Tell Maine GOP Chairman Charlie it's unacceptable that 17% of Maine votes will not be counted. Contact him right now and demand he count all the votes!
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Thanks, I emailed him
I hope something comes of this
Not good
What a corrupt organization. Thank goodness it is not a charity.
donvino
Dear Chuck,
Dear Charles,
If you and your "base" were bothered by the rowdy RP supporters the last time around at the state convention you better hold tight to your helmets come May.
You have made a major mistake if your efforts to deny a fair caucus and poll result.
The energy this time around will be too overwhelming to cheat!
I'll see you there Charlie. I'll be the one with the constitution in his front pocket
Oh! And have a nice day.
screw un-acceptable
If your from Maine and you see that dip-shit on the street, publicly chastise him! He's a treasonous scum-bag!
If the history of man teaches anything, it is that the masses don't answer until a catastrophe is beating down the door.
Just wrote them
Just wrote the following to all three email addresses listed on their site:
Dear Madam and Sirs,
I'm from Michigan, and I'm watching the Republican primaries very carefully. I love the democratic process, and I think it is completely absurd that apparently around 17% of the votes in the Maine caucus won't be counted in the final polling result. Why should this happen? Why not give a total so far ("With 83% of the votes cast, the totals are such and such", and then later, give another total, "With 90%," (or 100%, etc.) "the totals are such and such."
Why just leave it at the first 83% to vote? Why leave out the people who had their caucuses changed because of snow and choose to just not count them? Are their voices not worth hearing?
I'd appreciate a response on this matter (and a change in your policy on this matter). Thanks very much!
called no answer
and i dont expect them to call back
“When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.”
― Ron Paul
Called and left message
questioning the ethics of discounting votes yet still announcing a disputable winner
Wait, I Don't Understand
Are we mad at him because he tried to force those caucuses not to cancel by threatening not to count their votes unless they met by Saturday?
Or are we mad at him because when they refused to caucus, he lived up to the threat?
Rule of law? Or, break them when inconvenient?
Is it a good idea to attack our friends?
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BS! The GOP made the decision
BS! The GOP made the decision to postpone for the "snow" that never came. He never threatened ahead of time that Washington County Caucuses would not count at all. He only made that decision post hoc, after approving the postponing of the Washington County Caucuses. Even the Washington County GOP chairman, Gardner, verifies that he confirmed the postponement with the State GOP ahead of time, and that he was never told their votes would not count, only that they would not be in the Saturday tally.
Second, the postponing of the Washington County Caucuses was a GOP decision. The GOP is responsible for the delay. The GOP then after the fact told the Washington County voters "Now as a result of us postponing the caucuses, we decided your votes wont count at all. You are all disenfranchised."
The GOP was responsible for the delay, and then used their own actions as the basis for disenfranchising the the entire county of Washington. The GOP prevented them from voting on Saturday and then used its own wrongdoing to strip them of their votes.
What the GOP has done and said to Washington County is:
It is akin to a concert announcing ahead of time that it is postponed and don't bother coming we wont allow you in, and then after the fact saying since you did not show on time we're keeping you money anyway. The GOP is using its own wrongdoing to manipulate the vote, and penalize and disenfranchise the entire population of Washington County through no fault of their own. It is heinous, unequitable, unethical, unconscionable, and fraudulent conduct to do so. To try to defend such actions is either idiotic or corrupt.
Some may say that the GOP official who announced the postponement is differnet from the GOP official who used the postponement to as the basis to disenfranchise an entire county. That does not matter, it is stil the Republican Party maing both decisions. Like any organization, the party is responsible for the acts of its agents. Think about the concepts. If Bigstate Insurance sells you insurance through its sales agent, and you later make a claim with its claims official, is Bigstate now claim it is not responsible for its policy simply by claiming the Bigstate official who sold it happens to be a different person from the Bigstate offical who processes the claim. Of course not. It would be absurd.
Likeswise the GOP cannot use its own actions in postponing the Washington Caucuses as the basis for disenfrachising the entire county, simply by proclaiming it used different people to make the announcements to postpone and to disenfranchise. That is also absurd.
Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl
The GOP is a Group
The GOP is a group. That's my problem.
I would imagine that every registered Republican in those uncounted areas is already on top of this, and that a few of them know how to appeal to the judicial committee of the party, arm-twist the right person, or go to court.
My main problem is with the idea that we should all bully them indiscriminately as if all the individuals in the group were responsible for all the actions of all the members.
That's how we messed up the country in the first place.
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Indiscriminately?They Party
Indiscriminately?
The Party just disenfranchised an entire county and more for reasons they created themselves. The Party is responsible for its own actions and decisions. The leaders of the Maine Republican Party are the leaders of the Maine Republican Party.
It is hardly indiscriminate to raise these concerns and questions and issues to the leaders of the Maine Republican Party - the ones ultimately responsible for the actions and decisions of the Party and the ones with the ultimate authority to answer the questions and address these concerns. That is not "indiscrimnate bullying." Rather it is very focused appeal directly to individual(s) who have the authority to address the issue and bear the ultimate responsibility for the party's actions.
Good people standing up and speaking out in opposition to injustice and in defense of liberty is not what messed up this country. To the contrary, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.
There is nothing virtuous in remaining silent in the face of injustice.
Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl
P.S. - Its all GOP
P.S. - Another way to look at things: assume a clear, unequivocal written warning were given ahead of time:
Republican Party warns the Republican Party that if the Republican Party postpones the Washington and other caucuses, the Republican Party will not count those votes. The Republican Party then postpones the Washington County and other caucuses. As a result of the Republican party's decision to postpone, the Republican Party decides to disenfranchise the entire Washington County and other caucuses.
How is the Republican Party not responsible? The Republican Party set the entire situation up for their decision to disenfranchise voters. They are responsible for all events and decisions leading to the disenfranchisment. They created their own excuse to disnfranchise voters. Noone else is to blame.
If such actions are allowed to stand, it can be used to manipulate any election, selectively choosing which localities to exclude. They just repeat the formula for any locale they dont want to count. If they decide now to exclude a county in Washington State or even the entire west or east half of the state, they simply repeat the same process. A GOP official warns a particular county or counties not to postpone their caucuses. They then postpone those caucuses for any reason - rain, wind, storm warning, roads, cold, not ready, process dispute, snow, infighting, etc. Voila! - Now the GOP disenfranchises those entire counties.
Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl
Yeah, personally I'm not
Yeah, personally I'm not throwing stones at this guy just yet. To me, the only implication is the guy who actually did the cancelling - Chris Gardner.
I understand the deadline and why Charlie would not count votes that came in later than Saturday. However, did he mislead local officials into thinking they could cancel and still be counted? I really don't know.
I'd like to get Chris Gardner on the news for an official interview and have him explain exactly why he decided to nullify his counties votes.
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The lid needs to be blown off this.
The campaign can't just keep taking this laying down. The story of Maine is so easy to use as an example of GOP cheating. Mitt's getting all the buzz on TV now, they got the results they wanted. The average Joe isn't aware of what the Maine GOP just did. Somebody has to point this out. There is about 3 weeks before Super Tues. This was all designed to give Mittens the momentum for these 3 weeks. That's plenty of time to throw a monkey wrench in there.
alan laney
I Call on Charlie Webster, of Farmington Maine, to be the THIRD
state GOP chairman to resign in disgrace, for crimes against liberty and his fellow Americans.
Tar and feathers are too good for this traitor.
Yes
We demand you step down, you are a disgrace to our voting system!
"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com
Completed as well
To all,
You should be completely ashamed of yourselves for the embarrassment you have brought to the Maine GOP. You are completely alienating those very supporters who you are going to plead to receive their vote from in November during the general election. By deliberately postponing a caucus and then stating that you will refuse to count those votes that the citizens of Maine have cast is nothing short of what a tyrant and a dictator would look to do. You are no better than Ahmadinejad and Putin because you have shown that you have no issues rigging a vote. This is the exact shenanigans that will bring the Republican Party to its knees. I will be relinquishing my affiliation with the Republican Party shortly after this election. Too bad there are hundreds of thousands of other individuals out there at this very moment who feel the same as I.
Signed,
Concerned Citizen
Done
to all 3 addresses on that page. Thanks for posting!
Let 'em know how you feel people!
Done
Webster and Michelle and all who are aware of this and aren't doing anything about it.
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
What about the guy who
What about the guy who actually postponed his caucus?
Tell me. Do you believe him? Do you actually believe that somebody would postpone a caucus for a week and not think to ask if the votes would not be counted?
Apparently he is a Romney supporter, too. Either this man is extremely dishonest or extremely stupid. I think we must be stupid if we believe he postponed a caucus in a highly contested state for his candidate without making (or perhaps more likely receiving) some phone calls to key party officials.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Re-Elect-Chris-Gardner-Washing...
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You Know He Had to Inform the GOP His Decision to Cancel and It
Would Have Also Been the GOP's responsibility to inform him that the votes would not be counted. So this all seems pretty fishy to me but than again not surprised as this is just another game the GOP is playing to push Romney out front. I am sure they were afraid that Ron Paul would have won if this county was allowed to caucus with them.
A.Hansen
I'm just speculating here,
I'm just speculating here, but my personal guess would be that the state GOP called him and persuaded him to cancel it. They are the ones that would be keeping tabs on the likely turnout in all counties. And you are right. This is very fishy. Why anybody believes that a county chair would postpone a caucus a whole week after the end of the state caucuses and never think to ask if that might be a problem is beyond me. It simple is not a credible story. Nobody is that dumb/incompetent.
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All of you are missing the main point
The point is not 17% votes. The point is counting was completed in 95% before the caucus day yesterday. The maine GOP results doesn't include the votes from remaining 12%. caucuses held in places like waterville, waldo were already done with Dr. paul winning by 15-20 votes but they haven't been reported here.
http://www.mainegop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/me_gop_ca....
The man is a traitor to his country,
and a wicked criminal.
Every RP voter in Maine should shun all contact with him completely. Refuse to serve him in a restaurant. Don't fix his car. Don't do business with anything he's connected to.
Throw him out of any private gatherings he shows up at. Publicly chastize him every chance you get. Give him the riot-act when he's at the grocery store, at WalMart, on the street, everywhere. Make his life a living f*cking hell.
Freeze him out of the state. Make sure he knows why.
My letter to Maine
You, sir, should be ashamed of yourself and your party. In your efforts to marginalize and defeat the Ron Paul campaign in the great state of Maine, you are exposing the GOP as the crooked organization it is and alienating an entire bloc of otherwise GOP voters. We are paying attention, and the "Grand Ole Party" is walking a slippery slope to extinction. You may think this is funny now, but we will be the ones laughing come November when Mitt Romney is soundly defeated in the general election. I do not know how you can sleep at night, and your actions in canceling the Wayne County caucus is not only despicable, it is UnAmerican. You work for your constituents, not the GOP. We WILL see the cause of personal liberty through until the end, with or without the GOP, and WE eventually WILL BE the GOP.
Good day sir!
Michael Pisto
Buffalo, NY
Sent this:
A little playful and of course polite!
"Dear sir,
It would be fine if you would please count 100% of the recent Maine caucus votes cast.
Also it would be even finer if you could see to it that caucuses are not cancelled due to minor snow forecasts, and subsequent very minor snow reality.
Thank you,
Scott Hopersberger
Ron Paul supporter!"
How about the Girl Scouts! They are tougher then these
Rhino's they can make it to the event with an inch of snow.
count the vote demo
How about a Count the Vote demonstration in front of GOP Headquarters, the Capitol, or the party chairs house or Governors office.Ask for Paul supporters to rally from all across New England and New York.This may generate press coverage to put the true story out.
professorjoe
done
sent a nice message for the fella
I don't really care about all
I don't really care about all of the admonitions that we need to be polite and civil, etc. I just sent Charlie a very short and sweet email letting him know how I feel about him.
Cos Cob, CT