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War on Christianity

War on Christianity by Radical Groups:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/02/05/ayaan-hirsi...

A good article on how Christinity is being squashed in other countries. The writer was part of a film and hence received death threats.



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John MacArthur has also...

...addressed another "war" against Christianity in about :90 seconds here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTFXl5Co5rQ&

I won't follow the link but

I will tell you this.

The war on Christianity was waged as soon as Christianity began and Christianity was usurped under the rule of Constantine when he declared himself head of the church thus starting the Catholic religion. Although the protestant movement rejected the authority of the Pope they didn't reject the false teachings that had already been implemented.

True Christianity has been just as void in this country as it is in any other country. It is this false Christianity and the belief that this country is somehow more holy than other countries that are the root of many of our problems and what has given rise to the Neocon. Neocon is to conservatism as Christianity is to Scripture. Let's not even mention the ills of liberalism which is our main adversary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

She may raise some valid points here and there, but she's always courting controversy somehow and a little too willing to lie to get her way.

It's interesting how she went from pro-welfare social democratic atheist to neocon pundit defending christians.

That article is disinfo

There are large and healthy Christian communities in Syria and Iran. Iran even has 20,000 or so Jews in the country.

Where Jews are NOT, is Iraq, and Christians are quickly disappearing.

Christians were in Saddam's government. Not in the new government we installed though.

Plenty of Christians in Syria's government and military.

Our actions are actually CAUSING the Arab Christians and Jews great angst.

If Assad falls in Syria, the Christians and Jews there are doomed.

Keep Religion out of this!

This author is misinformed.
However since it was brought up...
Islam is not the enemy of Christianity. Zionism is, and, unfortunately America has become Zionisms barnyard dog. The blowback, although unacceptable, is understandable.

How would Americans react if invaded?
Want to stop christians being persecuted in islamic countries?
stop invading,
stop occupying muslim lands,
stop killing muslims,
stop trying to tell other people what to do,
stop proselytizing.

and Stop Santorum! He's a walking poster boy for WWIII.

Santorum & RP Vote-Meter.

bandrig, thanks for your post, but your opening line needs correction, = you are too kind, maybe unknowingly. The author Ayaan Hirsi is Not misinformed, she is a researcher, seeks the worst men /deeds in the middle-east, then projects /magnifies the same as representing Islam /muslims. She is a rabid islamo-phobe, a tool gaining money & audience of the hateful.

Ron Paul said about Santorum - "he hates muslims & gays".
So the votes for Santorum will be like a meter or gauge of the hate content in the american electorate. I guess he will edge out Newt & Romney as the campaigns progress.

Ron Paul with The Golden Rule attracts the fair & truthful,
those for transparency, accountable govt., rule of Law, non-intervention, security of individual rights, follow the Constitution, honest money & gold standard, free-markets, trade & friendship, remove burden of taxes, reduce size of govt & its meddling, & + much more, including the 911 truthers. 1 in 7 americans doubt the govt version, that itself is a solid 14% block of votes.
with best wishes ~ ~

you are partly rt and wrong.

truth is that islam is indeed a fierce enemy and competitor of true christianity. christianity believes in separation of church and state. islam believes in merging mosque and state.

on the other hand, that is also the reason why countries should not mess with islamic countries - they are just ripe for disaster with meddling.

jj

QurAan & Christians.

lib, passion for faith & loyalty to one's own are positive & healthy traits. But the policy of "my own right or wrong" is unfair, causes great confusion /strife. Check the facts, verify.

You asserted confidently - "truth is that islam is indeed a fierce enemy and competitor of true christianity". What you said about the religions is grave error, you are Not talking about Christians & Muslims. Surely you must be knowing that both labels / groups have formed a lot of branches, denominations, cults, sects & sub-sects, - now who will decide which is the true representative of each religion. There are many who pretend to be Christian or Muslim, but they are not (true), here is the real problem.

There is No Islam without the QurAan, all Muslims Have-to /must Believe in it. It guides & teaches them, also about relationships. See /read chapter 5:82, = [[Strongest among men in enmity to the Momins=(faithful Muslims) will you find Yahod=(Jews) and Mushriks=(corrupters, mixers); and nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find those who say: "We are Nassara=(Christians)" : because amongst them are monks=(unworldly), and men devoted to learning, and they are Not arrogant.(82)]] Here you find a True Christian is recognized, & respected with fair words. There are more verses & references.

Both religions believe in & honor The Maseah, son of Mary'um. The difference is that Muslims believe that Christians exaggerate about him, at the same time Muslims are taught to be patient & tolerant. All of us will give accounts /answer on Judgment Day.

What does this have to do

What does this have to do with the election? Us Atheists have been attacked for thousands of years and still are to this day. Give it a break and let's use this forum for what it was designed for.

I am a Christian, and I have NEVER . . .

attacked in any way or felt any sort of hostile feelings for any atheist.

I just wanted you to know, and I gave you a point, because you have a right to be heard--

and you're right; it has nothing to do with the election, but everything to do with it. Until there is respect for beliefs, ALL beliefs, including atheism, there will be no liberty--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is the neocon work horse, AEI asset

who, in Time magazine, basically told off Afghan parliamentarian Malalai Joya for not being "grateful" for the foreign intervention in her country.

That was my tip-off that she is working for the puppetmasters. Prior to that, I took her book Infidel seriously.

Christianity is self-destructing from the moral rot within. The moral rot that's pushing for endless global warfare. It doesn't need foreigners to take it down.

lets leave religion out of

lets leave religion out of this...im an atheist but i dont want any religion to be squashed...WE ARE ALL HERE FOR LIBERTY NOT BECAUSE RELIGION

Christians for Ron Paul

....are I am sure less likely to come to this site if they read this thread.

I am not for any religious or non-religious group being singled out as "the way." Neither is Ron Paul. Meanwhile there are many people who are religious looking at the candidates. This site reflects to some exactly "who Ron Paul is." I wonder what Ron Paul's brother who is a preacher would think of this thread.

Do we not want their votes? Do you want them to think Santorum is the only "real" Christian in the pack? Is it 'that' important to have your say about personal beliefs which you have every right to have?

What is happening in lots of the world is not so much "blowback" as it is imperialistic interventionism. People are suffering as a result of it. Ron Paul's foreign policy is not only sound, the best for the US and our defense, but full of compassion for people suffering because of our meddling.

Just came here after talking to my friends from Syria who know a family...mother, father and seven children just killed in Homos while cowering in their home. Wish I had stayed away from the DP after this phone conversation.

fonta

You are needed here, please--

This is heart breaking, what you are telling us, and MANY of *us* Christians do not approve of what is being said in the OP--

I stand for respect for all belief.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Voice of Reason.

fonta, please stay with DP, we need the voice of reason, fair & faithful, blessed are the peace-makers.
Ron Paul is no softee, he is for strong defense, secure borders, declaration of war, marquee & reprisal, etc..
Same time he follows the Golden Rule, offers Mutually Assured Respect, non-intervention, no pre-emptive wars, plus trade & friendship, = take your pick.

Ron Paul is for Free-Market, for goods & ideas.

Imo

Christians have been 'warring' on Christianity for about at least the last 40 years.

Going to Sunday 'feel good' Church is now akin to going to a concert or some similar type of entertainment.

I do recognize though that Christians are being hard done by many lands over seas and at times suffering greatly.

p.s. Christians should leave Pakistan asap imo.

donvino

so, IF the US . . .

Jesus's country, by some middle easterners, would have NOT done what we've done to Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan and Iran, etc., etc. We might be able to muster some help, influence and a coalition of our Muslim brothers in the midedle east region. We could ask this group to help reduce violence against Christians in these various countries.
This group could communicate how they are our allies and trade with us and that how since we've had open and friendly relations there are millions more Christians now in these countries.

oh!! we cant even begin to think of doing this as this part of the world hates us with a vengence because of what we HAVE done to them.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

Daily-Beast & Ayaan Hirsi Ali = Anti RP.

Click the home-page, they have reports on Romney, Newt, Santo, Palin, etc., but Not a word on Ron Paul. You bet its anti- Ron Paul site, the same type who would object to RP's foreign policy.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is making money working over-time, spewing anti-muslim hatred, as if the churches, vatican, govts are sleeping, and only she is awake to raise alarm. Neo-Con agent paid by zion, for security of bankster interest %

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If you read her book Infidel, you'd know

the valid reasons she speaks against the excesses of muslim extremism. She has been a heroic defender of freedom, when she was a legislator in the Netherlands.

It is sad if she was subsequently influenced by NeoCons. She sought refuge in this country after so many death threats and her good friend and film-maker was murdered. If NeoCon anti-Muslims used and misled her that is very sad. I very much doubt her motivation was money; good people can err, especially when they've been targeted so viciously.

Although we dont advocate violence

read some of Anders Behring Breivik's manifesto that he wrote and released right before he carried out the attacks in Norway. Included in his manifesto is a pretty in depth theory on the war on Christianity by Muslims and Marxists. The main topics in his manifesto include:

1. The rise of cultural Marxism/multiculturalism in Western Europe
2. Why the Islamic colonization and Islamisation of Western Europe began
3. The current state of the Western European Resistance Movements (anti-Marxist/anti-Jihad movements)
4. Solutions for Western Europe and how we, the resistance, should move forward in the coming decades
5. + Covering all, highly relevant topics including solutions and strategies for all of the 8 different political fronts

http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-content/uploads/2083+-+A+E...

Are you f***ing SERIOUS?

NO! I'm not reading that psycho's manifesto, there are no "solutions" in it, what on earth makes you turn to HIM of all people for intellectual stimulation?

Even if you are so inclined to take notes when the serial killers are holding forth, please do NOT make the Daily Paul look horrendous by showing up here appearing to praise him.

For heaven's sake!

Well Said,

someone sane was needed to do it. thanks

Radical Groups like the UN Agenda

Christianity is being attacked in the USA, where Catholic Churchs are told they MUST perform abortions and they MUST issue birth control, where religious schools are being closed down, and religious studies are being eliminated, where angry people come into Churchs and Temples to shoot people, right here in American where in the paper, Atheists wax righteous blasting Christians for hypocracy and blame Christians for the wars, the bombs, the military, where prayer is eliminated from schools, fraternities, secular groups, and people don't respect or tolerate those who believe. Right here in America we have a huge anti-religious movement flamed by MSM, the papers, the TV. the radio, the movies, music, sports, clothing, hospitals don't ask and don't care what religion you are. Many die never having last rights, Chaplins are not religious but "spititual". We have a problem and the courts are against religion. RIP Terri Schiavo.

gosh. tell me what you really think.

The Righteousness Offends Lesser Lads

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

mia culpa

The most profound tome I have read is, "The Catechism of the Catholic Church".

Was it in Latin?

Mea don't know.

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

My Missel has a Latin translation

But since I'm in the choir I'm not reading that as much as praising Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, God The Father All Mighty, Glory to God, and Amen in song, depending on the Mass. I especially love doing the response and acclaimation. Some of our enterence, offetory, communion and exit songs are in Spanish so, we will do verses in English and verses in Spanish. We have songs in Tongan, Portuguese, Philipino, Chinese too. That is fun. One of the things I LOVE about Church is all the cultures of people. I LOVE being around many cultures, races, and giving the sign of peace. My Preist is from India, he is soooo cool, and he says he LOVES RON PAUL. :D

Wait a minute. Methinks our paths have crossed before...

Do you live out in Cali? In some scenic foresty area? If so, we have dueled, or at least debated, before. I fail to remember what we were on about, but I vaguely remember me giving you a YouTube clip to watch. Did you by chance ever watch it?

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

Who would downvote this?

Lol I must've made some REAL enemies that downvote EVERYTHING I write. Even posts were I make no controversy. I'm flattered.

We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. - Stefan Molyneux

You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing. - Alan Watts

I don't do YouTube (NeoMSM)

Ayn Rand claims in Leonard Piekoff's book, "Letters of Ayn Rand", that if she were not an Objectivist, she would follow Saint Thomas Aquinas because he established God as reason. Ayn Rand was a motivator for me to convert from Objectivism to Catholicism.