Nigel Farage: 'For Greece It's Diplomacy At Gunpoint, And Portugal Is Next'

No, I was once there with you, ten years ago I would've maybe believed it too. Then I got out in the real world, read up on my history, studied law, psychology and just looked around and it all just falls apart. I am pretty far from asleep...trust me. If you want to talk about the dirt of the world, we'll talk about it.. but the real dirt, not some convenient fantasy version of it. The real dirt implicates all of us for our basic human nature, are you prepared for that? You say we're heading for a new world order. I say it's always more or less been like this. I don't really care whether WTC 7 was blown up or came down by itself, it's inconsequential.

I'm not saying the situation ain't bad and we don't need to change fast. There is a lot of corruption in the system and we're on a dangerous path that CAN lead to tyranny. Personally I think breakdown and chaos is more likely, and that'll open the door for tyranny. That's what happened to Weimar and brought in Hitler, by will of the people.

We totally agree there, I just don't agree there's a shadowy elite pushing us there. It's all of us.. we do it to ourselves or we let it be done. And I can tell you, that thought alone is whole lot scarier than any conspiracy theory can be.

Example: people are angry about the obvious voter fraud being done. But how did that come about? Wasn't it the American voter that was perfectly happy with the status quo for a long time? Who couldn't be bothered to get invested in it, show some basic interest, show up to causus for an honest candidate leaving it wide open for the corrupt trash, the corporations, arms industry and banks to take over for years? Now that it's finally affecting housing values and normal people's jobs... look at all the angry people. Where were they? When do you first got on the Paul-train? Where you a libertarian thinker before or after that you heard him speak about that? Do you read history? Have you travelled the world? Or were you content to first let Fox and now Alex Jones figure it all out for you?

Clean politics is a myth. It has never existed. Why do you think medieval people had to dream up a character like King Arthur, the righteous king? How did Ceasar really take over the Republic and why did he have the people's support in doing so? Why do you think the reformation happened? Why did the founding fathers have so many great, timeless ideas about freedom but even more slaves? Why do people believe in facism, communism or even absolute monarchy? It can't be that they're all either insane, evil or asleep? Why does EVERY revolution in history ends in terror and/or tyranny?

Sorry if that sounds harsh, I don't pretend to be any better. I'm old and wise enough to know I'm not. But look at how many people show up for elections, even now. People by and large don't care as long as it doesn't affect them directly. It's apathy pure and simple. Tyranny doesn't create apathy, tyranny creates revolution. It always does. It's apathy that allows tyranny, not the other way around. Tyranny has much more to gain from your complicity than from your apathy, it'll do everything it can to get you involved in it.

Don't take me the wrong way, it's great that you do care, but get informed and think. Don't just react. Don't just go on the internet and read the stuff that you agree with. That's pandering to yourself. Read most of all what you don't agree with. I have been a libertarian for years, best book I've read this month is by a marxist philosopher, best discussion was with a staunch social democrat. Does that make me a socialist? No, it makes me a critical thinker willing to challenge my assumptions, put it to the test. But it does make me see that in the end most people want pretty much the same thing, we just make different assumptions about how to get it.

And that, in a nutshell, is the problem I have with conspiracy theorists. We agree about a lot of what's wrong. But where you see a conspiracy, I see ignorance or corruption driven by simple greed. There is no overarching plot. If am angry about anything it's how all our ignorance and apathy has created a system that's corrupt. I do see that. But I see how the best of intentions got us here and how easy it is to exploit people of good intention. The people that gave us the EU had the best of intentions, they didn't want to destroy Europe, they wanted to make it better. But they did it too fast, so it had weaknesses that could be exploited. And if it's possible, there's always somebody that'll do it. If the atom bomb is possible, someone will build it. If there's an argument to make, someone will make it. Manifest destiny, Americans of all people should understand that concept. The welfare state for a while did achieve great results, but it's unsustainable in the long term. It seemed like a good idea at that time, and it was championed by the Ron Pauls of that time, against the will of the establishment that just doesn't like change. Then when change is inevitable the establishment adapts or is replaced and opposes further change. And that is what Ron Paul calls the intellectual revolution, which isn't really a revolution, but a counter-revolution: a return to common sense.

Still fast asleep am I now?