34 votes

UPDATE: Ron Paul Places Strong Second by DP data

I did an analysis of all the votes posted by actual Poll spotters, Paul people, at about 60 precincts. These are highly likely to be as close as uncorrupted as possible:

Vote totals are as follows:

RP: 572
NG: 251
MR: 897
RS: 117

These people either posted here or on the Nevada RP facebook site. Note: there were many times when the Grinch only got 0 or two, like Santorum. Look, these are regular people. For now, let's assume it correct. It's what we have all been saying: a strong showing for Dr. Paul at 31%, a strong second. Gingrich only gets about 13% and Santorum at 6.4%. Looks like they gave about 12 percentage points of Paul's away, maybe more.

Look, the figures for Romney in this are 49%, right on the spot. Keep your spirts up. You did take second place. Two resignations are to escape their complicity. Don't trust the recount either.

At 71 precincts the mad media had Romney at 48%, Grich 23%, and Paul 19%. This group is approx. 60 precincts. The fix is obvious. This is not that much different than the 4% they used to beat us up, fraudulently putting Gingrich in our faces.

We did get second, no matter what the recount shows. It's up to us to man those polls.

People, this is how easy it will be from now on if we get the results in advance and on tape.
Sources: http://www.facebook.com/RP2012NV and this site

Included below is B. Harris article, www.blackboxvoting.org

2/12 VIDEOTAPED VOTE ALTERATION SHOWS IMPORTANCE OF CAPTURING THE COUNT ON FILM - An incident in Maine follows the important alert by Iowa citizen Edward True. In Iowa, Edward True noticed the wrong vote total being reported in his precinct, altering the winner of the presidential race. He blew the whistle on it.

An investigation in Maine is proceeding after Jeannine Oren, a former news anchor for WMTB-8 in Portland, noticed that her own vote had been changed in a public meeting on a budget issue. She caught the vote alteration on videotape.

Read this detailed article on videotaped vote alteration in Casco, Maine here in The Independent: http://www.independentpub.com/story.asp?pubId=wi&artId=13282...

While reading the Casco article, those who are emotionally invested in the Republican presidential primary might also want to ponder this: Several Nevada caucus locations prohibited media observation, and in Clark County where it WAS allowed, a reporter from the Los Angeles Times was kicked out. She was called a "spy" when she attempted to witness the caucus.
READ FULL ARTICLE ON THE "SPY": http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-shes-a-spy-report...

While caucus activities are generally more transparent than standard elections -- at least participants can witness the count -- paranoia about allowing the media (or anyone else) to watch the counting does facilitate results reporting fraud.

Let's go back to that town meeting in Maine, where Oren was surprised to see her own vote altered in results reports:

According to The Independent, when Oren saw incorrect vote tallies in a local newspaper, she called the reporter's attention to the discrepancy. The Finance Committee had changed vote totals to a false unanimous result on a land deal. Then Oren, and Jennifer Murray, whose vote was also altered, each wrote to the Finance Committee hoping to see the problem addressed.

Here's why it is so crucial to get video: As is typical in these situations, Dave Morton, the town manager in Casco, dismissed their concerns and said that the correct vote tally would be presented to the public when the relevant article came up for discussion at the town meeting. As you may recall, the Appanoose County Republican Chair had a similar reaction when Edward True pointed out an incorrect results report.

Vigilant citizens made enough noise about the incorrect Iowa tally that the Republican chair had to back down, and further investigation into incorrect results in Iowa revealed many more discrepancies. The winner was reversed, in Iowa, and the Republican state chairman resigned.

The stink in Casco, unfortunately, did not ricochet around the blogosphere and no one seemed to pay attention (except Oren and Murray) when at the Casco town meeting, the Finance Committee again reported the wrong vote total.

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Dr. K. Research

Can you display the numbers at the precinct level? I trust your analysis and it is statistically significant. However, it would be great to have you display all the tallies at the precinct level so we can cross-check the results of the 60 precincts. Thanks for your work!

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9-11 Actors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE

Pysops.. media.. actors.. propagandists... disinfo agents.. fake videos.. fake photos

In answer to your important question about the data

Here is the raw data not from the GOP but from Paul voters on-site:

1677 (DP posting)
RP: 12
MR: 2
NG: 1
RS: 1

1703 (DP posting)

RP: 7
MR: 4
NG: 1
RS: 1

Special Late Night Adelson Caucus, Clark County
RP: 183
MR: 61
NG: 57
RS: 16

3843 (DP posting)
RP: 11
MR: 3
NG: 2
RS: 2

3430 (DP posting)
RP: 5
MR: 7
NG:2
RS: 4

Precinct group attending by Jem Waller
RP: 90
MR: 358
NG: 56
RS: 30

High school with 33 Precincts of Clark County (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 144
MR: 200
NG:68
RS: 10

3576 (DP posting)
RP: 2
MR: 33
NG: 2
RS: 1

3814 (DP posting)
RP: 6
MR: 6
NG: 0
RS: 0

The caucus attended by Sherrie Lynn Pavlovic (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 8
MR: 8
NG: 3
RS: 2

The caucus attended by Diane Weissman (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 7
MR: 20
NG: 6
RS: 1

Precinct 28 attended by Joe Heath, Nye County (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 19
MR: 12
NG: 14
RS: 2

Precinct 2392, reported by Ashley Wyma (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 10
MR: 10
NG: 2
RS: 4

Currie Precinct 3751 (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 2
MR: 2
NG: 1

Precinct 1000 at Swope Middle School by Chico (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 7
MR: 19
NG: 5
RS: 4

Brett Bradshaw, as reported on facebook
RP: 4
MR: 38
NG: 0
RS: 0

Carolyn Waite, precinct 2635 (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 12
MR: 38
NG: 9
RS: 2

Chip McVey, reported on
(www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 10
MR: 36
NG: 6
RS: 6

James Winal, on (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)
RP: 10
MR: 20
NG: 14
RS: 12

Q emell Irons, Shadow Ridge High School (www.facebook.com/RP2012NV)

RP: 9
MR: 14
NG: 2
RS: 2

3814 by L. Gonzales
RP: 6
MR: 6
NG: 0
RS: 4

Total number of votes: 1930
Total per candidate: Ron Paul,564 Mitt Romney,905 Newt Gingrich, 253 Rick Santorum, 104

Note: this is slightly off from the original calc (addition error), so here are the new %:

RP: 29.2%
MR: 46.9%
NG: 13.1%
RS: 5.3%

This represents a confirmed 54 precincts, but there may be more included in this sample, since the unnumbered ones may represent multiple precincts. Still a strong percentage and not statistically likely to change by 10 points. Nor would Gingrich upgrade by 10 points-plus.

Please help confirm and add to the data. Yet, it can be seen that a simple shift of Paul votes creates the false Gingrich surge. Like Iowa, this was long ago decided by secretive discussions. These numbers are relative confirmed. They do not preclude the probability of shenanigans done on-site. But they are much more trustworthy than all other numbers, since the count was done in public view.

We have work to do. We need to landslide the votes, much more difficult to defraud. Let us also work together to find other reports on the net of actual eyewitnesses to the counts.

My Error! I spread this

My Error!
I spread this thinking I was leading various private efforts to an official site. Sorry for my ignorance! Apparently Nevada HQ is not asking for vote tallies.

Is a trend to cause delay,

Is a trend to cause delay, confusion, need for slow recounts surfacing as a tactic?... meanwhile MSM has already put out falsified results causing misinformation, distortion of true results with impunity enough to sway and misinform millions of viewers who will not receive the corrected results.

LA Times "Spy" article correct link:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-shes-a-spy-report...

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

paul places third

so did paul place third in nevada because the sites say all votes are in and paul is in third

Although I am in the UK

I find this process very interesting. I cannot understand why there appears to be so much confusion over such a simple thing as counting and verifying votes.

There are many Ron Paul websites that cater to the Ron Paul community. It is my guess that every Ron Paul activist visits one of these sites at least during the elections for their State. My suggestion would be that every webmaster of these sites, like Michael Nystrom, get together and even work with RevPAC to create a simple website where caucus results could be posted.

It is my understanding that Caucus voting is not secret ballot and every participant in a caucus can know how many votes each candidate received. If one or two or three Ron Paul voters from each caucus were tasked with reporting the results for their caucus on the grassroots vote recording web site, on a password protected secure spreadsheet, then everyone could see what the actual count was even before the media or the GOP had the information tabulated. Then we could know without a shadow of a doubt if there were any vote changing or suppression going on and where exactly it had taken place.

What surprises me is that given the known possibility that this was going to happen that nothing has been organised to deal with it. It should be done by well known web forums like Daily Paul and Ron Paul Forums and RevPAC to give it the needed visibility. It may take a couple of Sates to get it going smoothly but there are still 45 States to go so it is important that it be done ASAP.

Just some thoughts from Bonnie Scotland.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

This just makes too much sense.

I feel like we are dropping the ball. Lets do it!

"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things, if you look at it right." - Richard Feynman

LA Times article disappeared,

LA Times article disappeared, here is the google cache link
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pBL2JV6...

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I believe that RP was the first

and that is what the mess was about. He had more people in meetings than votes.

I would have to be

a complete stooge to believe NG beat Ron Paul.

It defies the law of gravity.

The sun would have to stop rising in the east.

Tell a baby not to cry.

i just joined a meetup group

i just joined a meetup group in nevada to try to find out what happend and found this on thier discussion board. http://www.meetup.com/ronpaul2012/messages/boards/thread/201... hope it helps "Precinct 3435

35 attended

11 Ron Paul 16 Mi...tt Romney 5 Newt Gingrich 3 Rick Santorum

8 delegates to go to the county convention. I believe 5 out of the 8 are Ron Paul Supporters. I am one of the delegates going to Clark County Republican Convention held on March 10th at the Orleans.

Everything was legit, I watched and counted votes with chairman and other caucas goe'ers."See MoreCaucus Results - Ron Paul 2012 - Southern Nevada (Las Vegas, NV) - Meetup
www.meetup.com

Traci Fox
Ron Paul 2012 - Southern Nevada

Hey Martha, nevada precinct 6704 results were 5 romney, 5 santorum, 0 gingrich and 8 for Paul. I would be be very interested in knowing some real numbers and how its possible for Romney to win this state by a landslide. I think I smell a hoax!
Cr8zycakes

He won Nevada! I'd bet the ranch on it

I mean Romney? I mean, really? You want to accelerate foreclosures?

Mornng Joe just put up stats

Mornng Joe just put up stats with Santorum ahead of Paul in Nevafa cacus

RP and Romney are in agreement here

.

Ron Paul 2012

Carry this even farther

Your figures are impressive. I'm sure there are explanations or evasions from those who do not support Dr. Paul. It is important to stop it from happening again by the methods you have suggested. However, most of Maine already happened on Saturday, and there is a week to manipulate figures there before results are announced. Perhaps figures can be collected now, while Maine caucuses have the figures fresh in mind, and Ron Paul "exit polls" can even be posted before results are announced to make it harder to post any fudged results. Maybe Maine will be more honest with a governor who at least was willing to publicly meet with Dr. Paul.

But I suggest a completion of your Nevada project to as much completion as possible. We may not officially capture second place, and the couple of delegates lost, but a near statistical demonstration of what happened, if done with a large number of believable and/or confirmable reports of actual caucus vote counts will have a lot of weight, especially in light of all the main stream media stories about the abnormalities and confusion in Nevada's caucuses. A plausible demonstration of a vote steal for Gingrich will not only look bad for Gingrich, it will also lend credence to the fact that the establishment is out to get Ron Paul and help voters to realize that it is actually Ron Paul and the voters versus the establishment in this election. If a solid case for vote manipulation can be reconstructed, this vote fraud could actually be much more of a boost to his campaign than if they had just let him have an honest second place. So keep up the work if it is possible to go farther. The more caucuses that are reconstructed the harder it will be to shrug off what actually happened in Nevada.

Thanks Dr. K

Here is an interesting video.

Ron Paul SC Election FRAUD, Mitt and Newt are unelectable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCMdJWSWeWo

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deacon's picture

these 2 links

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-shes-a-spy-report
http://www.independentpub.com/story.asp?pubId=wi&artId=13282

and i see nothing wrong at all with keeping
reporters from reporting,all they know
what to do is fabricate,distort,twist and
outright lie when given a chance
having first hand knowledge has a way
of changing ones perception of them
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

These "results" are skewed in Paul's favor

because you would not be notified of any precinct results where no caucusers for Ron Paul showed up. Even among those with voters for Paul, the majority are likely not on DP. Who are on DP are activists and any precinct with activists in it stands a good chance of having been worked for votes in the preceding months by those very activists.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

Skewed is not the right term

Skewed means biased or distored. As long as the people reporting these reported them truthfully, there is nothing twisted about this data. More data is needed. Perhaps you can find some from Paul-unfriendly regions.

These are simply coallated reports from posters on the sites listed. They are mostly from people who had close contact with the voting process.

These are the kind of results that are necessary to determine the exact vote.

All results, even where Paul scored poorly, are reported, except one bizarre event,associated with the ejection of a reporter, yet to be confirmed by an observer. When that observer comes fowrard, they will be added to the total.

So,now,how are these skewed? If you want skewed, ask about those precincts, where people were harrassed, disengranchised, tormented, pushed/shoved, and disallowed from voting through fraudulent bases.

Billy Jack's picture

Legs keep it real doc - these

Legs keep it real doc - these numbers are skewed - or not a fair sampling, as the poster said. Save your semantic for arguments with your wife.

Cos Cob, CT

I believe he is correct....

It is true what he says about the statistics.
Where there are no RP supporters to show up, this influences the outcome. You must see that, right?

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