BREAKING: Twitter Trail Confirms "China Jon" Video as "False Flag", Points to Huntsman Campaign
Submitted by humanic on Fri, 01/27/2012 - 18:17*** VOTE UP, COMMENT, SPREAD!
TWO new reports have been published on The End Run regarding the "China Jon" video:
BREAKING: Twitter Trail Confirms “China Jon” Video as “False Flag”, Points To Huntsman Campaign
and
The "China Jon" Fraud Deconstructed
The Paul campaign is suing the makers of this video. They just got some serious help.
"As documented and demonstrated beyond any doubt in these two reports, the "Jon Huntsman’s Values" video (aka the "China Jon’" video) was a "false flag"-style dirty trick designed to sabotage the Ron Paul campaign and defame the candidate and his supporters -- a goal which was accomplished with considerable success. Furthermore, all roads lead to the Huntsman camp, and especially Huntsman’s "viral video"-producing, social-media-utilizing, Establishment-media-darling daughters, or the "Jon2012Girls", as they are known on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter."
Note that it also says, "To webmasters and bloggers: please do not re-publish this particular piece in its entirety on your sites. Instead, please excerpt a small section (preferably the intro) and link here (The End Run), so that the author may retain control and continue to perfect the text after initial publication. Thank you for your interest and support, and may the truth prevail."
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Serious journalism
The MSM, if they were any reputable source of news, would be taking note of things like this.
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Wow is that some piece. Of
Wow is that some piece. Of course it will get buried by msm.
An even more enlightening, almost 'smoking gun' type piece implicating the vast conspiracy against RP and exposing the machinations and manipulations, is linked below. Whomever is behind theendrun.com I'd like to kiss.
http://www.theendrun.com/something-rotten-in-iowa-the-hackti...
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Implications!
Holy crap! Thanks for the link!
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If anyone had doubts about the smell of it from the start...
So it seems to turn out as being something you can give nouns to. (Nice try Jon's camp, but fail, "sir")
That is :
"Framing."
"Setup."
"Slander."
"Mainstream Biased Media Information War."
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Oh well, all in all :
SHAME entered in History's records, on whoever did on behalf of Mr. H's side.
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Gee... I wonder if this will be reported with the same zeal?
I think we already know the answer. In short, FAT CHANCE!
That's why I hope Ron Paul pursues this lawsuit like a keenly focused, ravaging grizzly bear to expose the perpetrator(s), likely to be Huntsman's daughters. Then once exposed, I'd love to see Ron Paul go Cujo on the lamestream media's a** in front of a national audience for disseminating such horsesh** without even a cursory check.
And if it does turn out to be Huntsman's daughters and Jon having any knowledge or involvement than I think child protection should take his children by using them as objects for personal gain. Because that would be deplorable!
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I'd bet the one million dollars I don't have...
...
it WILL NOT (be reported so).
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+1
for the first half, of course. Huntsman needs to give account for this mess and take responsibility, especially given how it made Paul look in the short-term.
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OK, maybe not the 2nd part because of the whole overbearing government control thing (e.g. taking children from parents who refuse forced inoculation).
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Who had access to the home video?
Of huntsman speaking Chinese to his daughter? Explain this to me and I'll tell you who did it. And hashtagging jon2012girls in the first tweet, wow that's pretty sloppy if they did indeed do it. Haha. Whatever comes of this remember: we are victorious, still in the running while huntsman is now the chairperson of his billionaire daddy's foundation. Haha, karma!
The source of the home videos was my first thought
If Buzzfeed is actually the source that posted them, this plot has just added a new layer.
How many people would know about this video on the net. According to views it is just under 40K.
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The footage was actually published by BuzzFeed 2 months earlier
See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IQr9kMHdU8&feature=related
Now where BuzzFeed got it I don't know. This is from "The 'China Jon' Fraud Deconstructed" (2nd article in OP)...
BUZZFEED.COM – A site that has routinely promoted the activities of “Jon2012Girls” going back months. They also promoted the Huntsman campaign’s “Twilight Zone” attack on Ron Paul the previous week. Two of the site’s political reporters, Zeke Miller and McCay Coppins, were on the “shortlist” of recipients of the “China Jon” video from “NHLiberty4Paul”. The former was the guy who posted the “Twilight Zone” ad to BuzzFeed last time around. The latter became the first person on all of Twitter to send out the “China Jon” video upon receiving it, misleadingly claiming that he had just “found” it. They dutifully embedded the “China Jon” video on BuzzFeed with the headline: “Paul Supporters Launch Insane Attack On ‘Manchurian Candidate’ Jon Huntsman”.
That's the other part of the equation
Was that footage in the public domain or even available? Doubt very much
That is just too much logic in one sentence.
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I still think Newt's people
I still think Newt's people had something to do with it because in his anti Mitt ad he showed Mitt speaking French as if that was something negative. Was the similarity just a coincidence?
My comment on this subject from 01/06/2012
I wonder if they read my DailyPaul comment from 01/06/2012?
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By far and away the biggest
By far and away the biggest shame in all of this is the media's willful blindness toward the fact that this was CLEARLY not a legitimate "ad" and therefore not a story at all. The media put this story to the general public even though they KNEW the source was anonymous and likely a plant.
Nobody can look at that video and NOT think right away that this was faked. You can't stop crap like this from getting made, but you CAN be a real journalist and not propagate obvious slander.
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Yep
Quote from "The 'China Jon' Fraud Deconstructed" (link also in OP)
SOURCE: http://www.theendrun.com/the-china-jon-huntsman-fraud-decons...
Maybe this is enough for a
Maybe this is enough for a subpena?
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Let's hope
At the very least it is an EXTREMELY strong "prima facie" case.
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My blood is boiling!!
Send the creators to a few months in jail, and force every writer to write a retraction and apology for spreading this crap! I'm sooooo PISSED!!!!!
Excellent REAL investigative journalism
So...the reporters/professional Paul-haters who first covered the story MUST have known it was an "inside job," because it was immediately sent to them.
Based on the info in the second article, it looks to me like Huntsman's daughters did it.
They [Huntsman'st daughters] were apparently so quick to the draw that only 39 people on all of Twitter had tweeted the already-going-viral video. If you look at the list of the first 40 Tweets provided above, you’ll see that the last one says, “@jamemiami @Jon2012Girls This video has nothing to do with Ron Paul or his supporters”. This person likely saw Huntsman’s daughter’s tweet and was responding to it.
WHAT.
WHAT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFxvy9XyUtg
bump
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totally 100% busted
#jon2012girls #felony
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Think about the timing...I
Think about the timing...
I read the whole thing. It was really long, but I'm really glad somebody wrote about this in depth.
So, what does this whole thing really say? Whoever made that video is an evil, dark-hearted person and I'm sure that person's life reflects the kind of person they are. I kind of feel bad for someone with that kind of vapid soul. Honestly, I don't know or care if it was his daughters or not. They have some people in the campaign that are new-media savvy and apparently without conscience.
Anyway, one thing that this article lacks (I know, I know...) is a probable scenario of how the whole thing really came to be. Even though the video was poorly made, it still must have taken some time to put it together. I know the prevailing thought was that this is in retaliation by his daughters from a tweet from the RP campaign about the Iowa caucuses, but I don't think so. That tweet was not all that bad or harmful to Huntsman and at this point they could care less about a personal feud with Paul.
No, the more likely scenario is that the Hunstman campaign had schemed and devised this false-flag attack months ago. It was clearly part of a bigger strategy.
* Think about the timing of this video. It was released AFTER Iowa (Jon was ignoring) and BEFORE New Hampshire (Jon's first real contest). If you were to pick the perfect time for something like this to go viral within the entire campaign season, would it not be at this very time? Down to the day? The very day! This is not a knee jerk reaction to a tweet!
* The video said absolutely nothing about Ron Paul. The video was all about Hunstman and Ron Paul's name was just tacked on at the end. Most likely this video was cleverly crafted to have the right look and emotional feel and also touch upon three key points that Jon wanted to boast about. Any honest person with a brain can see that this video was designed to garner sympathy for Jon Hunstman, have shock news value to create buzz, and to give Jon an opportunity to get into the news cycle to brag about himself (disguised as defending himself against a viscous attack). No, I'm sure the campaign was ready to tack on the name of any opponent who Hunstman wanted to target one week before the NH primary. Could have been Bachmann, Cain, etc. but Jon's biggest rival happened to be Ron Paul.
Jon's daughters may be young and hip with tech, but that does not mean they necessarily did this. Anybody close to the campaign could have, but it is clear there was a strategy to it.
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This thing
was likely planned LONG ago specifically to help in efforts to take down Paul in New Hampshire.
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I agree that this what not in
I agree that this what not in response to the tweet. Am I the only one to remember that Huntsman started very negative ads attacking Paul even before that?
I agree that the timing is key
It was not a coincidence. I also agree that it was planned before the tweet from the Paul campaign was ever sent out.
However, the video would not have taken much time to make at all. It was actually based around a video published by BuzzFeed several months earlier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IQr9kMHdU8&feature=related
Would not have taken much to add the stupid titles to that.
From the 1st article...
BUZZFEED.COM – A site that has routinely promoted the activities of “Jon2012Girls” going back months. They also promoted the Huntsman campaign’s “Twilight Zone” attack on Ron Paul the previous week. Two of the site’s political reporters, Zeke Miller and McCay Coppins, were on the “shortlist” of recipients of the “China Jon” video from “NHLiberty4Paul”. The former was the guy who posted the “Twilight Zone” ad to BuzzFeed last time around. The latter became the first person on all of Twitter to send out the “China Jon” video upon receiving it, misleadingly claiming that he had just “found” it. They dutifully embedded the “China Jon” video on BuzzFeed with the headline: “Paul Supporters Launch Insane Attack On ‘Manchurian Candidate’ Jon Huntsman”.