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Chuck Baldwin: Christians Feed Their Own To The Lions

CHRISTIANS FEED THEIR OWN TO THE LIONS

We've all heard about how Christians were thrown to the lions during the reign of the Caesars. But it is very doubtful that Christians were feeding one another to the lions. Alas, it appears that should this kind of Christian persecution become vogue in America, many Christians would doubtless join with these modern-day Caesars and gladly feed their own to the lions.

How did it happen? How did Christians lose their love? Of course, our Lord predicted that the day would come when "the love of many shall wax cold." (Matthew 24:12) Sadly, this truism also obviously applies to many of us calling ourselves Christians. But how did it happen? How did Christians lose their love for souls? How did they lose their love for the Brotherhood? How did they lose their love for truth? How did they lose their love for peace? How did they lose their love for liberty? How did it happen?

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Many so-called Christians don't love or follow Jesus...

sad but true. I am 30 now. Spent my days seeking the truth. Jesus touched me with His Holy Spirit and a fresh anointing in 2002. I couldn't stop sharing my faith and remained a virgin. I was so much in the spirit. I got my first real girlfriend at the age of 28 and got in the flesh again...no I remained pure, but satan lied to me that I was ugly and wouldn't be able to please her. I ended up fighting demons (many of which I saw with my own eyes. It's funny how they look like aliens.. they aren't aliens) and ended up in a mental hospital. They wanted to put me on Prozac and all these other drugs because they didn't believe I was fighting demons. I quoted the Psalms at the hospital all day and even prayed for other patients. I battled for 3 weeks and feared for my soul because satan lied to me again that I committed the unforgivable sin and that was why all the evil came against me. It was all lies. I sang to God and He delivered me. I went home free. The next morning I was sitting on the living room couch (completely exhausted)and God touched my head and my left shoulder (I felt Him physically touch me) He anointed me more and filled me with unspeakable joy. I went out in the yard and sang Hallelujah thank you Lord for about 3 hours. An angel sang with me. I never heard an angel until that day.. it sounded as pure as a wind chime and sang in a high pitch whistle tone. It was louder than my own voice. God has spoken to me in many dreams and prophecies. This battle lasted a month, but it was only 5% of the next battle I went through. I just overcame the next battle. I am in the 22nd month of that battle that just ended on 2/2/12 and my first nephew was born yesterday 2/3. God's timing is amazing. He anointed me again and all I want to do is travel the world and preach the gospel even if it means staying a pure and single man. I did much for Ron Paul, but Babylon will fall. Only Jesus will stop the NWO with his glorious 2nd coming. I'm sorry for those who believe it, but there is no pre-trib rapture. Memorize Psalm 91 and get ready. I will focus on preaching the truths of God and salvation. Be ready to be killed for His name's sake.

“I don't think we should go to the moon. I think we maybe should send some politicians up there.” -Ron Paul

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When the church marries the state....

....it'll be Christian against Christian(on behalf of the state) again in world history!!!

The justification for our revolutionary war against tyranny started IN THE CHURCHES...funny how the government has successfully bound the churches to the IRS via a 501c3 status....

Wasn't this book [ http://eleniewski.blogspot.com ] BANNED from our public schools in about 1950? Gee, I wonder why?

The deliberate Marxist tanking of this economy through political cronyism and moral compromise, in pursuit of the love of money carrot-and-stick approach(Federal Reserve bubble)cost me and my family a successful budding career that I loved! Ron Paul 2012

Christian vote is important, just remember that

some of the comments on here are a bit inflammatory towards Christians like me. I'm not upset, but calling Christians stupid and saying we do exactly opposite of what Jesus tells us is going a little far. Keep in mind, without getting at least a decent amount of the Christian vote, our good Doctor cannot win. I do agree with the article itself though. Very true and very well written. As a Christian myself, hearing other Christians boo the golden rule would be like hearing fellow Ron Paul fans cheering FOR the fed rather than to end it. It broke my heart a little bit to see how blinded the people are. We cannot, however, ostracize Christians because I would argue that we are the most important group for Paul to win over. If he can win Christians, he wins, so I would encourage you to watch saying inflammatory things in the future. Just my two cents!
Ron Paul 2012!!

Thank You!

:)!

Its all about hive thinking when it comes to the "Christians"

When it should be about caring your inner temple.

In the seventeenth chapter of Saint Luke it is written " the kingdom of God is within man " - not one man, nor a group of men - but in all men - in you, the people.

Nowadays people wants to be in a "group" which is mainstream literally. Sickening people. Because when the "group" is meant to have values, and the values are forgotten, the meaning is vanished. - and its walking all over those who really fought for the values.
Need an example ?: Just remember when Paul was booed for bringing up the golden rule. Sickening people.

If Jesus was running for president

he would be treated exactly, to the details, of how Paul is treated. Crucified.

Its beyond me, how stupid the majority of people is.

They are not stupid. They

They are not stupid. They are blinded by their own sin; they want the status quo to remain. If it doesn't, they will be forced to reflect on their actual lives and what they have been supporting all of these years.

For there will be a time when people will not tolerate sound teaching. Instead, following their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves, because they have an insatiable curiosity to hear new things. And they will turn away from hearing the truth, but on the other hand they will turn aside to myths.
(2 Timothy 4:3-4 NET)

Of course they

throw their own to the lions. What else would we expect from a group of people who's only reason to not vote for Romney is because he is Mormon.

Mormons(arguably Christian) as a whole, have a lot in common with "Christians". For the most part they don't fucking think. Most of them do the opposite of what Jesus taught. They are like the pharisees of today. They have it all figured out and Jesus wants us to kill everyone who isn't "Christian" in their opinion. They refuse to even heed their own scriptures.

Chuck is the man!

Great article. Thanks!

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Chuck Baldwin knows....

...what a lot of Christians know, but are AFRAID to do; in hopes of saving their own HIDES!!!

We need a HUGE unregistered church movement in America - NO MORE 501c3 handcuffs for Bible believing Christians who KNOW America's heritage when the General Principles of Christianity governed individual men who dared to become our REPRESENTATIVES! They could be TRUSTED to practice personal self-restraint and HONOR the boundaries of the Constitution in their public lives because they REVERENCED the Creator and His moral laws!

We are not, and were never to be a THEOCRACY; and we still ONLY elect professing Christians to serve in public office - so WHY are we being governed by TYRANTS???

Because Church LEADERSHIP is worried about EXTERNAL appearances and worshiping MONEY instead of BLASTING so-called "Christian" politicians/representatives that LIE to their constituents or vote in VIOLATION of our Constitution and God-given Liberties at EVERY TURN - especially in weekly sermons; they don't because they are Zionist bought and influenced, and TOO BUSY holding onto their ACCUMULATED creature comforts and EASY lifestyle of prestige and UNDUE respect!!!

Chuck is right to ask - how did Christian America get this bad? ...

Here's my current perspective in two 10 minute videos I made; [ http://www.youtube.com/user/Discernment2012 ]

The way American Republican Christian voters VOTE against Ron Paul drives this point home so VIVIDLY!!!

I learned this better the more I got away from being in church every time the doors were opened, ran for State Rep(got no support from Christian conservatives), and joined the Ron Paul revolution. So many Churches start out good, but then become social clubs full of baby Christians very quickly in America, once some people get their spiritual knuckles whacked by a good sermon full of scripture!

I first heard this teaching FIRST HAND on a Wednesday Night Bible Study in a church that was also a 501c3 - and one that also thinks George W. Bush is a born-again Christian, whereas our war against Islam is justified because it is our biblical DUTY to defend Israel - one where discussing building 7, and the plane at the Pentagon was QUICKLY frowned upon soon after 9/11; let alone question whether or not the creation of the terrorist state of Israel after World War II is PROPHECY...

The majority of MOST congregations/leadership do NOT have ears to hear - otherwise they would KNOW satan's greatest trap is COUNTERFEIT Christianity, under minions who APPEAR to them as angels of light!!!

This is why people like Christopher Hitchens and other Libertarians KNOW organized religion is a sham - and - world religions and denominations are used by the WEALTHY running state and WEALTHY running the churches to play the divide and conquer game!!!

Do I really NEED a theology degree to PREACH the WORD, and challenge this nation's professing Christians to rise up against TYRANNY???

Hey Chuck - do you want to hold a national conference with other Christian men who will speak boldly and make presentations about our nation's history, and preach from the Word what Christian men should be DOING in this age of our American "CHRISTIAN" government's tyrannical oppression, open disregard for our Bill of Rights, and direct dismissal of our Rule of Law?

I have a presentation already 90% prepared!!!

PROVEN statist politicians, citing Christianity as their specific profession of faith, REALLY gets my goat; worse off, professing Christians who do NOT give a rip also irks me to no end!!!

The fate of the duped is recorded in history; it is cyclical, and therefore PREDICTABLE [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVl54MLE6sw ] - we're ALL going down together on this ship, why?; because our American Christian faith is small, and centered in what MAN can do - this WAS NOT the case with our founding fathers!!!

Want PROOF? Here's a history book from 1844 that pretty much sums up what led to our founders SACRIFICING it ALL ... http://postimage.org/image/skypm7l4z/

The deliberate Marxist tanking of this economy through political cronyism and moral compromise, in pursuit of the love of money carrot-and-stick approach(Federal Reserve bubble)cost me and my family a successful budding career that I loved! Ron Paul 2012

It's all about the Ministry teaching from Scofield's

Reference Bible, which pormotes Apostacy. This anti-Christian teaching is destroying our moral compass, and virtually making Chritians into follwers of Judaism. I'm a former evangelical Zionist, and have spent many hours researching this brainwashing blashemy being spewed from the pulpits. Here is an excellent documentary on the 'Roots of Christian Zionism' http://vimeo.com/29901084

I have received Chuck's newsletters for several years, now. But, I have never heard him talk about Zionism or Scofield's Reference Bible. I am going to email him, and call him out on this blatant failure. As a minister of the Word of Christ, it's his duty to 'speak the truth, as the truth will set you free'. The question being, is he going to stand up to the 'Pharisees' or is he going to hide (the Truth)?

Talk about throwing fellow

Talk about throwing fellow Christians to the lions....

Perhaps you might first consider that he may be unaware of the connection (as many are).

Chuck ran for President under the Constitution Party banner...

...in the year I used their party to get on the ballot in the general election for a 3rd party run because I was a David Barton/Wallbuilders follower and that stuff was too right-wing for the County Republican Party I was in(but of course they ATE it all up and associated themselves with it once he was on Huckabee and then Glenn Back).

After my stunt was over; moving on with them for a few months like an incensed Christian conservative Republican, I thought I was among "like-minded believers" - but soon found myself cast out because I dared to bring up certain areas of idolatry that occurs in Catholocism - because I was calling former Constitution Party Alan Keyes an opportunist for going to Notre Dame, holding half a banner of Mary(she is not a deity who offers salvation), protesting Obama coming there...and I was branded a divisive religious bigot and sent packing...

For a group of outraged conservative Constiutionalists who study so much of good government, and the founding documents that forged our nation; you think they'd be smart enough not to submit to men and organizations who are just feet of clay. Why would Newt Gingrich convert from being a fundamentalist Southern Baptist to being a Catholic? Why would former Baptist PASTOR Mike Huckabee DENY the Genesis account of the Creation to Wolf Blitzer when asked directly in a Presidential debate?

So what; the church leadership has display many seminary degrees on - the rewards of men - SO WHAT??? Obama is a constitutional lawyer for crying out loud!!! Why are Christians following MEN, and not Christ?

Undue respect for unbiblical authority...that is WHY much of this country doesn't have the guts to change the system - they think it's not our place to do so! Once another professing Christian, especially of fame or in a position of presumed leadership, loses their credibility with the basic tenets of the faith - call them out on it; and if they will not reason - shame that person...

It is our place to do so, as much as it was the founders place to do so because we can READ and draw conclusions and debate too; you just have to walk away from them, and enter into this arena and speak out against the hypocrisy and the tyranny!

There is nothing wrong with "order" or leadership...but there is something wrong when a person won't debate, entertain another point of view; and they do so by lording their INTELLECT and accomplished degrees over you....we're ALL sinners, obviously any man of great achievement can have secret besetting sins(such as self-worship) - that will spill over and show up as a lack of discernment, hypocrisy, temper, or spiritual blindness.

Cut off that branch so new fruit can grow!

The deliberate Marxist tanking of this economy through political cronyism and moral compromise, in pursuit of the love of money carrot-and-stick approach(Federal Reserve bubble)cost me and my family a successful budding career that I loved! Ron Paul 2012

Thanks for posting

This article was well-written and should be thought provoking for anyone who claims the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God. I wish this message were being preached from the pulpit of every bible-believing church in this country!

When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. - Patrick Henry

another great article from chuck. send links or printed copies

http://www.dailypaul.com/208458/chuck-baldwin-newt-gingrich-...

this was a good article by chuck too. i suggest everyone print copies of both and pass them out to as many people as possible, or send the links to both to people who you know their email address.

nr

Ron Paul: Christian Just War Theory

Ron Paul: Christian Just War Theory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dyyd4rcuZc

I love Chuck Baldwin!He nails it right on the head every time!The above video needs to be sent out to everyone!That video everyone is my President Ron Paul!

For the neocons, "Just" means only.

For the civilized, "Just" means lawful.

The antidote

From the article: "we Christians should be on our knees begging God to forgive and mend us"

From scripture: "if my people, who belong to me, humble themselves, pray, seek to please me, and repudiate their sinful practices, then I will respond from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14)

America is in her present condition because the Christian churches have fallen into apostasy and have committed spiritual fornication with their idols of the heart chief of which is the State of Israel. There have been revelations given that He will destroy this idol in order to awaken them to their spiritual adultery.

If this is indeed what happens then no-one will inherit the "holy" land. It will be uninhabitable, contaminated by nuclear radiation for many years to come.

"Where the Welfare State is on the march the Police State is not far behind."

Melchior Palyi Hungarian Economist

Amen!

As a follower of Christ, I am going to post this article far and wide as facebook will let me.

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Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.

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As an indifferent on religion

To me there are two gods only one of which can be loved.
Income and Neighbor.

I choose Neighbor because I value my life.

Isn't Jesus the Prince of Peace?

It's almost unbelievable how so many of my fellow Christians can support these horrible wars. What ever happened to "blessed are the peacemakers"?

I tried to reason with one Chrisian friend on Yahoo Answers...she basically seems to think that we need to kill all the Muslims. But when Jesus said "love thy neighbor as thyself", He meant Muslims too! The user has since removed me from her Contacts list (she supports Santorum and really hates Ron Paul and does not give any reason why).

"They pray to Jesus but pull the war chariots of Satan" ~Alex Jones

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -Thomas Jefferson
My blog: http://anna4ronpaul.wordpress.com/

Christians that aren't

As a true believer I can say with confidence that very similiar to the way that most "conservatives" are not, most "Christians" and even "churches" quite frankly are not. The good news is that when you find the real deal it is obvious just how far they are off. Some, albiet few, still preach the truth, both politicans and churches. Good for Chuck!! (and Voddie Bauchan, etc)

Hah, most Christ-'followers'

Hah, most Christ-'followers' can't so little as keep their legs closed until marriage (i.e the most fundamental and basic family value there is). And this is something which would solve almost all of their relationship problems overnight if accomplished.

In fact, because not having pre-marital sex isn't a religious concept, that would make them far worse than everyone else. But who am I preachin' to? Their beliefs can easily be bought apparently, as can nearly all of humanity's when nearly the entire country owns debt or lives paycheck-to-paycheck, a concept, like pre-marital sex, that was non-existant or very limited only a handful of decades ago.

Truly I say, truly ( truely= amen from the Arimaic )

Thank you Pastor for saying boldly what I've know for decades. " that on that day many shall say Lord, Lord." But Jesus will say " get away from me you worker of inequity I never knew you !"
They shall say " didn't I cast out demons in your name? Didn't I heal the sick in your name?" and those who say these words have already shown WHY the Lord doesn't know them in those statements. Are you the Lords? Can you see what Jesus has shown us as to where these statements can not come from anyone serving GOD ?
I'm not even suprised anymore by the volume of so called believers, I've been to seventeen different Christian denominations in my lifetime, and only a few handfuls of people live faith.
Too many people defend doctrines of men, and not the word of GOD, and it's those who do who vote there freedoms given by our creator away like it's tripe. And it's those who do, boo GOD's laws thinking they serve GOD.
BTW the answer to my question is " I " . There is no "I" in serving GOD, it's all about HIM.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

Thank you for this.

Our book club of 12 years came to an end Tuesday night over exactly this issue. We were discussing the Dixie Chicks film, "Shut Up and Sing" regarding the blowback the group received after making an off-the-cuff remark about President Bush back in 2003.
Despite the fact that the Chicks were completely vindicated in the court of public opinion as the country came to agree that the Iraq war was a mistake, several women in the group still held an almost "witch hunt" mentality with regards to the Chicks' having a right to speak out. These are gals I've know for a long time, and their small-minded venomous stance absolutely shocked me. No matter what argument I offered, they self-righteously took the stance that you have to "support the troops" no matter what, and by "their" standard.
It was a very uncomfortable breaking up, but honestly, it is a relief to be rid of that unnatural "groupthink" type of coercion. I may send them this article. At this point, I don't really care to know them any longer anyway, as that mindset is a bit frightening to me.

The answer to his questions

The answer to his questions is simple: most people who call themselves "Christians" simply are not Christians at all. The term "Christian" literally means "little Christs". It was a derogatory term given by enemies of the early church because of their imitation of that crazy man, Jesus Christ (sound a little familiar?). The nickname was adopted by the church itself because they fully embraced the charge -- they wanted to be little Christs, following the footsteps of their savior.

The fact is that most people in America today do not want to imitate Christ, but they look at Christianity as a form of fire insurance or even just a type of social club that makes them feel good. They know nothing about what it means to be a disciple of Jesus Christ and to take up their cross and follow Him.

Yes, a Fire Insurance Policy

sad but true. I am 30 now. Spent my days seeking the truth. Jesus touched me with His Holy Spirit and a fresh anointing in 2002. I couldn't stop sharing my faith and remained a virgin. I was so much in the spirit. I got my first real girlfriend at the age of 28 and got in the flesh again...no I remained pure, but satan lied to me that I was ugly and wouldn't be able to please her. I ended up fighting demons (many of which I saw with my own eyes. It's funny how they look like aliens.. they aren't aliens) and ended up in a mental hospital. They wanted to put me on Prozac and all these other drugs because they didn't believe I was fighting demons. I quoted the Psalms at the hospital all day and even prayed for other patients. I battled for 3 weeks and feared for my soul because satan lied to me again that I committed the unforgivable sin and that was why all the evil came against me. It was all lies. I sang to God and He delivered me. I went home free. The next morning I was sitting on the living room couch (completely exhausted)and God touched my head and my left shoulder (I felt Him physically touch me) He anointed me more and filled me with unspeakable joy. I went out in the yard and sang Hallelujah thank you Lord for about 3 hours. An angel sang with me. I never heard an angel until that day.. it sounded as pure as a wind chime and sang in a high pitch whistle tone. It was louder than my own voice. God has spoken to me in many dreams and prophecies. This battle lasted a month, but it was only 5% of the next battle I went through. I just overcame the next battle. I am in the 22nd month of that battle that just ended on 2/2/12 and my first nephew was born yesterday 2/3. God's timing is amazing. He anointed me again and all I want to do is travel the world and preach the gospel even if it means staying a pure and single man. I did much for Ron Paul, but Babylon will fall. Only Jesus will stop the NWO with his glorious 2nd coming. I'm sorry for those who believe it, but there is no pre-trib rapture. Memorize Psalm 91 and get ready. I will focus on preaching the truths of God and salvation. Be ready to be killed for His name's sake.

“I don't think we should go to the moon. I think we maybe should send some politicians up there.” -Ron Paul

www.youtube.com/ronpaultunes
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Luke writes

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Good for Chuck

Another, like Ron Paul, who lives by his beliefs.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs