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Paulites, A Moment Of Truth, Is Ron Paul Our Modern Day Messiah? A forerunner maybe?

Fight for freedom has eluded every generation. Now we can put it in context. In Plato's Five Dialogues there is an argument about pious. What is it? Euthyphro fails to explain it to Socrates.

If he is a Messiah, then we can look for what Messiah of our time thus even the fore runner of the Messiah should look like.

You will be surprised how he fits the bill.

Paulites, educate them...

That's my point I know he is not the ONE, but educate others on who he is in our times, where he fits in our world history.

Keep it coming I like the enthusiasm.

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No offense...but it is shit

No offense...but it is shit like this thread that gives Ron Paul and his followers a bad name. He is a fucking politician. Nothing more. A messiah? What an embarrassing post for you to make.

O Jesus Christ... He is not Jesus Christ.

ixnay on the religious BS will ya?

There is one good thing about Marx: he was not a Keynesian. - Murray Rothbard

Reason is nothing less than the guardian of love. - Sam Harris

The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. ― Neil deGrasse Tyson

Ron Paul as Beacon.

a guiding light, elevated, for safety of travelers, that even warns of dangers. A faithful man gifted with a spark, that is lighting up many hearts. A man for the gold standard, and lives by the Golden Rule, reminds the Ten Commandments, the universal message & Wisdom of the ancients.
Say to & ask all sane men & women who inhabit this Earth, that = in this world of free thought and speech - what inhibits you/us from recalling, reciting, reminding or mentioning what the Creator-Lord has sent to you.
This is a strange attitude towards Knowledge. The Lord sends His Messages & Mercy to you in many ways, to your senses, & through known symbols. He even sent messengers, sons of Adam, men like yourselves, to deliver, teach & follow the Guidance, noted carefully by scribes & friends.
Religions survive because man has instincts, hunger, fears for survival, also desires & inner quests, - now who can deny this vital need for Signs. Satan, enemy of Adam's family plays its vile tricks on these grounds.
Be ready, read. Our Lord is the most For-Giving, fear not His messages, but fear deviating and falling into error or in'jury. Bring out & read your Book, to clear the clouds in your mind, gradually, the Light will dawn on you. Trust your heart, its started to dawn on some that Dawn is drawing near.

Revelation 3:8, = Keep My Word, do Not deny My Name.
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I hate to even encourage this

I hate to even encourage this discussion with a response, but I need to say that any comparison between Ron Paul and the Biblical prophets or (heaven-forbid) to Jesus the Christ needs to be ANALOGOUS at best.

That is to say, clearly Ron Paul is not a religious prophet, for a slew of reasons, the most important of which being that there are no more religious prophets, because Jesus has already fulfilled his redemptive work here on Earth. It is even more ludicrous to call him a messiah, since that is a role that can only be filled by one person, and Christians believe that person to be Jesus of Nazareth.

Now, I do think that in a strictly secular sense, you could call Dr. Paul prophetic, in that he is rejected by the mainstream and has predicted significant future events, and "preaches" a consistent message. But messiah? Come on, let's remember that this movement is political, and it deals with the things of THIS world.

Also, to give myself a little credibility, I study Theology and Biblical Studies at Wheaton College.

"The principle can be established that for a man who does not cheat, what he believes to be true must determine his action."
-- Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus

If I Can Say

I grew up reading the bible and I still do. Biblical prophets were mostly economic prophets. Obey God, Obey his laws and you will have success. Old testament does not promise heaven as much as it talks about Jerusalem here on earth. Everything in the bible every prophet you can read was about economics and yes moral values and ethics, and spiritual values are all connected.

See if there was a prophet today,he would tell us the same things that Ron Paul said in his 2002 speech, A prophet would tell us "What If". We have money makers in the church now.

Biblical prophets were judged by what they said, and they way they lied their lives. Maybe you are right, he is not a biblical prophet, but if he is not, then what qualifies to be one?

Not, until you Say - -

tab, thanks for raising a very valid question for our times, in the last line, because mankind is neglecting, is forgetful or ignorant, therefore needs reminders. See Biblical quote -
Passage Matthew 23:37-39:
37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones the messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn’t let me. 38 And now, look, your house is abandoned and desolate.[a] 39 For I tell you this, you will never see me again until you say, ‘Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the LORD!’

You will notice here, the emphasis is on The Name.

Revelation 3:8, = Keep My Word, do Not deny My Name.
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Meaby ....

The white widow is NOT for you.

ha!

niiiiiiiiccccccccce.

Yea ...

sometimes there are reasons why they say start slow ....

Is Ron Paul a "Messiah"...?

-_-

For fks sake plz STOP...NOW.

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Nope

Just a man. So are you. So am I.

Let's take some inspiration from the man, pick up the load, and carry it forward. He won't save us. We'll save ourselves.

You are right

Just a man, so was every other prophet except Jesus Christ.

I challenge you to see what qualifies as a prophet, its there in the bible, and you look at Ron Paul's life. Do it yourself with an open mind.

Just so you know, John The Baptist was a prophet. But he was never called one because he was know as a Baptist. It is the way he lives his life that was prophetic.

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Come on dude. Snap out of it.

Come on dude. Snap out of it.

Quick! He's not looking...

...stash that bong where he can't find it! Someone open a window. You, Judy! Run and get him a glass of water...I tried to tell him before...and now look...Jeez...are these kids ever gonna learn that the Red Jamaican Sensimilla causes fully involved messianic delusions?

“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest”

-Denis Diderot

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LOL. That's why I quit

LOL. That's why I quit smoking years ago. Couldn't find any that good. Might have to reconsider my decision.

no i think

he DID quit maybe. that's the problem.

LOL!

Methinks you are on to something...

“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest”

-Denis Diderot

OMG Stop Comparing Ron Paul to Jesus

I mean he's cool and everything but Jesus never hit a homer in the annual congressional baseball game. :P

Dr. Paul is no Messiah...

He is just a man that speaks the truth, and has principles, and integrity, and that is why I am supporting him. He believes in America, and our Constitution.

Is he a modern day Messiah?

No he is not. If you think that you are missing the point entirely. The point is his message. He is an agent of truth. His legacy through time will be comparable to Ghandi, John Lennon, Kennedy, or even Jesus. Now don't get mad, I'm not saying he is Jesus. Ron Paul supporters don't worship Dr. Paul. We admire him for his incorruptibility. We respect him for his intelligence, his accomplishments, the family he is patriarch of, and his amazing commitment to the cause of liberty as reflected in his career as a Congressman, not to mention those 4000 babies he delivered. We appreciate his common sense, such as a golden rule foreign policy, one of mutual respect. We agree with him that a competing currency, an audit and then an actual end to the Fed is the right path. We trust that he is not acting out of self interest but that he is truly interested in restoring Liberty to the land of the free. We like him because he is genuine, and he sort of reminds us of the atypical wise grandfather. We are very loyal to him, once the scales fall from your eyes, you cannot unlearn the truth, and once you realize the import of what the good Dr. is trying to achieve and just how right he is, you've entered what I like to call the "Paulitical Zone." It's not "Politics" anymore baby! It's "Paulatics", and it's very addictive. This is an intellectual revolution, it is not a religious revolution. He is not our swami, messiah, or king. He is a man telling the truth, and trying to change the course of history. His vision would restore America to that shining example of freedom for the world to see. An example worthy of emulation. Come to think of it, may be he is the messiah.

Wow..that is just as silly.

Wow..that is just as silly. Ron Paul's legacy will not be anything like Jesus' legacy. Do you really think 2000 years from now they will be talking about him?

IF so...you honestly have to come back to planet Earth. I don't know where you live, but sooner or later if you want to rejoin society, you have to come back.

..."come to think of it, maybe he is a messiah"...

Derp

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"I always win"
http://youtu.be/Xtl2ZuJpG9M
+GOLD and SILVER are money+
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThisIsRogueLiberty

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An honest man naturally reflects the positive.

Messiah no, prophet maybe. God certainly gives him the words when he needs them.

Have you ever seen someone take apart pundit talking points so thoroughly and completely in one to two or three simple sentences...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN_sPAJMt6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K2pLo8JV5Y

Wow. Ron Paul 2012.

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"Religious people fear hell...
...Spiritual people (including our Savior) have lived it." -my friend

Leave Us Alone and Bring the Troops Home

First you should provide the context to which you speak

Do you mean biblical messiah? Or a more mundane constitutional one?
Biblically speaking, and I have some small knowledge on the subject, Ron is NOT the messiah as that position was filled long ago in the person of Jesus Christ. Nor do I find correlation to Ron's being a biblical messenger or prophet applicable under any scrutiny. Being that Ron's message is fundamentally secular and not scriptural nor GOD specific in topic he can't be considered for a prophet, at least not biblically.
So unless you reference Ron Paul as being a fully secular messiah in terms of reaffirmation of American constitutional rule of law, or a predecessor to someone whom is I find the application of the term "Messiah" inappropriate.
Additionally, I think that if asked in person what he felt, Ron might say something like this " my message is important, but I'm just a messenger.". But on this I merely offer conjecture based upon the humility we see Ron practice daily.

Ron Paul 2012

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

I beg to differ.

going back to the argument between Socrates and Euthypyro About pious.

All I am asking is list the requirements from a biblical point of view and see if Dr. Paul did not meet them. Because he did.

Tell me biblical expectations of a prophet and you see ron Paul. God speaks to us in mysterious ways.

-_-

Way to muddy otherwise clear waters.

RON2012PAUL...The r3VOLution continues...
"I always win"
http://youtu.be/Xtl2ZuJpG9M
+GOLD and SILVER are money+
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThisIsRogueLiberty

Impossible.

Because a biblical prophet only speaks to the glory of GOD and directly in reference to GOD ordained ideas. Jesus did teach using parables, but always in reference to a Spiritual truth and not necessarily to a earthly one when teaching Spiritual GOD ordained truth. Every message delivered by the messiah was directly in reference to GOD and his relationship with man. No message spoken by Jesus or any prophet of GOD was ever spoken that was only earthly in content.
Sorry I must disagree.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

Complete nonsense. This is

Complete nonsense. This is one of those posts that bloggers fish out comments from to make a mockery of Paul supporters...don't fall prey

"...the most memorable concern of mankind
is the guts it takes to
face the sunlight again."-Charles Bukowski

You miss my point, maybe my fault

They are biblical references to someone like Paul. Is he a modern day Christ-like? yes he is, because he speaks the truth. His own establishment wont accept him, when they question him , its only about the extreme views. If Jesus was here today he would have been called many names, he was already called a devil in his days and a drunkard.

This not some fanatic just screaming out, this is an honest and serious discussion to really examine the word of God. look at the pastors of today? Look at the church of today.

I am a christian and yes I do check about the last days and if we think we are not in them, then we are like kids playing at the market place. I neg everyone just read the bible. The answer is there.

This is a little off-topic, but since we are talking about it...

Thought you people might find this funny: http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/

It's some pretty amusing satire about Barry...lol

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -Thomas Jefferson
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