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Could someone help me with my OS ignorance?

For the last month or more I have occasionally been getting an error that shuts down my Internet Explorer. It has only happened while I am here at the DP and only while I am half done typing in a comment or reply. Because only happens here at the DP it has me confused as to origin of this issue. I tracked it down and got the error reports and would like to see if someone could point out something I do not see as to origin and cause. Any help would be appreciated if you could find the time? I changed my name to xxxx in the strings for privacy reasons all other details are as I copied and pasted them here.

An Update and Apology:

I thank everyone for all the help and suggested fixes,I will work on some of these for sure. I realize I should have explained my situation a little better and apologize for not doing so. I am on a very slow land line connection and unfortunately I am limited to IE because of the speed it operates at on my slow connection. I have tried all the others and because of the extra resources for the security features incorporated, they slow my page changes from a minute to sometimes almost 5 minutes.

Honest, I have had absolutely no problems with IE 8 and my security since this computer was new almost a year ago. I have no clue why but it has only done this randomly on this site alone and always under the exact same circumstances. lol, at first I thought maybe I was being barred from posting?, but I could not see someone here shutting down my whole browser including other tabs I had up just to stop me from posting. The integrity of Michael and the crew here is too great to do something like this!

Maybe it is having conflicts with Drupal? or Word Press? although it is aggravating when it happens, I guess I will have to accept it for what it is. Thank you all and I will keep patient until I find the issue, because unfortunately I do not have a faster connection available right now. Thanks again for your time and help!

Error reports from my event logs:




C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe




Not available



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Just for good measure I would

Just for good measure I would install and run malwarebytes and scan your system too. IE add-ons are a common place for malware to embed themselves and can through all sorts of strange errors in IE. Also malware can be consuming resources in the background causing ie to crash. You can manually look through your addons in tools > manage add ons from within IE and disable anything you don't need (which is probably just about everything in the list).

Also if you use chrome or firefox you'll probably notice a bit of a difference as well... IE is pretty terrible (getting better with newer versions though ie9+ requires windows 7 I believe).

- Grow Mushrooms at Home

techie talk

"IE add-ons are a common place for malware to embed themselves and can through all sorts of strange errors in IE."

I used to do systems work, but have been away from it for a few years...

So it's some 'strange errors' in IE that allow the malware to embed?

I have always used something other than IE - NS years ago, now FF - because I never trusted it. Are these the same thing that we used to call exploits?

I use Firefox

for a few reasons. 1)Ad Block Plus - I can't imagine browsing without it. It blocks almost all ads. For instance, I watch the daily show without ads. 2) It's open source, which is just so cool and fascinating. 3) Top rated, Fast and more private than Chrome. I really appreciate what Google does, it just freaks me out how interconnected all their products are and I don't really trust them.

"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things, if you look at it right." - Richard Feynman


I actually use two browsers: Chrome and FF.

I'm conscious of how much I rely on Google products. They're just too d*mn good ;) Google just simplified their privacy policy too, probably with an eye toward your widely shared concern.

BTW, Chrome is open source too.


That's one of the things I like about Google,

they use open source and show the world how profitable it can be. Android for example. What do you use Chrome for that Firefox doesn't do? Faster? Integrated Google products? I've been using Firefox exclusively for about six years. Never used Chrome mainly because of Ad Block Plus. I wonder if they have a comparable ad blocker.

"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things, if you look at it right." - Richard Feynman


I agree about Google. Their approach really seems favorable. Microsoft could have remained king, they were so dominant, but instead they're losing, because their core approach/way to handle things has been off.

I do some development on my local machine, and Firefox is my default browser for that. It works well in that capacity and I know I'm seeing the same as many end users will see. (I hardly test with IE anymore. My coding practices are solid enough, and I don't care about the rest.)

Then I use Chrome for my main browsing. Mostly because it's fastest. But also because it's best for security (for now), and I like the aesthetics/feel. The "incognito" window is cool too.

Running both I can quickly tell the difference between my "work" and "browsing" windows, although I use FF to browse too because of Ad Block Plus.

Just testing here making a comment with IE8 on XP

All seems well so far. Not sure what the specific problem might be. Is this only some of the time, or every time you make a comment?

Explorer suffers memory leaks

Its the worst browser with regard to security. My suggestion, delete any shortcuts to it and install Google Chrome, Safari or Firefox. Chrome is the first choice amongst these. You wont regret the switch.

FWIW I never close my browser (Chrome), always have at least 2 or 3 tabs on the DP and haven't rebooted my machine in weeks.

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Well, there's your problem - IE, it stinks. I develop web sites

If it vanished from the Earth, I'd do a jig and crack a bottle of bubbly to celebrate.

But to your specific issue, I notice you are using IE-8 and it looks like perhaps Vista or Win7. If so, please try IE-9 and report back. If you perchance are using something older than Vista (XP, 2000, 2003 Server) than more info is needed, since an upgrade to IE-9 is not possible on those systems. (as far as I know)

To Start, Your Problem Is

that you are still running closed-source, bug-infested, back-door enabled WINDOWS.

The Solution - Linux. A free open-source platform where viruses and bugs have gone the way of the dodo bird.

I've been running Linux Fedora since 2007 and have not one virus infect any of my (5) computers. You actually learn a lot more about operating systems when open-source software is utilized.

Linux Rocks!


"If we lose freedom here there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth." -Ronald Reagan

When they took us off the Gold Standard they took away our money... in order to make it theirs. -OneTinSoldier

Ditto on that one.

I've used Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Debian, CentOS (which the DP runs on), Puppy, TinyCore, and Mint. I've yet to venture into Slax, Arch or any RPM based distro, but I have to say, I do NOT miss my Winblows days. (I was even using OS-9 from Microware on an old Tandy CoCo3 - with a GUI! - before Win 3.11 came out)

My new approach to "cleaning up" my friends and family's computers for them is to wipe Windoze and install Linux. I just got sick and tired of cleaning up the same machines. For those who absolutely can't find FOSS apps for what they need, or they already bought something expensive in an .exe format, then I try WINE or failing that, I'll give them vBox or VMWare Player with their original system on it, clean and fresh of course. I then admonish them to never ever use it unless absolutely vitally necessary to preserve life and limb.

I've never been called back for a problem or infection and all such systems are still running fine. Some haven't even been shut down in 3 years.

I do love my Mac though. (it's essentially UNIX nowadays anyway)

Stop IE

Chrome works wonderful here.

I am a programmer, and IE is pitiful. Worthless garbage.


Best solution:

Stop using Internet Explorer.
Alternatives: Firefox, Chrome, Opera, etc. All of them are more secure and more dependable.

DP tends to slow down your browser over time

I have discovered this after long sessions of leaving a browser session open with DP in a tab for hours or days on end. More than likely this is due to a runaway script that doesn't let go of resources, possibly related to the live chat feature (though I haven't certainly debugged it enough , or at all, to conclude this, that's my educated guess).

That's not too nice on the DP servers.

You should log out of DP now and then.

Do you really need any given page open that long?


I leave my browser up and don't close it. It shouldn't matter to the server what I do if I'm idle, and if it does then we should look at that at the design level. If it's really a problem for the DP servers I'll close my browser but in fact it shouldn't matter.

I think it is just an issue of lots of people being logged in at

once. Though they may have fixed that. It seems Drupal doesn't play nice when the logged in users reach 1000. That is why the site dropped off during some primaries/caucuses.

Generally I don't suppose it is a problem, but I would think not having extra idle logged in users doesn't hurt either.


I work with technology.

My advice to resolve your issue is to visit the following page and install then use Google Chrome for your browsing. Try it for one month. You won't go back. It's pretty much the fastest, most secure browser right now.


Google "how to start internet

Google "how to start internet explorer without add-ons"

Google "how to reset IE8"

Upgrade to IE 9 (unless you're on XP which only supports up to IE8...in that case, scrap that 10 year old OS and get a new computer).

Currently running...

Currently running Windows 7 64 bit with IE 8, I am very wise to resetting the browser and cache dump. I have heard from other webmasters that IE 9 is having some problems? I was waiting for them to patch the bugs before trying it? I am trying to figure out why it doesn't happen during page changes,Only while in the middle of posting a reply here at the DP?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Did you try it with scripts turned off?

I notice slightly better behaviour and response without it. Your inpage editor will look a little different, but it still works fine. I use this mode exclusively now.

(at worst, I think your default browser setting for monospaced font is used instead of the one preset by the editor)

Since this seems to be an issue when typing a comment, my guess would be that this should narrow it down.

Without scripts on, instead of the usual editor, you will get a simple text memo form field to type in. For me, it works just the same.

another layman's suggestion

I'm only a layman and usually access DP using Firefox.

I also experience some crashes.

I try to clean my cache frequently (since I watch alot of video clips my cache fills rapidly and if I use CCleaner alot during the day I usually have no problems here (you can get CCleaner free, if you don't already have it; it's small, very popular and works very fast...it uses very little resources. Just close your browser and clean...

I know the DP site gets overloaded due to many users at once.

Previous reports by DP have explained that they are working on the backend to resolve problems of when the system is overloaded with a large number of concurrent users.

I now often am using Chrome as my browser and find none of the same problems here as I have had...

Don't know how to debug error dumps, but

Since I don't know how to debug error dumps, all I can think of to suggest is...

Delete your browsing history and cookies. Check all the options for deleting --> Temporary Internet Files, Cookies, History, Download History, Form Data, Passwords, and ActiveX Filtering and Tracking Protection data.

I don't know if that'll help but it might be worth a shot.

Good luck

"If we lose freedom here there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth." -Ronald Reagan

When they took us off the Gold Standard they took away our money... in order to make it theirs. -OneTinSoldier

Thank you for the suggestion

I wish it was that easy, I have to dump my cache and reset my browser all the time while working on my websites. every time I change something on my sites I have to do this to see the new changes. Sometimes three or four times a day. This is something persistent that seems to only occur here and not being a programmer I just can't "see" it yet. Thank you very much for the time to help and I wish you were right about this working,Unfortunately it seems to be deeper than just a browser reset and cache dump.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

ie crashes

ie crashes for me also, especially when I'm running this site and a scripps news site. Think it has to do with the chat function.

firefox has worked MUCH better for me, but I still use ie most of the time. Get some really weird graphics "bugs" using ie on this site sometimes. Other times... no problems at all.

not really an OS question, more browser question