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NYT: Wearing Guns, and Support for Ron Paul, on Their Hips

"...The other was attending a court hearing to answer charges he faced stemming from a confrontation with sheriff’s deputies in which he was subdued with a Taser.

He said he had been reaching for a small copy of the Constitution that he keeps with him; the deputies said he appeared to be going for the other thing he carries on his person: his .45-caliber pistol, according to an account of his arrest in the local paper."

LOL! The Denizens of Pahrump, NV = My kinda People.o)

“This country is becoming a police state,” he added. “If Ron Paul doesn’t get elected, we’re history.”

How True, How True indeed!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/us/politics/pahrump-nev-we...

Wearing Guns, and Support for Ron Paul, on Their Hips

By RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr.
Published: February 2, 2012

PAHRUMP, Nev. — On rare occasions, when a brave — or foolish — local official here proposes banning firearms from government buildings or meetings, he is met with howls of protests by sidearm-wearing residents who pack public hearings. Shocked tourists on the way to Death Valley periodically call the local sheriff’s office to report someone wearing a pistol in plain view. That is their right, they are told.

This is a town — unincorporated, to be sure — where many folks have little need for much government, whether manifested by permits, stop signs, gun regulations or anything that would threaten Pahrump’s brothels. That goes for surrounding Nye County as well, which is more than twice the size of New Jersey but is home to only 44,000 residents, mostly in Pahrump.

This is the heart of Ron Paul country, the one county in Nevada that the 76-year-old congressman from Texas carried in the 2008 Republican caucuses, and a place that wears its libertarianism proudly...



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I lived in Reno for quite a

I lived in Reno for quite a few years and went to college at the University of Nevada in Reno. Some of my good friends I made in college are from Pahrump. I've actually been there twice, and it is defintely a place where you could say people do not have much "necessity" for government. Anyways, the town itself sucks because it is in the middle of a desert, but everyone I've met from it are great people. And yes, they are all very gun friendly!

Comments of pure hatred

Did anyone catch the comments section on this article?

The authoritarian East/West Coasties are completely besides themselves, and seem to only be comforted with spewing the predictably banal drivel of half-truths, suppositions, and hatred.

I hope that they love the enslavement that they are setting up and promoting for themselves and their children. Don't come crying to us when "they" chainsaw down your front door, shoot your dogs, and detain your little girl in the other room for 35 mins until "they" figure out that your the wrong person at the wrong address.

Terry Gilliam's movie "Brazil" (1985) is happening right in front of our eyes, and these ignorant morons are clamoring for more of it!

OMG! That film is a trip!

Brazil, and Zardoz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz always bugs me out.

Yeah I know what you mean about NYT comment section.

actually their comment section is typically much worse than 'lesser rags' as the air of condescension in their tone is beyond vomit-worthy.

there's only so much delusional moron-a-minute who conflate the ability to QWERTY and regurgitate Paul Krud-man as real 'knowledge,' that any sane critically thinking person can tolerate in a single afternoon.

I click on Politico comment section for laughs, neocon blog comment sections to vent or just read to intentionally get worked up, and check in with RawStory.com comment section whenever I feel the petty need to feel smarter, and good about myself.o)

NYT & WaPo comment sections, I never bother reading. they're completely pointless. at least with others, there's always a bit of a bloodsport aspect to it, which at least makes it bemusing. NYT/WaPo reek too much of boorish opera and z-grade actors pretending to be Oscar worthy; for me way too stomach in a single sitting.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

There is a particular scene

There is a particular scene in Brazil, in which a black-clad "law enforcement" goon squad crash through an old woman's ceiling on repelling ropes and murder her innocent husband in cold blood. She is then issued a bureaucratic receipt for the incident.

This is about the state of affairs we find ourselves in right now.

I have to laugh...

...Here in Texas, regardless of what one's political views are, most agree on one thing; 'society is safer when it's armed'. Though George Bush is a weenie, he did sign the Concealed Weapons Bill when he was governor and crime went down almost overnight!
East/West liberals don't have a clue.
A coworker from New York complained to me about people in Texas being paranoid and carrying guns all the time. I asked him,
"Did you feel safe walking the streets at night in NYC?"
"No way!" he replied.
"Do you feel safe walking around Houston at night?"
"Sure, I guess." he said.
"Then what the hell is your point?"
Everyone knows that the cops only show up 30 minutes AFTER a crime. 'To serve and protect?' Really? How does that work? Protect YOURSELF. (from criminals AND tyrants)

"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"- Homer Simpson

"Shocked tourists"

idiots...

probably from

LA or NYC.

OMG! Look ma, Free People of Nevada, doing what freemen do, gotta call the local au-tho-ri-teh!

lol.

ever notice how the most venomously policestate-like cities are almost always, without fail are liberal cities, with liberal mayors, as seen during at G20 in Pittsburgh, NYC, Chicago, Miami, or the current batch of batSh*t copthuggery in cities like Oakland against the OWS people?

Hypocrisy! gee... er... duh... what's that?

this is why I always say that occasional a-holes are always more predictable than the 'quiet ones.'

those who aren't used to power, or 'nice' person who have rarely dealt with 'difficult people' on a regular basis, have very little capacity for empathy once events become dynamic: it's always the people who don't vent occasionally, who are the ones that go postal.

Oakland Mayor Jean Quan is supposedly a community organizer and liberal activist from Berkeley. Now, she's become synonymous with the most brutal of dictatorships. Her copthugs are absolutely out of control.

Then again, considering the warcriminal and murderer-in-chief oBomBa was also a "community organizer" Quan and her copthugs overreaction shouldn't come as a surprise. oh and then there's the whole Statist thing, whose only solution is violence. Guess anything with govt turning brutal and violent is a given, so none of what's happening should come as a surprise.

never mind.o)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I

..dig the Cartman accent on 'authority'. hehe

Re

"...ever notice how the most venomously policestate-like cities are almost always, without fail are liberal cities, with liberal mayors..."

Absolutely - without fail. Progressive liberalism can not exist without police state.

Btw - I like your Avatar pic :) . Is that some sort of a snubby 1911 or what ?

yup, it's because they don't feel the need to protect

themselves. it's always the 'peace of mind that someone ELSE is doing what needs to be done, for them,' is the case with the 'progressive' mindset. and, any and all violence, as long as it's justified in the name of some nebulously arbitrary 'greater good,' no amount of personal sacrifice or violation of individual liberties is enough for them.

thanks, on the avatar. It's based on an Officer-sized Ed Brown BobTail w/Picatinny LightRail: 7~8rd mag full-sized grip length, 4" barrel, made by Wilson Combat.

http://wilsoncombat.com/new/handgun-cqb-lightrail-lightweigh...

Though at $3205, there are other options, obviously without all the bells and whistles, high-quality craftsmanship, attention to detail (Bill Wilson was a jeweler/watchmaker by trade), hand-lapped slide to receiver fit, accuracy, reliability, etc:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Produc...

http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/super-carry/super-carry-cu...
http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/super-carry/super-carry-pr...
http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/super-carry/super-carry-pro

but she's an undeniable beauty though, no? ooh... ahh...
plus, you can never have too many 1911's! lol

But, they are ALL copies of the Ed Brown's original BobTail. Wilson either licenses it or uses his frames. Kimber is an outright knock-off; I await to hear Ed Brown suing them. Plus, guess with high demand, lately I've been hearing and seeing quality control issues with Kimbers.

And, S&W is sorta the affordable combo of them all: lightweight Scandium (light as aluminum but stronger) frame, with "fishscales" instead of Ed Brown's "snakeskin" and less of a rounded butt than the Kimber, but don't have the cockable/rackable rear sights so in vogue now. Overall though, S&W seems to be the best of all worlds, with great warranty with a company you know will be around for a long time to come. And, has almost every feature I personally want in a 1911!

But, my personal preference for the type of cocking serration is on the original Ed Brown Kobra Carry:

http://edbrown.com/kobracarry.htm
http://edbrown.com/kobracarrylw.htm

My ideal would be a Scandium (except, for now it's a S&W exclusive) version of the Wilson Combat/Ed Brown Bobtail frame with Picatinny Rail (with a slightly slimmer profile without messing with the rail spacing), with Ed Brown Kobra scales on mainspring housing, the front of the grip, top of the slide, and slant-patterned Kobra-scale slide cocking serrations on both front and rear, like the Kimber version, with counter sunk slidestop, also like on the Kimber, with Crimson Laser built into Wilson Combat Starburst pattern G10 grips.

Frankly, I'm pretty certain that Wilson Combat will have a CrimsonLaser for Bobtail with that exact option, soon

http://www.crimsontrace.com/products/manufacturer/1911-pisto...

But, my personal philosophy is that all fighting pistols should be a tool: I shouldn't have to worry about getting it scratched, dropping it, slamming it, throwing it, or worrying about protruding thumb safeties that either snag or break off under dynamic stress, etc.

Frankly though, while my 1st love will always be a 1911, and as much as I have an affinity for the 1911, what counts is reliability, simplicity, accuracy, and one that's light enough to carry daily without worries. And while I hate how ugly they are, the only thing that currently fits that criteria for me right now, is a Glock19 (9mm).

Besides, no one complains about more B-B's, except the bad guys.o) And, with modern ammo, shot placement really is always the key; rarely are assailants stopped with a single shot, at least not with most handgun calibers.

If your chief concern is a weapon-mount light, nowadays, almost all manufacturers have an option to attach without the Picatinny lightrails, too. Even Crimson trace just came out with a very small, trigger guard mounted light for 1911's at this yr's SHOT show in Vegas.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/01/28/crimson-trace-...

If you're in the market for a new M1911, you should definitely check out the S&W E-Series Bobtail. It looks like the it's a really reliable piece, for a production gun.

http://10-8performance.blogspot.com/2011/05/s-e-series-2000-...

Hilton Yam is an active Miami PD SWAT commander and one of the most respected tactical gurus around, and a very highly regarded 1911 gunsmith, to boot. S&W actually sent their 1911's to be torture tested by him.

Hey, guns are the only manufacturing we got left in America. might as well support them. lol

uh, I just realized how long this post became. Yup, I'm a certifiable gun nut.o) lol

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Nice

Sweet piece - but at that price it's a little bit out of my league :(. Plus - I agree with you - it's a tool. I don't want a gold-studded bejeweled thing that I m afraid to scratch. Thanks for all the info on 1911 stuff - I definitely am in the market for 1911, actually been for a while - I love the trigger on it as well as the looks. But a few months back I had the money and decided to get an AR-15 instead (already have a glock 21 in 45 ACP, so I figured I can wait a bit with 1911). But next one will definitely be 1911 so I'll review all your links - thanks again !

I love hearing 2cd amendment stories like this.

If more people who could carry, did, society might be less knee-jerks about it. Hell it might also elicit some red blooded American Constitutional pulses to start registering again too.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Except for the damned heat,

Except for the damned heat, it sounds like God's country.

Pahrump, Nevada Elevation is

Pahrump, Nevada Elevation is 2,697 ft - Somewhere around there.

It will/can snow in the winter, gets kinda hot in the summer.

I live about 200 miles north of it, at elevation 5000', and we get COLD in the winter. Can snow every month but Aug/Sept, it might hail in those months. Snow doesn't stick around long, but it still does it.

Summers rarely (2-3x a year) break 100F. Record low -45F.

Unfortunately this county is not as Paulian as NYE, but it's pretty good. Cops are nice (leave you alone), crime is nil (too many guns.) Petty stuff happens (steal something in your yard/domestics), otherwise nothing.

Pahrump is just bigger and flatter. Add 12 F to the temps for Pahrump, except for the low.

Blah.

is it really that hot up there? from

what I could find out, it seems to be a more moderate high desert country, with underground well water sources.

never been there, but from all that I've been able to find out about the place, seems a lot like N. AZ, & a bit more 4-seasonal than its lower half of the State.

besides, if the actual climatologists are right, there's gonna be a global COOLING: better to be in warmer climates that's rugged and hard to conquer surrounded by people with similar 'leave me the F alone' attitude, when SHTF.o)

sounds like it's the NV version of N.AZ "militia country." Plus it's home to Art Bell, the founder of Coast to Coast AM. that always brings out an interesting demographic.

the Idaho R3VOL mentioned in the article who drove down to support the Doc, isn't too surprising, either. Idaho is home of James Wesley Rawles & many survivalist/prepper community. http://www.survivalblog.com/index.html

Oh yeah, definitely R3VOL country there.o)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

The last I heard about James

The last I heard about James Wesley Rawles, was that he was trying to setup a kind of community in Idaho, but he didn't want any of those Atheist Libertarians; because he believes that the community should be based on Christ. Not too much freedom. JWR happens to be an evangelical with a small government mindset; just not as small of government as most of us would want.

I'm not sure if he would want laws against "sins" or not, maybe that's why he wants only Christians in the community he wants to setup. This way he wouldn't have to worry about "sin" shops being setup i.e. prostitution, drugs, etc.

Plus, if you think he doesn't like control, just look at the Survival Blog; the only way to get anything on there is if you first send it to him via email, he will then read it - maybe - and if he reads it and approves of it, he just might post it. JWR likes complete control of the message; I guess freedom of speech is not one of his favorite amendments. Like I said, he would rather build a community on the 'Ten Commandments' then the Ten Amendments. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with that, but it is not an entirely inclusive idea. Nor, does it truly follow the teachings of Christ; never remember reading that Jesus wanted to use the force of government or community to ban anything, but rather would speak to and with sinners to try and convince them of the error of their ways, and to convert them into followers of 'Christianity'.

I'm not a fan of JWS, if you couldn't tell. I like his books and the blog, for the most part, but his philosophy leaves a lot to be desired; quite a lot of exclusion not much inclusion.

I usually read stuff like that strictly for info,

there ain't a single person I've come across that shares my philosophy through and through. then again, who agrees with everything or most of what one stands for? Okay, so the Doc actually comes close. But he's a "Black Swan," a sane anomaly in an insane world.

but much like any private property, I have no problem with him being a 'control freak' about what goes on, on his site: it is his, after all.

also, as far as the notion of 'unit cohesion,' while it's an anathema to libertarians and AnCaps, as it's still a collectivist notion, but by stretch so would any organizing around a common ideal.

though, for philosophic neophytes who 'fear' the use of the word "we" and conflate it automatically with "collectivism," some nuance is in order.

"collectivism" is only 'collectivism,' when the non-existent 'goal of the group' supersedes that of individual rights, and the group grants itself power to exert their will via force, based on the rationale of 'for the betterment of the group,' where they believe rights originate from the very existence of the group.

but under such misunderstood logic, all forms of ideology and culture would be classified as 'collectivism,' which obviously is not always necessarily true.

so the type of scenario in which JWR has always been concerned with: post-SHTF world, there's no doubt, a community would be much more peaceful and easier to survive together without someone who is not a Christian... in a Christian community.

But, that would be no different than having an AnCap community with a hardcore socialist who expects everyone else to 'pay their fair share,' without ever contributing himself, or violently expects something for free, or seeks to impose his will.

A voluntary association, at its core IS the very definition of "discrimination."

To discriminate in its radical(root word) sense means to distinguish, and or make good judgment.

So, if you have friends that you are close with, like blood siblings, you frankly had a choice of 7 billion. You just discriminated against 7 billion others. So I'm not too bothered with the notion that he 'discriminates' against non-christians. That's entirely his prerogative and well within his rights.

I'm not a religious, but spiritual and believe in a large force in the universe, that I personally believe would be far too arrogant of me to label to fit into a box. now, but while I LOVE my Christian brothers and sisters, and any person of Faith, the minute they seek to impose their will on me, based upon their beliefs, as the basis for it, we're gonna part ways.

But hey, let me know if you know of any Anarcho-Capitalist whose curiosity of the Universe runs somewhere between Zen Buddhism, Vedic Scriptures, Graham Hancock, Rick Strassman, Terence McKenna, respects Entheogens/DMT as a spiritual ritual path but not recreational drugs, Remote Viewing, quantum mechanics, limited nano-tech, zero-point energy independence, to Spinoza, Coptic, Essene Christians, and Nassim Haramein/Rodin toroidal numerical system, who also loves guns, who loves the notion of acquiring basic skills to restart an entire civilization if need be, is an omnivore, and seeks an entire community keen on learning, practicing and living Ninjutsu or other combatives and survival skills, while knowing how to put self defense and beauty in an overarching peaceful paradigm of a living life philosophy, and seeks individual growth and enlightenment, all the while stressing cultural growth, arts and beauty, let me know. lol

And, if you're a hot single lady reading this, Tweet me.o)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I was hoping you were a hot

I was hoping you were a hot single lady; damn it. From the last paragraph, I thought I was reading something which I had written. Not so sure about living the Ninjutsu lifestyle though. I don't think I have ever met an individual with so many of my particular interests ever; and I have met some very interesting people, but you sir are so similar to myself, at least in your written description of your interests, it is truly frightening.

Speaking of the Rodin Toroidal Number System/Rodin Coil; I thought it was quite interesting how Hewlett Packard Labs tested and confirmed that the coil produced more energy on the output then it took in via the input and they were not interested in it. Then again, HP Labs also discovered fantastical results when they tested the Mitchell-Hedges crystal skull and they had no interest in doing more tests on that either.

But anyway, drawing from your statements earlier it would seem to suggest that you would be perfectly fine with the U.S. deporting all who don't agree with the founding premise of the U.S. for 'unit cohesion' purposes. Furthermore, if Christians truly followed the teachings of Christ they would find themselves more easily living with atheist libertarians then anybody else. The only thing which would separate the two, would be the belief in 'God,' which is no small difference but the basic lifestyle would be the same.

JWR, seems to want more of a cult, which obviously would be following him, then he wants an actually community. Even the Amish interact with average people daily; in some places living virtually right next door, and they seem to have less a problem with it then JWR's does.

I do agree it is his prerogative to be a tyrant on his blog, and to be exclusive to whom he would want in that community; but at the same time he shouldn't be trying to make it sound that he is the most fair and even minded person on the planet either. He shouldn't say that the community would be a survival community, because it wouldn't; It would be a neo-Christian community which also happens to believe in survival skills and such. By neo-Christians I am referring to those who claim to believe in the teachings of Jesus, but they just don't follow them completely; apparently neo-Christians know more than the "son of God" does. Neo-Christians would also be the more accurate label for those "Christians" who boo the golden rule.

Anyway, it was very nice to meet an individual whom it would seem I have more in common with than nearly, if not entirely, everybody else for whom I have met.

now if you are a Capricorn, it'd be too creepy, lol

thanks for the sentiments. yup, there are many more like the way we think than one may realize. though, without internet, it'd far more difficult for those like us to interact.

That said, when one assumes a stranger's thought process to fit one's a-priori presumptions, then leaping to a conclusion based on an erroneously presumptive extraction, it can only yield a recipe for disaster; you're drawing erroneous conclusion about me here:

"But anyway, drawing from your statements earlier it would seem to suggest that you would be perfectly fine with the U.S. deporting all who don't agree with the founding premise of the U.S. for 'unit cohesion' purposes."

When I specified "unit cohesion," I was talking about it from JWR's probable concerns, as a military vet, a Christian, and a survivalist, and from info that he made public about himself over time and the tenor in which he answers his online forum members' concerns, and what I'm able to gauge about him from all that.

Also, I was talking about what one would value within the immediacy of his community in a post-SHTF apocalyptic scenario, which JWR is mainly concerned with, not what US Gvt's deportation policy would be. Frankly, under JWR's scenario, by then, they'd de facto cease to exist anyway. So, it'd be a moot point.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Come out in droves

Nevada, we gotta take this one!!!!

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Yes! Yes! Yes!

We CAN take Nevada, and WIN it for the Doc and the R3VOLution!

Even if he comes in a competitive 2nd, like Iowa, as a Caucus state, NV is practically in the bag!

But still, for the RINO charlatans, our bragging right of a real outright win, will open more eyes, more grassroots and financial support from general GOP populace, and most importantly, momentum, and put a damper in 'every candidate in the race has won a state, except Ron Paul'-BS!

A GOLD victory in NV, R3VOL!

You can do it!!!

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

updated

with a few minor format tweaks...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul