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Gallup results: Ron Paul surges into the lead among voters 18 to 34

Gallup's national poll of Republican and Republican-leaning independent registered voters reveals Ron Paul surging from 23% to 31% in the 18 to 34 age group, from the week ending Jan 15 to the week ending Jan 22. Meanwhile Romney dropped from 32% to 26%, putting Ron Paul decisively in the lead among younger voters! Gallup's Frank Newport cautiously writes, "Young adults still show above-average support for Paul."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152147/Gingrich-Erases-Romney-Nat...

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6% of the over 55 crowd

that's the number we better pay attention to. If this number remains the same Ron Paul loses, it's that simple.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

NH College towns

RPcame in THIRD in each of the three biggest NH college towns (Dartmouth, UNH, and Keene State). This is not the result of young people not voting. but of young people's votes not counting.

AND THE 18-34 will be absent come voting day

THEY STAY HOME. If we could figure how to get these 18-34 out to vote then that would be something

Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

In The LORD Jesus Christ;
Dave

"where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty." 2 Cor. 3:17

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They came out for

Obama.

~Your perception becomes your reality~

Right...why?

WHY? did they come out for Obama?

Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

In The LORD Jesus Christ;
Dave

"where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty." 2 Cor. 3:17

http://www.lionandlambministry.com

Free stuff? White guilt? Endless media hype?

I'm really trying to fix on any reason but the obvious, it's just too frightening to accept. The largest group of voters in America, is the moron block.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

Looking at the results from IA and NH

Only 16% of the voters were between 18-29. Yes, Ron Paul is winning the young people, but the young people need to get out and vote. If Ron Paul expects to win, we need these numbers in the 30% range, at the very least. Somehow we need to turn the youth exuberance and enthusiasm into motivated voters.

Woot!

Younger voters get less information from the mass-media filter, and more online from social networks. They're also less trapped in established ideas about what works, so don't fall into the mainstream media's mantras as easily.

Ron Paul or NONE AT ALL!!!

If moderates want anyone but Obama, fiscal-conservatives want Paul, libertarians want Paul, independents want Paul, and disenchanted-democrats want Paul; Ron Paul is the best choice to beat the incumbent.

Older voters mistaken about how much gravy they're getting

I wonder whether older voters are merely assuming they're pulling more gravy back out of the system and that Dr. Paul's plan would cut them out of bennies they paid for their own elders to receive. Except they're wrong! If you've got a dime to your name, the MIC and the banksters are working with the government to relieve you of that dime! Retirement is going to be hell for the younger baby boomers and GenX (or never come at all) if we don't chop big government off at the knees.

Nobody is safe from the leviathan, benefits from the govt to seniors are on the neo-lib/neo-con chopping block! Obama has deliberately undermined Social Security by cutting funding, to make excuses for cutting benefits. Ron Paul wants to phase out the program with compassion, not put people on cat food diets. He realizes that the MENACE is the GOVERNMENT. The neo-libs and neo-cons agree that the MENACE in their eyes are the RETIREES who divert spending away from the endless wars and their bankster friends.

Need to educate older voters. It might be easier to reach seniors because the $$$ numbers are black and white. Harder for GenXers, my generation, because we mooch off the teat so incredibly bad with public schools, road subsidies, college subsidies, things that make our lives cushy and less complicated because somebody else is paying.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

So where do older folks hang

So where do older folks hang out online? While it may be true that the under 40 crowd spends more time online, I get the impression that the younger segment of Internet users are more likely to use sites like YouTube and Twitter. I my know my dad and many of my older relatives use the Internet, but tend to do different stuff online. So where do you guys spend your time online?

I don't think that they hang around forums.

But they do forward emails to each other, alot. They like funny or clever short emails, preferably with pictures.

Got Marmaduke?

;)

The campaign needs to keep

The campaign needs to keep the mantra that it is attracting all kinds of people including independents and democrats to win the election against Obama. We are alienating some of the older crowd because the campaign keeps espousing that they have the young vote all the time. Older people think young people don’t have the experience, want to legalize drugs, are anti-establishment, etc., so they are not giving RP a chance. I am 50 and love RP.

Ron Paul 2012!!!

I am forty-eight and I vote for Ron Paul.
My name is Grant and I approve of this message.
grant

Good news...but.

I hate to see Ron in distant third. Twenty+ point behind Newt? I mean come on. How did that ever happen?

Whatever happened to the competativeness of Paul in Iowa and New Hampshire? I can't wait untill Florida is over and the campaign moves West.

NH has a libertarian bent....

NH has a libertarian bent.... If only Mitt didn't have such huge name recognition here in New England, Ron would have won the state, I'm sure of that. But SC is a neocon hotbed, no doubt about it.

folks we MUST remmeber that old voters HATE a CRUDE liberty

concept...so we must emphasize that the main culprits of the losses oof our liberties are EXCESSIVE GOVERNMENT SPENDINGS...based on that you ASK the people...HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT IF IT IS NOT BY GETTING POWER BACK FROM THE GOVERNMENT so we can downsize it? Shrinking the central government is CRUCIAL....otherwise NO more the good old lifestyle...

We need the 55+ vote...

This is no revelation. I've seen it posted numerous times in various threads and I am in full agreement that this segment MUST be addressed in whatever media the campaign participates in or creates itself via TV ads. Same goes for the PAC's.

I also only hear from whatever videos of Dr. Paul in the mainstream media and the likes of Judge Napolitano questions pertaining to young voters. They ask "why do you think your message appeals to young voters?" "Dr. Paul, being the oldest candidate in the field, how do you get the support from the younger voters?"

They/we are allowing us to miss mentioning the other segments that also support Ron Paul. I never hear a response from Dr. Paul that says "well yes, we do get a lot of support from the young voters but we have just as much enthusiasm from our supporters in their 40s 50s and 60s." My fear is that media with our help is hammering Dr. Paul into being a one trick pony. He only appeals to young voters. Older voters hear this and dismiss the validity of support because they are "young" voters and not like me, older and more wise to the world.

The campaign, PAC's and the rest of us need to speak specifically to the concerns of this voting segment within the overall context of Dr. Paul's message:

1. He's not going to stop your Social Security payments. He will begin laying the framework to transition out of SS into a more beneficial program consistent with his message.

Tell older parents and grandparents that if we continue on the same path there will be no SS (no big secret to anyone currently living). Challenge them eloquently to vote for Dr. Paul so that this segment can feel comfortable that their loved ones (especially their grandchildren) will have a brighter future than they had.

2. Emphasize his changes will not lead to chaos but only to increased responsibility for the States not the federal government.

This segment fears change the most. While most inherently want to follow the Constitution, they either are in denial or ignorant to how far we have actually strayed from the Constitutional form of government we should have. Tell them how making these changes will lead to a better future.

This last bullet may be the one thing that will get the most attention if done right.

3. Ending the Fed and/or sound money and/or fiscal responsibility. Older people are very concerned and protective about their money.

This segment, especially the older you get still remembers what times were like after the depression in 1929. Their parents who did experience the brunt of the depression taught them to save and be cautious with their money. Explain to them in very simple terms how they have been penalized for their good stewardship of their hard earned wages. Their savings has been eroded by inflation and that the Fed/government has allowed this to occur and is directly responsible for this. This in turn will afford them less wealth to pass on to their heirs.

I'm sure we can come up with examples to illustrate this clearly. Ever hear your grandparents talk about how this or that used to only cost a quarter or fifty cents and now it costs three dollars? They understand this because they've lived it.

These horses are thirsty but can't find anything to drink. We have plenty of water to go around. We just need to show them we have it in abundance.

These are thoughts towards making inroads to this important segment. They are by no means the answer by themselves but hopefully a place to get us started in the right direction. I'm tired of seeing low 10% or single digit percentages amongst the highest turn out voting segment after these primaries/caucuses.

Am going to go see what I need to do to become a delegate in my area. I can't take this anymore. I need to do more. Anyone in North Carolina that can help guide me I would greatly appreciate any feedback.

The future is now. Let's make it happen!

"Criticizing Ron Paul for not passing bills in Congress is like criticizing a nun in a whore house for not turning tricks. He was there to stop the "whoring," not become one!" ~ Blake Buffington

But getting them to actually vote is the trick

18-34 year olds comprise 30% of voting age Americans. This bracket though unfortunately has the lowest turnout in absolute numbers when it should be the highest! Getting them to actually vote is the trick.

What's Crazy About Our Constitution?

"It's the internet, stupid"

Someone here made a great point a while back, and that was that the campaign really needs to hammer home the point that "the young people" don't just support Ron Paul because he has "young ideas" and they are concerned about their futures (both true), but also because, more often than other age groups, THEY DON'T WATCH FOX, CNN, AND MSNBC, BUT INSTEAD RESEARCH THINGS FOR THEMSELVES ON THE INTERNET AND YOUTUBE, which gives them a chance to hear Dr. Paul's ideas without interruption, spin, etc. I think this is a key point to make.

YES!

I am so curious why the campaign does not use this argument. Are they really that scared of alienating old people who aren't on the interwebs? Or maybe scared of sounding like conspiracy theorists against the MSM? Because this argument seems to be logically powerful. And it has the obvious upside of strongly encouraging skeptics to do some objective research and decide for themselves.

I think humanic needs to make this a separate forum topic!

I think humanic needs to make this a separate forum topic!

I'm seriously.

Wish I could give this comment 1,000,000 upvotes!

Exactly this! It's not that everyone who's over 34 doesn't love liberty, it's just that all they know is that RP is some crazy guy with wacky ideas that the guy in the talkin' piture box said not to pay any attention to.

Now donate at https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/ and help their mini money bomb to END the TSA!!

I keep pushing the up arrow too!

The point about internet vs. msm is such an easy one to make.

It all comes down to self-directed research ... made that much more easy using the interwebs ... by people who are able to make the time to do so.

Alot of Neocons are waking up.

Mother in law and father in law used to be big Hannity watchers, now newly converted Paul supporters we are doing a great job keep pushing!

Wow, great job!

I love to hear that kind of stuff :-)

I heard the most wonderful

I heard the most wonderful thing from my dad today.

We were talking on the phone about Ron Paul and how his older friends were starting to turn to Ron Paul. Then we spoke of the media and I said "I've been watching it more to keep up on what they're saying. I must hear a lie every five minutes". He said I'm sounding like my mother, who watches the news every day.

I was taken back and worried because she's always watched the news in the morning, and I thought she might be getting the wrong picture. But my dad said "No! She swears at the TV! First she watches fox and yells at the TV, then changes to CNN and yells at the TV, and goes through all the channels then checks the internet."

I was so proud! Only four years ago I was telling my parents to check out Ron Paul, and to vote for him in the primaries when I couldn't even vote. Now they're having Ron Paul parties and yelling at the MSM.

A lot of people still have wool over their eyes. But our numbers are growing rapidly, and they will continue to grow regardless of the outcome of this election.

Us older folks

have terrible numbers according to these stats.

I appreciate so much the posts made here about the concerns of older people because it helps me to be able to talk with people my age about Ron Paul and Liberty. It gives me fresh ideas for when we talk.

I believe that is my responsibility as an older person who believes in liberty to find ways to communicate the goodness of it with my peers who might not agree yet about this cause. I can do that to the best of my ability as my contribution.

All of you younger people are so fantastic! It makes me so hopeful for my adult children,grandchildren,their children and so on. I always worry about what kind of world they will grow up in and have to face as adults wanting to survive and raise their own families.

You all are so wonderful...

the problem

The problem with a lot of older people is that they have spent most of their lives getting most of their information from TV and newspapers.

True

Yet at the very least many of the journalists were a different breed 30 plus years ago, in a good way.

donvino