Ron Paul says yesterday's GOP result 'opens up the door' to us
Submitted by bobbyw24 on Wed, 02/08/2012 - 06:29GOLDEN VALLEY, Minn. (AP) — Republican Ron Paul said front-runner Mitt Romney's inability to brush back challenges in votes Tuesday "opens up the door" to him and others looking to deny the former Massachusetts governor the party's presidential nomination.
The Texas congressman was headed for a solid second-place in Minnesota's caucuses, which were won by former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum. Santorum also won Missouri and was in the hunt for a victory in Colorado's caucuses.
"I'm a little surprised. I thought Romney would have some of this automatic carryover," Paul told The Associated. "It certainly doesn't hurt us."
Paul was on course to capture more than a quarter of Minnesota's vote. He was a distant third in Missouri's non-binding primary and far back in Colorado.
Paul said of the night's results, "I think it splits the vote and sort of opens up the door to us."
http://news.yahoo.com/paul-says-gop-result-opens-door-034722...
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Ron Paul fares the best against the incumbent
Obama would defeat all of the four Republicans if the election were held today, but Ron Paul fares the best against the incumbent. Obama leads Paul, 44 percent to 40 percent, with 16 percent undecided.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/20-of-republicans-leaning-to-obama/
Yeah but will he be on the
Yeah but will he be on the ballot in Nov. to face Obama?
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Yup
And it's time the GOP faces the truth: it's RP or 4 more years...
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I can hardly wait for Mittens....
and the Grinch to go rabid on Santorum.
Is Ron Paul at turning point in campaign?
Ron Paul performed strongly in Tuesday night's Minnesota caucuses. But he also finished last in Colorado and Missouri, calling into question his caucus-centric campaign strategy.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2012/0208/Is-...
Winners and losers from Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/winners-and...
How did Ron Paul lose in CO? He had more votes in 2008 there. That's the disappointing part.
I reckon since Santo, Romney
I reckon since Santo, Romney and Newt beat him
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Hmmm
Hmmm
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How Ron Paul Can WIN
How Ron Paul Can WIN
This was passed on as URGENT by Patriots, to give information on Election 2012
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Time to face the facts. What the GOP fears most is what America needs most.
Neither Santorum nor Gingrich can win the nomination for one simple reason. Neither of them can collect enough delegates to win.
Neither man can be the nominee because neither one was able to get on enough states' ballots to make a difference. (564 delegates that Newt can't win, and over 700 delegates Santorum can't win ).
The media and the GOP are praying to God that the American people continue to remain ignorant of this fact for as long as possible while they try to come up with a strategy that will bury Ron Paul before Romney is forced to face him on stage alone and the commentators are no longer able to marginalize Paul by giving all the questions to everyone but him.
Ron Paul and Mitt Romney are the only two candidates that made it on the ballot in every state. Romney will not beat Obama, he's too similar except he will raise taxes on anyone making 40k a year or less in favor of giving himself lower taxes. Independents are going to run to Obama if Romney is the alternative.
It is a two man race between Ron Paul and Romney for the nomination.
It is also a two man race between Ron Paul and Obama for the White House.
It's time Conservatives and people with any functioning brain cells in their heads started backing the only real candidate that will beat Obama and save America. And whether you like it or not, that candidate is Ron Paul.
The facts can't be twisted to point in any other direction. The delegates decide who gets the nomination and you can't get delegates if you aren't on the ballots. It doesn't matter how much money gets pumped into your campaign by special interest groups. The facts are the facts.
IMPORTANT FACTS:
Fact : Gingrich and Santorum cannot win the nomination no matter how much they get in " popular " votes.
Fact : Ron Paul will decimate Obama on his Foreign Policy stance alone. Add in his economic and defense policies (Policies that Obama ran on in 2008 and abandoned once he got in the White House so no one would be stupid enough to believe he's going to follow them in his second term) and you have an un-beatable candidate in the general election who the bulk of the American people will vote for when they finally get a chance to see the man unfiltered and unbiased by the media.
America is broke and the average American is tired of hearing about another war on the horizon and seeing more dead soldiers coming home in coffins for no reason...all the while the freedoms they are dying to " protect " are being stripped away from us by our own government...one by one.
Obama has ‘0’ chance of beating Paul and Washington knows it. The GOP knows it. The corporations that own Washington know it too so they instruct the media outlets they own to hide it from you.
But now you know. Gingrich and Santorum are mathematically incapable of winning the Nomination and Romney can't beat Obama in the general election.
Ron Paul is the only choice we have. It's just nice that, for once, he's the RIGHT choice and not just the " lesser of two evils ".
YES, DOUG WEAD FROM THE PAUL CAMPAIGN SAID THIS! See video where he mentions Newt and Santorum won't be able to get 564 delegates : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxKpRctPHyc
ONE MORE IMPORTANT NOTE:FUNDS ARE NEEDED FOR THE LONG HAUL UNTIL THE REST ARE OUT!
Sanntorum and Gingrich not registered in some states
I have read where gingrich will miss out on about 500 delegates and santorum will miss out on 700 delegates. What states are they not going to be on the ballot in I know about Newt and Santorum in Virginia and Newt in Missouri but how do you come up with the large numbers of delegates and what other states are they not on the ballot in. Please explain this to me I need a confidence boost.
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The Gingrich and Santorum Missing 564 Delegates Ballot Access
http://www.capitalfreepress.com/4580-gingrich-santorum-missi...
Gingrich and Santorum have different ballot access problems. Both are not on the ballot in Virginia and don’t have full slates of delegates in Tennessee, but in Missouri Gingrich is not on the ballot while Santorum has no issues and Santorum is not on the ballot in Washington DC and lacks full delegate slates in North Dakota, Ohio and Illinois. Whatever the true number of delegates each are ineligible for, the number is different for both of them.
Rick Santorum Fails to Qualify for Indiana Ballot
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/rick-santorum-f...
I know Newt and Rick aren't
I know Newt and Rick aren't on for Vigrinia, and Rick is out of Indiana. Also remember some of those numbers are taking into account the ones they already missed so far.
I can't remember the others off the top of my head though, :P
Santorum and Gingrich Not on Some State Ballots...
But, I rarely hear the MSM reporting these facts to the voters so that, they are informed before they waste their votes.
Gingrich and Santorum have different ballot access problems. I guesss, if those resent voters did their own research, they would of realized how futile it is for Santorum to win. Neither Gingrich nor Santorum are on the Virginia ballot and they don't have a full slates of delegates in Tennessee. Santorum is not on the ballot in Washington D.C. or the District of Columbia. Santorum failed to get a full slate of delegates in North Dakota, Ohio, and Illinois.
http://www.capitalfreepress.com/4580-gingrich-santorum-missi...
If I'm Not Mistaken
...Santorum does not have a full-slate of Delegates in Maryland either (only a few).
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I love his response to the voting last night Feb 7th, He is acutely aware that all of the lemmings are trying on the flavor of the month, and quickly find the the inconsistency leaves a bad taste in their mouth. He knows that his message, our message of Liberty, Integrity and Freedom, will slowly rise up after all else fails, to capture the Blue Ribbon, HOW SWEET IT IS!
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good stuff
Anyone who dilutes Romney's/the establishment's vote is good. My, I'm glad you stuck around, Santorum ^_^
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Thanks for posting this so I can see what it said because I no longer click on Yahoo! articles (if I can help it).
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Since RP is not thought to be
Since RP is not thought to be in the lead...
Hey GOP, where's my vote?
My thoughts exactly
Santorum winning, albeit not as good as Paul winning, is 100 times better than Romney winning. Cause like Paul(lol, still don't ever want to Ricky as president), he's been ignored to some degree(not anywhere near as much as Paul though). MSM has spent SOOO much time propping Romney up as the "Heir Apparent" that for Santorum to get 3(albeit only 2 counting) wins shatters the veil for anyone that hasn't 'completely lost their mind'. It really discredits the media and has them scurrying around looking for an explanation.
The best thing about this? Ricky can't survive the long haul because of being off the ballot in so many states, which the MSM has tried to ignore, and probably won't mention too much(since that would raise eyebrows about Paul and Mitt being the only ones on the 'out' ballots for Ricky and Newt). Ricky is only really hurting Mitt here. And since he'll implode by sheer lack of a path forward, we'll see Mitt with delegates lost to a 'pointless' candidate, further disqualifying him in the eyes of any some-what sane person.
The one thing we can take away from this no matter what, Rick sweeping last night opened more doors for a brokered convention, which Paul could take home hard core.
good points
good points
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I agree
that considering that we didn't win, yesterday's results were some of the better ones we could have gotten.
Romney loses the "mantle of inevitability".
Gingrich still weak, and probably not a factor.
Santorum strong generally only in evangelical states.
RP had strong second place in Minn, which shows he can still score high.
Missouri was a beauty contest, and not the deciding factor in the state, and we will probably get a good delegate count in their later caucus. But, the 4th place was disappointing there.
Colorado was the real disappointing one. I could understand Missouri going Santorum, but Colorado? That was weird. And not good. Don't know what to say about that. Strange.
Anyway, now it's a jumble. We're still in the mix.
Gingrich took the worst hit.
Everybody knows Frothy can't take states that aren't heaviy evangelical.
And Mitt isn't liked, and yesterday Minn proved that RP can finish higher than Mitt.
So, its anybody's race.
Expectations
MN - I thought he's going to win by a hair but it wasn't even close. At least he got 2nd.
MO - Only Santorum campaigned here but a 3rd place finish that's half that of Romney is disappointing. Good thing it doesn't really count.
CO - this one is the biggest disappointment. 4th place. Lost to Newt by 1 percentage point. Newt's disorganized campaign beats Ron Paul's organized campaign. How is that even possible considering that Frothy is taking some of Newt's votes.
FiveThirtyEight.com called it!
Most likely scenario: He is not too far out of the running in Minnesota but is well behind in Colorado and Missouri.
I like what I'm seeing...
BigT, you said: "RP had strong second place in Minn, which shows he can still score high." You're on the right track but I say this Minnesota result does more than that. He didn't "still score high", he scored higher than he has ever, in any caucus or primary in 2008 or 2012, someone correct me if I'm wrong. He has also beaten Romney for the first time in 2012 that I can recall. Santorum won, but it was Ron Paul finishing a very strong second that put Romney in third and really handed him a turd. I see MN as a HUGE moral victory. He got 16% there last time, he did WAY better this time. He only got 8% in CO last time so he improved there with 12%. He only had 4.5% in MO last time so he improved dramatically there with 12%. (And didn't finish 4th, he finished 3rd of 3 on the ballot in MO).
Now it's on to Maine where Paul got 18% last time and Romney over 50%. Let's see how much of a bite we can take from Romney this year. We might not win, but a strong showing like we had in MN would be impressive in a state that some consider as much Romney's turf as New Hampshire. We have lots of local endorsements there and some new momentum from MN, and Romney's lack of Momentum may play in our favor. Get on the phone to anyone in Maine that you know and make sure they vote for our guy!
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Great Analysis of Which
Great Analysis of Which States We Should Focus on
I had to spend quite a while typing just the delegate info out into a forum-friendly format from information available. But it is extremely interesting and sheds a light on how we could win the nomination. We have to be working hard towards this goal, because looking at these numbers, it's hard to say it isn't possible.
Below the delegate information is some analysis of how things could pan out if we play our cards right. It's just a prediction, and a few scenarios to be mindful of. Remember, we are in this thing to win.
Primary Schedule and Delegates
Rules affecting delegates:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?359168-Ron-Paul&...
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Double Wow!
This is very good info. Thanks for putting it together.
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It might have to be its own
It might have to be its own thread. LOL
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