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TROLLS: Please be EXTRA ALERT for them TONIGHT

And in the next many days. There is currently a coordinated and pre-planned troll attack hitting the DP.

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THEM

IDENTIFY THEM and DV their comments/posts.

Thanks

Don't need to be playing footsie with trolls right now.

Things to look for to spot members of this troll attack.

1. Odd comments, particularly at this time-extremely Defeatist, No Vote Fraud, etc.

2. Very recently joined the DP-Click on screen name for that info

3. Very limited/strange-Comment/posting history
Also can be checked by clicking on member name

NOTE: Be careful about whom you think is a troll.

2 or more of the above and just don't engage them for now.

TO SEE AN EXAMPLE OF A NO DOUBT TROLL
that is part of this planned effort follow the link below and check out "righttherightnow". Please do not engage in comment-sation with that one or similar.

http://www.dailypaul.com/...



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EveySolara is one

3 weeks

Nothin' but negative posts.

"It does not take a majority to prevail but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."

--Samuel Adams

Trolls, please help out with the MONEY BOMB on the 14th

The first step to becomming a RP supporter.

You ask why all these folks care so deeply about this RP guy, then you learn the truth about what is going on.

Then you believe with heart and soul and contribute to the money bomb on tuesday the 14th

Its all about the love of a people for the nation (USA)

The funny part about this is that we are also defending the rights of every American that is actually going against the RP truth.

Funny but sad.

Best not to engage or comment on the Trolls

Click on their name to view membership and posting history if at all in doubt. I almost went off on a suspected Troll last night but checked his account and discovered he'd been a member for of 4 years and had posted soundly over that period. He was just frustrated and hurt to be again be a victim of fraud and deceit. So I encouraged instead.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

It should be noted...

....that many of the more seasoned members in blue and purple are saying no vote fraud, incl. seasoned 100% RPers who are inside of the NVGOP, IAGOP, MAGOP etc., incl. some of those who counted votes!

So, be careful indeed.

Welcome all trolls, any questions?

"Admitting that you are a troll is the first step to becoming a member of the R3volution.
Taking the medicine that the doctor has to give is how you will be cured."

grant

I like this:

"Admitting that you are a troll is the first step to becoming a member of the R3volution."

and the rest of your prescription to cure LackofLibertyosis.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

What a great bunch of outstanding people

Ron Paul brings to the table. I've never seen a more dedicated and motivated people that I see in RP supporters. Let the trolls come. They will see we are unwavering and may just turn a few around. I thought 2008 was great, but this is really beyond words. Too bad some were not awakened back in 1988 or old enough. We would have turned this Republic around than. Come on in trolls, and convert and be a part of this great Revolution.

GEAUX RON PAUL 2012.

Bring on the trolls.

I ain't afraid of no troll. They throw punches a Dr. Ron Paul all day and he still keeps standing. The man can take a punch and keeps moving forward. Welcome all trolls and expose their ignorance.
Dr. Ron Paul is taking this movement all the way to Tampa and we will see the convention packed with Dr. Ron Paul delegates. There will be a brokered convention and Dr. Paul will either be top ticket or vice presidential candidate.
grant

The Kind of Trolls I am referring to are Hard Core political

The Kind of Trolls I am referring to are Hard Core political
operatives.

Some facts to keep in mind:

RP steps on a very large number of very important toes.
He rains hard on many, many, very sweet and long running lucrative scams. He empties their rice bowls. How hard do peeps fight for their rice?

Recently, the GOV did a solicitation for software that allows a few GOV employees and/or contractors to influence discussion boards while appearing to be many people for each GOV operative. This is just the latest in an on going struggle in cyberspace. The status quo is fighting back against an insurgency using the best means available(Net) to spread the word that the Emperor is Naked, Corrupt, Evil.

The essence of what we and our opponents are involved in is a war for minds with the weapons being words and images. Many on the RP side understand that fact; everyone involved w/ protecting the status quo knows that fact. On our side we are mostly a motley collection of well meaning, naive, amateurs. On the other side it is a well oiled, well organized, very savvy, very well funded army of highly motivated and highly professional/experienced and ruthless operators that have the longest undefeated streak in the game of power in history.

Yes we are about LOVE.

Don't let LOVE translate to foolishly naive.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Amen To That

I could not agree more. We are responsible to be present and see what is before us, and then measure ourselves to respond in the most powerful way.

So let's acknowledge what is before us.

The GOP, the media, and yes the democrats are all participating in varying types of vote fraud to try and defeat Ron Paul, and the love of liberty he represents. Those who have power fear it's loss and are hanging on in every way they can.

They appear to be winning, and are trying to convince us of that, but they are not. And they know it.

Their fear is consuming them. Let's not let it consume US.

All good there and with this:

"They appear to be winning, and are trying to convince us of that, but they are not. And they know it."

You said a very important mouthful in a beautifully concise way.

Much of their power derives from the perception they can create with their control of the best perception generation tools.

They are definitely and cunningly working hard to create a perception that they are not only winning but resistance is futile.

The wisest reaction when resistance seems to be or is in fact futile-RESIST MORE, RESIST HARDER and most critical-RESIST SMARTER.

Fortunately, as you correctly point out, we are not in a state of resistance is futile-we are making steady progress and they frequently display signs of ever more desperation and concern with that fact.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

I see your point.

And wise men know it is not smart to throw pearls to pigs. But I've noticed many trolls coming to this site in droves over the past month or so. If all we do is name call and get irritated by them, then they win. Best to beat them down with arguments that have been discussed and taught to many of us who have been here for years. Personally I've been here for over 4 years and have seen many a troll converted by persuasive arguments. Not that we have to accept insults, since that kind of action by them will have them band. Let's use this time to teach and also have fun with the R3volution. Don't let their hate poison the movement, as doctor Paul has a cure for their poison and can care for their illness.
grant

I'm with you Grant

I know you understand that with so many things of importance-properly communicating all the necessary nuances of the thing in question requires both a very lengthy/detailed explanation and a willingness of the intended receiver to take the time to understand. Unfortunately, that is not often practical or realistic.

I realize I raise this issue at risk of a little info/knowledge being dangerous-causing more harm than good.

The general and limited intent here is just a heads up to the good-hearted/ethical(the vast majority among us) but less experienced that these things happen, be careful not to be fooled or distracted by them but at the same time take care not to be quick to a definite conclusion.

The timing of this post coincided w/ a period of vulnerability for our folks(not getting our hoped for in Maine) and a flurry of doubt comments; many solid supporters feeling frustrated, several of questionable leanings deliberately sowing/cultivating negative feelings.

Anyway, the foregoing, is to say I appreciate and do consider the valid points you raise.

I would ask, if you would and have not yet, please check out the link I posted above in the OP. Please read the comments of the member noted and the differing reactions.

Also, please read:
http://dprogram.net/2010/02/08/disinformation-tactics-the-me...

when you have time. Not providing that link for the specific issues that concern the author but just as a fairly concise treatment of general unethical opinion shaping techniques.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

yowza-yowza-yowza

LOve the R3volution

ya'll trip me out !!!!!!!!

Distractions, disinformation and troll control...

Judging by the ability of many on this forum to easily identify crafty weasels and trolls, the below information may be superfluous. For those developing an insight into these matters it might be of some help. You don't have to see a skunk to know it's there.

http://dprogram.net/2010/02/08/disinformation-tactics-the-me...

Did someone say skunk?

:)

"Criticizing Ron Paul for not passing bills in Congress is like criticizing a nun in a whore house for not turning tricks. He was there to stop the "whoring," not become one!" ~ Blake Buffington

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Good Link thanks for that useful info

Personally, kinda not down with the king of the mountain we are trying to displace playing by no rules, while many on our side are still extremely naive about the game yet not the least inhibited about interjecting HS repeatedly.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

I don't remember names but

it seems like most of the disruptive comments were made by people 4 years x weeks old. I started clicking on the names when a post is very disruptive and it almost seems a pattern to me.

Two we found out

LAKAWAK and Washington 2020

what do you mean by DV?

what do you mean by DV?

Billy Jack's picture

Down vote

Down vote

Cos Cob, CT

Why you always stirring trouble?

Why don't you and your lapdog grow up or get a job or something?

Yah..I ain't afraid of no

Yah..I ain't afraid of no trolls..they hang out under bridges I fly over. They can stay here as long as they don't cause real trouble elsewhere. We convert trolls here..

Billy Jack's picture

This was a Brilliant thread

This was a Brilliant thread idea - it seems to have drawn in a number of trolls for easy identification. Put them on the list!

Cos Cob, CT

Remind me to...

... steer clear of you in hard times. If you're the kind of person that jumps to conclusions and wants to put people on lists to get an attaboy, that's pretty scary.

Maybe? We should be doing more educating to these

individuals about there freedom and liberty losses. The importance of following the money trail with regards to the pundits and "journalists". If Daily Paul personnel would spend more time educating about NDAA, who owns who, why the Constitution is so important, why the value of our dollar is in crisis, etc... Maybe, just maybe the "trolls" would become Liberty conscious individuals and decide to support Ron Paul.

Dr. Ron Paul delivered over 4,000 babies

Dr. Ron Paul has more active military donations than all of the other candidates combined, including Barack Obama

Dr. Ron Paul is the only candidate that has served our country

Dr. Ron Paul votes consistently "for the people"

Dr. Ron Paul will only take the average median salary as President of the Untied States, currently Barack Obama takes a $400,000 salary per year. Ron Paul would only take a little over $39,000.

Dr. Ron Paul gave back over $140,000 of his Congressional Office Budget.

Dr. Ron Paul does have paid staff, but most of his supporters are volunteers and his paid staff do truly support him.

Dr. Ron Paul's grassroots supporters started the Tea Party.

The Prime Minister, as early as last fall, asked our Congress to NOT send troops to Israel.

Dr. Ron Paul will not cut one penny from veterans, seniors, and national defense.

Keep informing others!!

Call your representatives and ask them to get on board with the Audit of the Federal Reserve.
www.senate.gov
www.congress.org

The Kind of Trolls I am referring to are Hard Core political

operatives. You would have far less chance of converting them as the odds of converting a hard core RP supporter.

Some facts to keep in mind:

RP steps on a very large number of very important toes.
He rains hard on many, many, very sweet and long running lucrative scams. He empties their rice bowls. How hard do peeps fight for their rice?

Recently, the GOV did a solicitation for software that allows a few GOV employees and/or contractors to influence discussion boards while appearing to be many people for each GOV operative. This is just the latest in an on going struggle in cyberspace. The status quo is fighting back against an insurgency using the best means available(Net) to spread the word that the Emperor is Naked, Corrupt, Evil.

The essence of what we and our opponents are involved in is a war for minds with the weapons being words and images. Many on the RP side understand that fact; everyone involved w/ protecting the status quo knows that fact. On our side we are mostly a motley collection of well meaning, naive, amateurs. On the other side it is a well oiled, well organized, very savvy, very well funded army of highly motivated and highly professional/experienced and ruthless operators that have the longest undefeated streak in the game of power in history.

Yes we are about LOVE.

Don't let LOVE translate to foolishly naive.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Are Trolls made of wood?

One caution...

...about reviewing new members' post history: I'm new, and I recently went and deleted a bunch of my past posts that I felt were no longer relevant, etc. You might get an incomplete view of a particular member if you only rely on what posts are still in their history.

And for the record, some of my threads that I created stating my opinions that I felt were turning a little too heated and would reflect badly on Dr. Paul if they stuck around, I went ahead and deleted that same day.

I don't know if this kind of self-clean-up is considered good practice or not; but just consider that the recorded post history might not fully reflect someone's participation, for either good or bad.