lets see... where to find lead? Ahh yes, I have 3 or 4 dead car batteries in my garage right now... And bullet molds can be had as well. Nothing to fear from that loser soros here even if this were all true.

Only an outright ban on the manufacture and sale of all firearms and ammunition in the US should need to be feared by anyone concerned about this issue (and that cart has been moved quite a bit back up the road by recent SCOTUS decisions). If such a thing were to occur how could it be remedied? I simply refer you to the 2 million man fighting force I described some 4 paragraphs ago. After all, the first shots in the revolutionary war weren't fired until the brits marched on the armories. Do you think it would be any different this time? : )

Me worry about a gun or ammo ban or manufacturing shut-down... Naww..... If I even caught a whiff of a ban, I'd have a chunk of 6 inch PVC with screw on caps in my hands so fast there wouldn't be any tread left on my tires from the trip to Lowes and back. I already have a post hole digger. Problem solved: My Norinco M-14 .308 caliber sporter would be buried vertically in a secure location within hours of such a ban (a vertical burial cuts down on the detection profile of any means of detection). And what to do with the 750 rounds of NATO .308 ammo I bought on the cheap?? Use them to fix the problem.

Paul.

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...and that is the free-market answer to the problem. It would actually be a wonderful thing if someone tried to restrict gun ownership in this manner because it would spawn a whole crop of new companies catering to the general public. By the way, Soros isn't buying defense companies to try and implement gun control. He believes, like many of us, that once the economy fails, governments will attempt to crack down on civil liberties. they need guns for that. Citizens will also arm themselves. Soros said as much in a recent, almost apocalyptic interview. Believe it or not, he actually referenced certain austrian ideas saying,"We need to move from the Age of Reason to the Age of Fallibility in order to have a proper understanding of the problems.”

see interview in daily beast:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/22/george-soro...

No rest for the wicked. None

No rest for the wicked.

None for us either.

Debunked

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/freedom.asp

This has been debunked before. I have no idea why people get an email or see some post and believe it, passing it off as truth without looking into claims made therein.

The reason you haven't heard about this in the mainstream media is that it is horsebleep.

Really?

Did you know the NRA writes most anti-gun legislation so it can collect money to defeat bills that it writes itself?

"The problem is not those in power, the problem is right between your ears." ~Larken Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5FNDRgPOLs&list=FL4wdZ0dK3HG...

that's really quite stupid

The point isn't the NRA.

And I'm sure you are an expert in something, but involvement in legislative matters sure isn't it.

The point is that the original post refers to something which is a lie told to rubes who pass it along among themselves.

Conspiracy bs is believed by rubes who like to think they know something that no one else knows.

Truth is, they know little of anything at all.

All is illusions

Your're right; the point wasn't the NRA. However, that statement came from Gordon Duff, senior editor over at veteranstoday.com. A man who has more insider contacts worldwide than he would ever publicly profess. They also have on their staff at veteranstoday some very reliable, experienced investigative reporters with resources that rival anything that you will ever find at snopes. I have come to trust their reporting while not always agreeing with some of their opinions.

And though I do NOT seek out conspiracy theories, I am not so foolish as to presume that conspiracy fact does not exist. You think the NRA is above reproach? Whenever men are put in positions of power the institutions they lead can, and usually do, become ripe with corruption. A once trusted AARP comes to mind.

You trust snopes? Good! I'm glad you're able to place so much faith in them in order to validate or invalidate your views.

You probably think google, yahoo, youtube, gmail, wikipedia, wikleaks, and a few others I won't name are to be trusted as well. Go for it.

I make no claims to be an expert in anything but I can read and think critically which is a concept you seem to have apparently decided to abandon while summarily dismissing the link to thedailybell.com article that corroborates the points being made in the original post regarding Soros.

And by the way, I don't appreciate the name calling. If I can't relate a story here, verifiable or not, or express an opinion without you resorting to ad hominem attacks, then we don't have anything further to discuss.

Rube indeed!

"The problem is not those in power, the problem is right between your ears." ~Larken Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5FNDRgPOLs&list=FL4wdZ0dK3HG...

what nonsense

That's ignorant gibberish.

There is absolutely NOTHING in the way of "corroboration" in what you offer as proof.

There are completely bogus allegations, with no substantiation.

Soros doesn't own the company.

You verified absolutely nothing.

People who spread this kind of nonsense are worthless minds.

You are right, we have nothing to discuss.

and let me guess

it sounds like you believe everything the NRA tells you? not to say the story is true or not , i haven't researched it enough to judge but i think you should be very careful of what the NRA tells you . that being said i have been a member for several years i just keep a very close eye on the leadership and the legislation that they support ,and i do voice my opinion from time to time with them

wrong guess

but then, people who believe this kind of crap are the kind who are used to being wrong.

Do you believe every chain email you receive?

I'm not an NRA member and the debunking job in the link I provided was from Snopes.

Snopes is a good authority to check before you rush off the next chain email you receive.