Winning California's 172 delegates - how?
Submitted by Minarchist on Mon, 02/13/2012 - 13:27in
Latest poll results:
33% Romney
17% Gingrich
9% Paul
31% Santorum
3% Other
http://abc30.typepad.com/abc-30-blogs/2012/02/poll-romney-sa...
Santorum sudden increase indicates there is room for growth here for anyone, including Paul. But I don't see him spending any time in California. May is not the time to start paying attention here.
How about using that jet and having a few rallies in half-a-dozen cities -- San Diego, LA, Fresno, SF bay area, Sacramento, Redding -- over a couple of days?
















I've been looking at the 2010
I've been looking at the 2010 U.S. House results by Congressional District and here's what I got (in parenthesis, I'll put the vote for Republican candidates)
Solid/Lean Dem (32): CA-1 (31%), CA-5 (25%), CA-6 (30%), CA-7 (32%), CA-8 (15%), CA-9 (11%), CA-10 (38%), CA-12 (22%), CA-13 (28%), CA-14 (28%), CA-15 (32%), CA-16 (24%), CA-17 (26%), CA-18 (42%), CA-23 (38%), CA-27 (35%), CA-28 (22%), CA-29 (32%), CA-30 (32%), CA-31 (16%), CA-32 (29%), CA-33 (14%), CA-34 (23%), CA-35 (21%), CA-36 (45%), CA-37 (23%), CA-38 (27%), CA-39 (33%), CA-43 (35%), CA-47 (39%), CA-51 (40%) & CA-53 (34%)
The other 21 Congressional Districts are Republican but I'll put it up in a separate post.
Note: I think it would also be a good idea to invite any friends you have that are third party or independents to register Republican for Ron.
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Door to door, face to face has been proven to be the ace high, number one, way to combate the media black out and disinformation campaign and win votes for Dr. Paul. I have almost completed a precinct here in San Diego, and will be moving on to another. Contact your local meet up and be the chairman of your precinct, then go do it. THAT IS HOW WE WIN, FOLKS! GO! GO! GO!!
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The importance of Spanish language materials
Would seem like a no-brainer in California and Texas.
Not that most Hispanics, voters anyway, can't understand
English, but, as a poster put it in a thread we had going
on the subject before, having it in Spanish speaks to the
heart.
I know some people in Florida made up some Spanish
language materials - maybe those could be used as-is
or adapted for California?
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I like it.
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Victory strategy
What I don't understand is why Ron Paul's campaign isn't embracing what enabled it to be created: viral videos and explanatory interviews.
We can do more for Paul's campaign by spreading viral videos than by him giving stump speeches that repeat each other. he can help us - and thereby himself - by featuring them in a feed on his campaign page. Well, not all of them. His campaign wants to put forth a certain image - and that's fine. they should feature the videos that mesh with that vision.
What do I mean? Check out my Google+ page for the videos I'm putting out there. Share them if you agree.
gplus.to/JordanDHShaw
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no one is using g+ ;)
have a youtube playlist?
but good idea. he should have answer on the most discussed topics. He is always great with his common sense with backing of the constitution.
short 5 minute videos one each topic that we could share. often questions pop up in internet discussions. sometimes the best to let the doc speak.
His texas straight talks are great for example. he is really a master to deliver things in detailed but short and on point answers..
how can we get something like this to the campaign?
we could vote on the most needed topics.. revpac could maybe film this?
If there's enough support
If enough of us are behind the idea here, we can pass it on collectively through administrative channels.
Those of us who do use Google+ tend to be the more articulate, intelligent, and concise internet users. It's the right place to be for intelligent debate and information. However,my profile is public so that you don't have to join G+ to see what I'm writing. Moreover, G+ can do mailing lists.
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yeah I like it too
and its better then fb but my friends are not interested in intelligent discussion ;)
could not access your videos..
Public posts
I didn't upload them as videos. They're links in my stream.
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I KNOW most people in California are PAUL supporters
Remember it's a democratic territory BUT Paul is BIG HERE!!!
IF he loses California it would have to be rigged. Remember what happened at he battle of Athens? Why can't Americans defend the votes at least in a manner that will scare off the frauds.
I wish it were true but Sorry
I wish it were true but Sorry to inform you but not everyone is a RP supporter in CA. You may have a different perspective and experience than mine but this what Ive seen. I live in Santa Cruz/Bay Area (witch is mostly Democrats) and there is a lot of rejection of RP from both parties. I know because I do grassroots campaigning and talk to people on the battle field witch does feel like a battle sometimes. I even had someone today at a farmers market RP tabling event say he thinks there should be bigger government to take care of us! I try not to waist breath on someone I can not convince to vote RP. What other RP supporter and I found works best is to use Obama to our advantage because he is popular. So we made a sign asking a simple question "Does our president support local organic foods?" then we have another one showing the connection of Monsanto and the Obama administration. After they come over and talk to us because Monsanto is basic the devil in CA we can swing them to RP. This seems to work very well in my area.
RP does have a very good chance to win a lot of delegates in CA because there are so few (R) here and day by day we are getting Green party,Independent and Democrats to switch (R) to vote RP.
Very good work!
You've found a local interest and an affinity group way of reaching out. That's the essence of organizing. Great work!
I've been wondering about the whole organic thing, as an outreach tool. I didn't know if the issue has legs. Sounds like it does. Thanks for the information.
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The Drug War is the issue to hit
In California (and the rest of the nation) people need to understand the difference between Ron Paul and each of his opponents, including the current president.
That issue isn't getting across and it's huge.
California led the nation into the medical marijuana advances we've seen and now is under assault by the federal government.
You want to find new Ron Paul supporters, those not registered and/or not voting Republican?
Get 'em on this issue by the boatload.
Register/Absentee Ballot and do it around the Drug War issue.
This would work in every state but because there's still time in California to work in an effective Absentee Ballot campaign, this is where it's at.
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I don't know about that JP
Registering AV/ Absentee Voter, so one can receive an Absentee Ballot: Once the registration card is sent to the County Clerk, it becomes an inside job. I get everything through the mail, sample ballots, notices, ballots. There is no way to poll the voter independently, by anyone or organization.
We've all been forced to vote absentee voter. A couple of years ago, a few million investment built the C.V. Starr Recreation Center, yet, uncompleted, it has dog park, skate park, olympic pool attached to a warmed wading pool and "Lazy river" for resistance walking and arobics, slides, fountains, huge locker rooms and nice showers, state of the art gym with all digital equipment, work out rooms, conference rooms and plans to build more. It is operated by volunteers, including the director, and last year, declaired unsustainable.
I've gone to a couple of meetings there, and twice I've gone to use the pool. It costs $8.00. With all the bells and whistles, there is no way to line up activities, so, I never actually used the pool because I really didn't think I would spend that much time.. many claimed it was over clorinated.
Recently there was a push to give the pool to the city to operate, since they've bled money and of course, the city wanted a sales tax to operate it. It was the only issue on the February ballot. The paper reported that it passed by a huge margin, so now we pay 9% sales tax to shop locally. I don't know anyone who voted for it personally. I read letters to the editor and there was of course a big visable push for the tax, but this is the second tax that has been added to us, Library was the other, and locals were worried that we are overtaxing ourselves to run operations most locals don't use and why they fail. We have no way to recount, we just have to trust our government.
I live in the Emerald Triangle, where marijuana has been a legal crop, but since last Summer and the murders to two high profile people Ex Mayor Jere Melo and Land Trust manager/state park interpreter Matt Coleman, most kind laws have been rebuked, and in yesterday's paper, war was declared. Many people here grow for themselves, some grow commercially, and the majority of the county voted down legalization because we actually liked our laws. They worked for us, where we sustained the Sheriff, not the city. But Oakland has other plans for legalization, and while the majority here are against Oakland and the urban plan, it is being FORCED on us,,, so the war on drugs issue from Ron's perspective is not that great, as he says give it to the states... well we all know what the state of CA wants to do... as the state of CA, doesn't like people to "steal" what it claims is theirs... tax money.. I'm with those who don't want it taxed to grow a police state... I see that growing even a bigger police atate and more police jobs to enforce and imprison for labor, pot heads that don't have a license, certificate, recommendation or God forbid me giving the state more ideas on how to tax marijuana for state development through taxes. It does NOTHING for my cannabis passion: industrial hemp.
The liberals who want taxes won't vote for Paul, and the Libertarians really do fear the government growth and power with the idea, that whatever the state wants, the state gets under Ron Paul.
I quit talking about it because it's a HOT personal issue, and the only solution is to go back from where we were last year. Conspiracy wacko that I am, I believe these murders were not as the paper would have us believe, after all, the annoucement yesterday that the war was on, just enforces my idea.. no one wanted a war here, but the state didn't like this county voting NO en mass on their legalization plan.
People are being killed by the State government over this and I would prefer at this point the feds to stop it and free us from the tyranny the state is issuing in the name of justice.
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
Why Absentee
Many prefer those mail ballots. I prefer them. They are hot as a consumer choice not as a dictate. You probably were forced into them due to low population, difficulty in having many polling places to serve so few.
The reason for Paul supporters to use that process is simply because it exists, it's a very large part of GOTV, in many places, as in California, it's the primary tool in the GOTV effort, it's the thing you build the GOTV around.
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Many do not prefer those ballots
I sat in for a friend and worked an election in Albion, where the population is far less than Fort Bragg. Albion was no different that when I was prescinct inspector for North Manhattan Beach/ El Porto. Locals LOVE showing up to the polls, seeing each other, standing around the parking lots chatting, greeting, wearing their little stickers proudly. It's a community event. People in Fort Bragg, drove all the way to Albion to deliever the AVB just to part take in the community.
The fact you have no recount in AVB, no outside poll... most folks here HATE them. They have divided out community from the government who right or left, don't trust elections anymore. There are plenty of people and places to have a poll operate happily... I'm wit thiose who think the government doesn't want us to meet and greet and talk about the issies... we might all agree we're being lied to (I think we all agree anyways).
Yes, Individuals have their reasons, and I'm ALL FOR Personal Profit from farming pot. If you make millions growing pot, AWESOME! Make more! Spend it here!! I'd rather individuals who are working make the money that the government take it to build their police state. But that's me. I like privatization and shrinking the government to a thread.
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same ballot
It's the same ballot, same card stock, same just about everything. It's subject to the same counting procedures.
It does add the additional element of an envelope with signature of the person returning it, printed name and date.
It's not an entire paper trail but it's at least as good as anything offered at the polls.
I too like privatization, which is why I don't want government controlling, in any way, which weeds one wishes to grow.
The profit comes thru connivance with and tolerance of government intrusion.
Show me one grower who adds value to the weed and I'll show you someone who doesn't actually exist.
The profit is extreme. It's a weed.
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Yes same ballot
I should have said, many prefer to go to the polls, which have an advantage, in that as a poll worker, we posted and updated voting logues, which anyone could come and see who had voted and what party... the political parties paid people to observe. Now, there is none of that. I doubt many people bother to keep their voters recipt.
Legalization is how the government controls.
I think any grower who is not occupying parks and land trusts with armed illegal grows adds tremendous value in public safety. In Southern CA open grows produce far better product than the hydroponic indoor grows in NorCal.
If the government went after PG&E for selling massive energy for these indoor grows it would curb things, but it seems it's more about controlling people, not the corporations behind it.
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individuals have individual reasons
So I don't know what's on the mind of every person.
For a commercial grower, it's money. They don't want to legalize because it renders their crop useless, as they add nothing of value, simply skate on the high prices brought on by illegality.
State and local government as a replacement for feds is no panacea. Essentially, though Paul might stammer out an alternate view, we've got that. Most federal bucks are spent locally. In the end we've got local government and all the wonderful drug busts and other intrusions...so, local government isn't all that hot either. Paul sees it from the congressional perspective, and he says at least trim the feds. I go along with that, but recognize we've got a long ways to go from there.
As for taxes on the stuff, obviously those are bad, and why tax it? It's a weed, expect it to grow and let people deal with their own weeds in their own way. No services created to help the weeds grow, no need for a tax.
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Ron Paul needs to go on KFI.
Ron Paul needs to go on KFI. It's the biggest talk radio station in Southern California (I believe in the nation even) and it's very popular among Republican voters. This could give him some publicity.
https://twitter.com/#!/cevans93
On whose show though?
They all dismiss or deride him.
Areas for Ron Paul to make
Areas for Ron Paul to make some gain:
North State:
San Francisco: area home for Peter Thiel. Lots of young professional's disinfranchised with Obama. Want the end to the war, believe in personal choice. Gay community would respond well to his stay out of my bedroom stance. Would rally around Paul like the kids at the college campuses. Swing up to Redding in the North State, a mix of conservative farmers and liberal North Coasters who want the Feds off there back for selling Medicinal Marijuana. This is a huge industry for that area of the state. We voted to make it legal and they are hurting from the Fed crack down. Stockton: about to declare bankruptcy would respond well to his economic plan.
South State:
Fresno: Lots of farmers who want the EPA out of their hair. San Diego: Military town, would like his Foreign Policy.
Note: the Republican Party in California is falling apart. They would be smart to support Dr. Paul and the young energy her could bring to the party. The Paul campaign should reach out to them.
What about Meet-ups and planning for get out the vote? I see no signs anywhere. If we start now we can make some serious impact on key areas. It is a big state but we are a big grass roots group. Let's make it happen. Anyone have information on any Paul organizers in the North State?
Wowl...someone else has noticed there are no Ron Paul
signs here either.
THE CENTRAL VALLEY VOTES RED. LOOK IT UP IN A HISTORY BOOK.
CaliforniaGirlForPaul
sure
In the California GOP primary every part of the state is red.
In a general, we can say the Central Valley tends to go red. In this primary, San Francisco will be voting red.
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connect connect make it happen
the campaign is maybe too busy and gets thousands of ideas...
check there maybe?:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?135-California
I bet you can get something going. if you have a plan you may even get some rich guys donating(peter thiel!)
honker and you are already two who seem to have a plan!!! bet there are more in that area!
I believe most of
I believe most of California's delegates are awarded by congressional district. If Ron can pick a handful of congressional districts, say 5-20, he could pick up a pretty sizable amount of delegates. It is up to the campaign to determine which districts are most liberty-friendly.
I should have mentioned this first, but the place to pick up a huge amount of delegates are in the cities like San Francisco. I worked on the Dennis campaign and there was something like 6-9k registered Republicans in the ENTIRE city. We went door to door to high propensity voters and finished in ONE DAY! The cities have huge amounts of population and thus have large amounts of delegates, but turn out is so low because there aren't that many Republicans. That is how we win delegates.
If anybody would look at the history of where the Red Votes are
they are in the San Joaquin Valley....the Central Valley.........to the point of when the people talk about splitting the state into 3 small states, the Central Valley is it's own state because mentally,culturally, they are RED and the rest of the state is BLUE.....based on voting history records the central Valley votes REPUBLICAN...that's not my opinion...it is fact.
This is a well known fact here in California.
CaliforniaGirlForPaul
BlueRepublic is right
Paul's stances on military and drug war (all civil liberties issues) are an easier sell in the pro civil liberties areas than in the pro government in the bedroom communities.
As for Central Valley being red, sure, it is, and in the general election that matters.
It's not a factor in the primary.
This is a Republican primary. Every part of the state is red. Every part of the state will vote.
And, Paul outreach everywhere is good. Go for it!
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CaliforniaGirl (I wish they all could be..)
I appreciate your motivation and frustration, but I'm not sure that
the traditionally red areas are where we stand to have a decent
chance of succeeding with limited resources.
I might be wrong, but consider the points that some others have
brought up, please. In some of the liberal areas there are very few
Republicans *at all* and there are numbers of disaffected independents,
Dems and Greens who are done with Obama. So a relatively small
number of people (that a volunteer, on the ground effort,
might be able to deliver) could deliver a CD that might take a lot
more resources to get someplace else.
In any case, as JP Slevin has pointed out, anything other than
a targeted approach to the situation is a big waste of resources.
Blue "straight outta Merced" Republic
I give up.
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CaliforniaGirlForPaul