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Why did we lose Daily Paul Site

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Scroogle is still down hard, they might be toast

Google has really been shutting them out hard of late.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

This is a good time to remind folks the difference between

the Internet and an internet.

The Internet is distributed by mostly government-approved/controlled Internet Service Providers (ISPs).

But before they existed, internets existed.

Then why did ISPs take over? Well, they have the biggest pipes so people can have faster internet connectivity. That speed blasted out the old internet alternatives (for example, dial-up modems). You can bet your butt lots of groups prefer private internets to the Internet.

We need to be one of those groups...or at know how to connect to a non-gov controlled internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3br3AdsjZbM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgt8CC2i3vU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kc1Rewl-7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESaTREAAzww
http://www.bbscorner.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system#External_...

RON PAUL IS THE PEOPLE'S CHAMPION!

O.P. please add this to your post.

We have had this problem befor, we will have it again.
There was plans made for it. They can be found here: http://www.dailypaul.com/57698/updated-plan-b-c-if-daily-pau...

I printed it out and taped it to the inside of my "D.P. node book". Yes, I keep a list of node #'s and subjects. NO!, I do NOT have a full list (for those who where thinking about asking for a copy). Below is the original post.

YOUR servant for freedom, Clay Carey

Submitted by Jdayh on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 03:04
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+Vote up!-Vote down!A while back a thread was posted..but I searched for the thread...and I think it is gone...

I HOWEVER I saved it though...here is the up to date phone/conference call #

PLAN A:
----CONFERENCE CALL--WRITE THIS # DOWN AND PLACE IN SAFE PLACE easy to find-Fridge on your cell, etc....
CONFERENCE CALL TO BE HELD AT 12.00PM PST(3pm EST) and again at 6:00 pm PST(9pm EST) on the first Monday following any disruption of Daily Paul or the internet and each MONDAY AFTER THAT FOR A MONTH at least.... HERE IS THE # TO CALL IN ON:

NOTE: THIS IS AN UPDATED # THE COMPANY HOSTING THIS UPGRADED IT TO THIS ONE!Conference Number1-712-432-3030
THE BRIDGE NUMBER IS THE SAME!!
ENTER THIS Conference Bridge Number: 441554 and your on.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
PLAN B:
--- PHONE # ADDRESS DATABASE--CALL THIS VOICE MAIL IMMEDIATELY AND LEAVE YOUR INFORMATION BEFORE ANY THING HAPPENS!!!
THIS IS IN CASE THERE ARE too many people on the call or the internet is completely wiped out or off line. If you want to be contacted to be placed on a full land line conference call then you NEED TO CALL THIS # AND LEAVE YOUR NAME(any name-nick name is fine- you might want to use your login name or make one up)PHONE #, ADDRESS, AND EMAIL (not that you might ever get an email--since if the internet goes down,etc) YOU WONT GET A CALL UNLESS "the shit hits the fan so to speak" HERE IS THE VOICE MAIL # TO CALL FOR THAT:

UPDATED CONTACT #
Phone Number: 206-984-3579 (this is the updated phone # to call and leave info...

THIS IS DONE NOW ITS UP TO YOU TO WRITE DOWN BOTH OF THESE # 's Call the the PLAN B NUMBER AND PUT YOUR INFO,. IN THE PHONE BANK.
again you wont be contacted by anyone ,unless daily paul goes down.
--------------------------------
There is a plan C being developed as well....stay tuned for when its ready...WE WILL BE ORGANIZED AND READY...FOR WHATEVER "THEY" THROW AT US....

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You guys commmented too much

You guys commmented too much and the server overheated.. had to change out one of those "series of tubes" you know?

just kidding, just an odd crash and the way the server is configured, it takes a long time to reboot. I wish I had a way to failover to another server but right now it would take too much time and resources to work on

-marc

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A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. - Ben Franklin

Thanks for the info Marc

Glad you are not in IDWOCOT!

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Anyone actively

involved in the Paul campaign, this website or just an ardent supporter has a personal responsibility to other supporters to respond to suspicious or "fishy" incidents such as this in a super expedient manner. Taking a few moments to assuage DP members of their worries, or answering questions is not only considerate but also puts rumors and conspiracy to rest immediately.

Tin Foil Hat Time. The site

Tin Foil Hat Time.

The site was down for regular Homeland Security review. It is their job to keep us safe and if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about ;P

Kinda surprised no Mod/Michael comment on this

Hope they're not in indefinite detention w/o charge or trial.

LOL

GULP

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Im not surprised. This

Im not surprised. This Michael is clone. The NWO kidnapped the real Michael in 2008 and replaced him with a clone! I read about it on the internet.

I noticed this ones movements are

on the jerky side.

Clone eh, that explains it.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

NDDAed

no beer for me in the FEMA camps.

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“The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.” Dr. Ron Paul

As the Drunk said in "ARTHUR"

upon hearing Arthur had not had a drink in 30 days-
"Oh MY GOD!!"

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

RP campaign site is down again

smell fishy to me.

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“The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.” Dr. Ron Paul

Scroogle is still down

Not shut out by Google but actually down. I use it every day for years and have never seen it completely down.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

strange

but RP campaign site just got restored.

Website:
http://www.libertypoet.com/
Twitter:
http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
“The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.” Dr. Ron Paul

Be interesting to see if that goes down again today

for the 3rd time by my count.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

lol

Michael was just seeing if your all paying attention ;-) Naa..I have no Idea..Maybe it was anonymous seeing just how tough we really are and if we could handle going a little while without our DP fix..lol

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

When did the DP go down? I

missed it I guess..

"To create a great evil you must pervert a great good"

I would rather know why we're

I would rather know why we're losing it to these kind of posts as opposed to outages. Outages happen, for many reasons, and not all of them are conspiracies. They could be hosted at the same offsite facility and have a pipe down. This is after all a giant network of cables.

If you want to look outside of 'traffic' reason, look at fires, snow, drunk drivers hitting telephone poles. Not a server provider on this earth guarantees 100% uptime because 'shit happens' sometimes. Relax folks.

On the other side of the commentary, Michael doesn't have to post his contact info and there are outside resources to check the site status. You can PING it, DNS check the domain name, and the WHOIS contains contact information for him. Although you are urged not to use it to pummel him with things he most likely already knows; Like 'your site is down'.

Be patient and be cool :) When I get through all the posts and I start jonsin, I go read drudge, or pick up a book. Sometimes I even get out and canvas for the campaign :)

- Matt

Sincerely wanting to know the

Sincerely wanting to know the dynamics of the conspiracy trend is a courageous thing. Here is my take. The majority of online activists have sifted through the corners of the web looking at material the average person: doesn't know exists, Doesn't know how to look for, or Is interesting, but is taboo.

Since the rise of sites such as Youtube These once unavailable videos (very well produced)include public figures that have went massively viral and have not been properly addressed by our public figures.

For an example, search New World Order in youtube and select the filter for longer than 20 min. see the views?. Take notice of the like bar as well as the amount of views as well as the amount of pages.

Apathy to the "believers or open minded individuals becomes overwhelming over time(at least 10-15 yrs) as the evidence stacks up without effective recourse, having access to a world of information that is unacceptable to the very people that actually represent change. The mindset of the older generation in government can be seen as the habits of old and status quo. Ron

Paul comes into the picture. The online activists realize quickly Even though he doesn't go around spouting conspiracy theories he has addressed the proper solutions, can affect change and lets the situation speak for itself.

Ron Enters the fray only speaking the truth, and what you see is attention building for someone entering the power structure, whom we can follow and judge reality based on his wisdom and standard of truth. This was once distant to us and the younger generation who were not politically involved.

They more decisive have learned not to call everything a conspiracy and to speak on factual evidence. But they are on edge and would like to see some acknowledgment to some of their highest concerns where reasonably applicable. Just Like when everyone screams that They are censoring Ron with the black out.

Michael Nystroms blog is grassroots blog and a link to an exciting political movement that people realize they can Effect change.

I only became aware from interest out of health situations from people around me. Which lead to research into Gov Corruption which lead me here.

Thanks for the ping DNS Ideas.
And Yes most people here were joking with conspiracy on the back burner of their mind.

Don't think anyone is calling conspiracy other than joking at

this point. Also, think most/all realize there are plenty of simple/common explanations for such occurrences.

I think the OP and others were just seeking any info that may be known to the DP PTB about this specific occurrence.

I will say however, besides what I noted below in my earlier comment, I have experienced some other problems w/ the net(not my connection/ISP) today. Multiple things that have not occurred together before began w/i a brief period of time.

Again, many normal/routine explanations for these things but it would be also inappropriate for anyone knowledgeable to deny that the means, desire and precedent exists for deliberate and targeted disruption.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

DP Website Status - TWITTER!

When it's DOWN, Mr. Nystrom can tweet the reason and even people without Twitter accounts can access and see the status.

Rights are like muscles; you must exercise them to keep them fit, or they will atrophy and die.

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Both Sites Down?...Its Charlie Webster, The Maine Mafia Chief...

You'll have to answer for Santino...

Yes I noticed that

Yes I noticed that www.ronpaul2012.com was down at the same time too. That's strange I wasn't going to say anything because I thought maybe my computer was just slow.
We may need some sort of Web rally point for important times of delivering information.

If no one can come up with one I say If an important event comes up and the site is down just check youtube and type in Ron Paul and select the option for latest video.

Maybe a phone number (landline)

to receive a brief recorded message? I am not high tech.
I'm sure someone can improve on this idea. ;)

Pieter's picture

Facebook

Facebook

NO FACEBOOK!

Some of us are smart enough to not participate in FaceGovtDatabaseBook - every time someone posts there and links it to here WE DON'T SEE IT. We don't even look.

SOMEPLACE ELSE, PLEASE.

Rights are like muscles; you must exercise them to keep them fit, or they will atrophy and die.

Smart enough to not participate on Facebook?

Unless I'm mistaken, DailyPaul.com is a website. But, I'm SURE it is absolutely not being watched by anyone other than the members here. Yes, this one site is locked down tighter than Fort Knox.

No reason to think that something as simple as sniffer software could get anyone's password during the clear text transmission of logins.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~ Margaret Mead

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The point is, with Facebook

The point is, with Facebook we give over TONS more personal information without the need of any sort of "theft" to obtain it.

Government (NSA - DARPA) are already admittedly at it.

Cos Cob, CT

True, BUT

Even if one doesn't use Facebook, "they" (or any regular Joe with a little know-how) can still collect tons of personal info on others. Facebook, and the internet in general, just makes it minutely easier. Best bet is to keep in mind that once you put something on the internet, it will NOT go away. Ever.

That said, I don't use Facebook, but more because of the drama than anything else.

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