Lets Make it Happen! - Adam Kokesh gives a great speech
Submitted by Mr John on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 23:53in
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ok....
...don't critique Adam's sentiments and plea with him to investigate his worldview...sorry!
Evolution theory is tax-supported religion ... make sure you look into the "other" theory, equally religious, yet HATED by dictatorial governments!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JZR...
The deliberate Marxist tanking of this economy through political cronyism and moral compromise, in pursuit of the love of money carrot-and-stick approach(Federal Reserve bubble)cost me and my family a successful budding career that I loved! Ron Paul 2012
Great speech!
And yeah...I see all of the interesting higher criticism about Marx, etc....and Kokesh does indeed go down the rabbit hole on the contact lense part.
But I started listening to Kokesh in about October of last year. And then guess who I started listening to in November of the same?
Dr. Paul.
I credit singlehandedly this guy helping me to waken from my neocon leanings and becoming a BIG time supporter of Dr. Paul and his timeless message of liberty and personal responsibility.
And it truly is a "Lov3olution".
Adam Kokesh is a BOSS! More power to him. Hey Adam we will see you on Monday in DC!
~Chris
Norfolk, VA
Adam is a smart guy
Its unfortunate that the Constitution puts age limits on elected leaders...something I think should be amended.
Why should Adam have to wait until 2020 to be electable for president?
I say lower the Congress age threshold to 20, Senate to 25, and President to 30.
The age discrimination thing is a built-in institutionalized mechanism because the older one gets...the less and less they seem to like Lady Liberty.
By allowing younger people into office, this will balance that out and be another chip away at the Establishment.
Adam K for President!
~Chris
Norfolk, VA
Chris, please don't take my harsh sounding comment the
wrong way. Your commitment to LIBERTY is evident in the comments of yours I have read previously.
This comment, well meaning as it is, is filled w/ many dangerous notions-no offense.
Won't go point by point. Just one:
There are many smart people in the world. There always has been and always will be many smart people in the world.
Unfortunately, history demonstrates overwhelmingly, that the majority of the "Smart" people that get in the business of seeking and holding aggregated power do so for the wrong reasons and wield that power for ill.
One never knows for certain which of the few smart people can be trusted w/ power until they have been observed for a long time with power. There are signs to look for to improve the odds of only handing power to those few that have the rarer qualification to be trusted w/ power than smartness-true goodwill toward all mankind. Study RP well and you will see why he is so special-from a very early stage, in simple but observable ways he showed signs of being one of the few that could be trusted w/ power. Two important signs: Not really wanting power and humbleness.
If we exercise great effort, to exercise great care in whom we entrust with power, we will save ourselves infinitely greater effort required to correct the situation that ensues from making a bad choice in whom to entrust w/ power.
"You are a den of vipers and thieves."
I mean to rout you out!
-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us
-The door is wide open, anything can slither in
Not taken the wrong way at all! :-)
I have been observing Adam K for a while and one thing that he comes across as not being is power hungry.
To the contrary...he engages people and uses, as he says, freedom not something to be coveted for ourselves...but as something to relate to people.
Adam is a smart guy...and an evolved one. Sure he is not perfect by any means. But when he speaks, I am probably gonna listen.
As well i will listen to you for your own prescience...or another person of similar import.
The wise man...takes it all in...and then filters out the truth.
Thanks for the message...and point taken.
~Chris
Norfolk, VA
Whoa, Kokesh back away from the cult of transhumanism
Transhumanism is the death of humanity, aka the replacement of human biology with hardware.
It's not going to be a utopia of augmented humans.
Also, we had more freedom before computers and the average person was literate. Freedom is the product of a moral and responsible society.
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Agree. Through no frame of reference the "Connected" Gen
have a very skewed perspective on the total impact of comm and data access tech on many things human-LIBERTY in particular.
They think such tech is what is setting humanity free, when in fact, from it's earliest stages, advances in those areas generally facilitated further de-humanization and enslavement.
Yes, peeps are using such tools w/ the notion they are fighting back and yes it is nice to theoretically have everyone own their own printing press but most are clueless about the wisdom that would curb them from using those tools in a way that further facilitates their demise.
A very simple example for illustration:
Being able to blog to, in theory, the whole world that the entrenched powers are hauling you off to the gulag and the subsequent further constraints, on actual physical freedom, one on such a path is likely to realize does little good to rectify that situation and likely much to ensnare others. Receiving tweets back in sympathy to the bloggers plight mostly serves to falsely create a sense of progress in the mind of the blogger and gives the technologically superior rulers an easy means to identify other dissidents for round up.
One of the biggest downsides that I have noticed from the rise of "personal tech" is the exacerbation of the normal youthful stage of "our generation is different, smarter, got it dicked, innately know it all, etc., with the exacerbation of the stage being compounded by delayed growth out of that fools perspective. The en-slavers know darn well the usefulness of that view and are the main source of propagating that stupidity to the naive.
How many of the PT gen know how the first advances in modern comm and data access tech were used to great negative affect on the common man by aggregated power PTB?
"You are a den of vipers and thieves."
I mean to rout you out!
-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us
-The door is wide open, anything can slither in
Steve Jobs did more for liberty than Ron Paul?
I don't think so. Steve Jobs may have provided tools, but without a message or philosophy all they are is tools to be used for any message.
For instance, Obama is making use of Steve Jobs tools also.
I turned it off at that point
I was kinda fed up to listen to all the evolutionary references to "millions of years ago", but when I heard the Steve Jobs comparison, I turned it off. Personally I was not very impressed. I guess listening yesterday to Glen Greenwald and Noam Chomsky together on one stage just set the bar too high. Definitely recommended to all RP supporters: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/WithLi
for sure
Without the platform, Ron Paul would have faded to obscurity years ago.
Jobs socialized the smart phones to the point they're in everyone's pocket. Freedom and information (or bad obama things) are on tap for everyone 24/7. It's the ideas that are important, RP is just a messenger at the right place and right time.
That contact lens thing might very well end up being my life's work..... What he's talking about isn't that far into syfi.
I'd even go as far as saying that Linus Torvalds (the Linux kernel guy) had more to do with the freedom movement than either.
When "they say" that the Gutenberg press was the primary reason the Renaissance happened .. "they" are right for a change. The same will be said hundreds of years from now about tech & the internet.
Nailed it
Adam Kokesh: "The message of Liberty is Love"
Amen.
Very good speech and I'm not
Very good speech and I'm not going to nit pick.
Best line of the speech.
"Lets make it happen!"
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
-Sam Adams
Interesting speech-
Adam's transitioning from a youthful frustrated revolutionary to a confident, studied[ing] man of the Constitution, Decl. of Indpt., history, economics, anthropology, govt, but he's doing it putting his face and neck on the line...basically, going with his instincts. Lucky for us, he's on our side.
I really enjoyed hearing this transition. It just showed me Adam's smart, a good listener, passionate, and will keep the fire burning, during and after Ron Paul, almost a half century Adam's senior!
Oh, I forgot, this man is a leader!
"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina
I don't think he realizes that the stumbled into Marxist theory
I don't think Adam realizes that he stumbled knee-deep into Marxist theory... The idea that the political institutions of humanity are a function of it's stage of technological advancement is core to Marxist theory. He explained that ultimately what individuals do is in the bigger picture completely dwarfed by some pre-determined linear human destiny. He even paraphrased the 6 Marxist stages of human societal development (Tribalism->Slavery->Feudalism->Capitalism->Socialism->Anarchy) - just he mixed the order of socialism and capitalism.
He said that the early tribal society meant that you had to follow the leader because you needed to hunt for survival. He then said that we don't need to any longer because there is so much abundance... Marx called this "social surplus" . And when he mentioned the unemployed not having to want for hunger... He essentially did what Marx did, which is to sever the causal link between production and consumption; Because there is so much "social surplus", nobody should ever have to starve.
He even mentioned wage-slavery as one of the stages. Again accepting the Marxist premise that to withhold voluntary consent or dealing is equivalent to force. Where as Austrian economic theory tells us that only the state can create and enforce true monopolies, Adam is left to reason that by refusing to pay a certain wage, a company that holds a majority or totality of marketshare is in effect a coercive monopoly.
When he attacked government qua government as an illegitimate vestigial entity (that is, not just governments that have overstepped the proper role of government, but any government), he essentially advocated for anarchy. Marxist too believe that the state will wither away, and that only anarchy will remain... (they called this anarchy communism - an anarchy under which there is so much social surplus that there is no need to use force). Without a neutral/objective state to define property and adjudicate disputes via law, capitalism is impossible.
He is also deluded if he thinks all our technology changes anything or determines what philosophy will win out - the internet allows for communication so we can't be lied to? An illegitimate state could switch the entire internet off in a second flat if it thought it had to. He doesn't see that all these tools can be used for evil as well as good.
If he is acting with these ideas and philosophical premises as his basis for action - he will be willing to enter alliances of convenience with the philosophical enemies of freedom, and he will deliver to them the fruits of every victory over the status quo.
People, check your premises, please!
I have to agree! I hope Adam
I have to agree! I hope Adam can explain his philosophy better to us because I was confused!
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Remember Ron Paul; 'They're Setting The Stage For Violence In This Country' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiCdMFB2iPw
The deliberate Marxist tanking of this economy through political cronyism and moral compromise, in pursuit of the love of money carrot-and-stick approach(Federal Reserve bubble)cost me and my family a successful budding career that I loved! Ron Paul 2012
Adam's an ass-hat
Sorry but it's true. He's not well like in the Marine Corps veteran circles.
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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
They don't like
soldiers who ask questions.
Negative generalizations do not help
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"The future is liberty, not tyranny and not big government." --Ron Paul @ Texas A&M 2012/04/10
What is your motivation to diss a brave
young man who works tirelessly for Liberty and Peace? there will always be differences of taste and opinion, so what? Do you not understand that freedom is a uniter? What would you divide us for? Personality? Do some work on your priorities, please, so you can be a positive force instead of a negative.
That was in inspired speech, maybe a little over the top for some, but here is a man fueled by a beautiful vision of the future. Why knock that when it is based on universal principles of liberty, peace, and love?
Perhaps,
when the opportunity presents itself, you can say that to his face. I'm almost certain that he would enjoy the debate that would invariably ensue.
For Liberty,
dakealo
Do I hear a touch of Zeitgeist in Adam's speech?
"Human progression" is not that linear and all upward, mind you :-)
Technology is not necessarily the tool for salvation. It is when we learn, accept and THRIVE to live without any technological assistance that we are truly FREE, IMHO.
But then, the beauty of this liberty movement is that we let others believe in and live with *even* (gasp!) smart phones in their hip pockets.
Adam Kokesh rocks!
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Good spokesman for liberty
I was not "wowed" by this speech as many of you were, but I still believe Adam Kokesh is an important spokesman for the cause of liberty. I think the speech itself might have benefited from a rewrite, and I think his delivery was good but not great. One moment when I felt that he almost put his foot in it was when he essentially said there are no starving people in the United States today. I know that he did not mean that literally, but I think he fumbled that section a bit.
As for his comments on evolution and responses below, I think there is one very important point I'd like to toss out (at risk of being ostracized).
We don't understand liberty if we think that its nemesis is "government" only. Freedom of body must be accompanied by freedom of mind. Now, if we use our divine capacity for reason to thoughtfully consider all sides and come to a conclusion, certainly that is an exercise of our liberty. But if we rail against one ruler ("government") only to submit meekly to another ("church"), then I believe we are equally lost. I respect others whose beliefs diverge from my own when those beliefs are really *their own*.
Wow!
That really was fantastic!
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"When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads."
"It's not like I'm a powerful person. My ideas are."
Great Stuff!!
This will be my third election in which I will proudly vote for the good doctor. Adam is a new inspiration for this ole time Ron Paul supporter!!
Ron Paul 2012
The part about evolution may not sit well with creationist
But the thing about liberty is that it brings people together who can express wonderful ideas
im a creationist and i was eating this stuff up like chocolate
I don't think he meant Evolution
in difference to Creation. I think he meant evolving toward a more Christian character of living. I am a Creationist also and did not take it as the Theory of Evolution. Just my opinion. I agree it was great and he is one heck of a speaker. We need him in office!!!!
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
Adam was talking about
Adam was talking about evolution.
#1 - he said 'back 2 million years ago..'
#2 - he also said '..when we were becoming homo-sapiens..'.
A Creationist doesn't believe the earth is 2 million years old and second, a creationist doesn't believe we evolved from one thing to become homo-sapiens.
Otherwise it was a fun speech.
I'd probably clean up the language a little bit to appeal to a more mass audience in case kids are there. You don't want your kids going around with potty mouths because they see someone they respect doing it. The kids probably do it already but why re-enforce something that isn't considered polite in our society?
See you are missing it
you here in belief of freedom yet you say that someone should not say something...I am confused.
People should all be able to say what they want no matter who does not like like it.
"Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past you must fight just to keep them alive"