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Going Off Grid - Montana Style!

The concept of off-grid living is often encumbered by numerous false assumptions and associations. Many think that to delve into the lifestyle you must be either a grizzled anti-social mountain man, a pompous starry-eyed hippie, or, a criminal on the lam. The spectrum of characterizations range from “kooky” bunker building militia members to spoiled Al Gore worshipping vegan hipsters out to prove they are better than everyone else by reducing their “carbon footprint”. The point is, for the average television-fed American, the idea of off-grid life automatically conjures visions of the extreme.

I believe this reaction is due in large part to our society’s obsession with feeling “connected”. Ever challenge a friend or family member to go without touching their cell phone for a day? Ever ask them to shut off their TV and see if they can find other ways to occupy themselves? Ever ask them to leave modern conveniences behind, if only for a weekend, to take part in some simple camping? I can say that in my own experience, nine out of ten people will stare at you pale faced like you just kicked them square in the loins. For them, leaving behind the buzz of our make-believe culture is the same as stepping outside of time, or abandoning one’s very identity. The whole suggestion is alien.

Luckily, here in Montana, I’ve encountered far hardier souls than in most other places, and the pursuit of an existence disconnected from dependence on the system is not treated as quite so outlandish. In fact, many here have taken the leap into self-sufficiency and gone 100% off-grid. I was lucky enough to meet one of these pioneers recently, and take a tour of his farm, but what interested me most about him were his origins, which were rooted about as far away from his current environment as you can get…

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I agree with a lot of this

I think though being relatively self sufficient is something people do better on their own terms.

For instance, I prefer to go with sustainable agriculture (aquaponics with land animal components) and cob/adobe construction. I'd like to build my own natural pool too. I would also go nuts if I couldn't keep doing research and probably lose my socialization skills again to depression.

I don't want to be without various convenience and I'd rather center a life around relaxation, research and enjoyment. Also, I think it would be morally wrong to exclude myself from the marketplace so I should at least produce somewhat more than I need.

That's not to say I couldn't be hardy in this manner, I simply see it as more stable. I'm not some hippy or mountain man, I just can't make it financially. There are no opportunities for me here for employment in the field in which I got my degree taxation. I make less than $8k a year preparing taxes barely part time for people who make a lot more money than me as well as doing basic auditing of books year round. I'm actually pretty good at tax prep, I understand tax planning a little, I can handle most clients on my own and I'm a hard worker but at $12/hour w/ no benefits after a year and 3 mos with less than 12 hours in most weeks. The problem is I don't have my masters, I'm not willing to go back to school just so I can take the CPA to change people's perception of me and people act like you need a CPA to do taxes when you actually need an Enrolled Agent certification. I'm simply at the end of the line and don't really have that many other alternatives. I get called in to interviews just so that they can laugh at me because I don't have this or that or enough experience.

And look who is running for Governor of Montana,

and see his running mate, Chuck Baldwin. http://fanning-baldwin.com/?p=1540

Chuck Baldwin withdrew from the race -

http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montana/article_a9c...

The DP is proof that the grassroots support for Ron Paul and his peaceful message of individual liberty is large, real, and not going away!

Great point

I think we can do something about the outcome of this race.

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I read through the first entry.

Interesting site. I'll bookmark it for later reading.

Montana was one of the states on my list while deciding where I wanted to start my off-grid adventure.

Beautiful country and the land is inexpensive, especially remote raw land. They say that Montana is one of the top states for distance between neighbors... if space is what you're looking for.

Thanks Legal.

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last but not least

There are lots of Ron Paul supporters in Montana -- Ron Paul country.
Another good indication it's a great state is that pastor Chuck Baldwin moved there from Florida.

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I chose Alaska

for various reasons. One was the size and population density.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_populati...

Another was the vast abundance of wildlife because of the size. The cold weather and remoteness combined would keep most people out.

Over 2 times the size of Texas.
1/6th the size of all of the lower 48 combined.
population of less than 700,000 living in all of that land with the great majority living in tow of the largest cities. (Anchorage: around 330,000 and Fairbanks: a little over 100,000 I think) The rest are spread out.

Land is inexpensive and plentiful.

It's a harsh place to live sometimes but I look forward to it.

Oh and no poisonous snakes!!! I hate snakes...seriously.. not scared of them, just very very very cautious. :)

I've dealt with snakes a little too much for my comfort.

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Good choice

I live in Canada and also hate snakes & winter is no problem for me I wear army style shorts at times even in January when it's 20F out there - 40% of the body heat escapes from the head so as long as you have something covering your head you will be ok.

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Hey, we'll be neighbors too. :)

When I get my home set up, I'll invite you over for some homemade mead. If you like hunting and fishing maybe we could do some of that as well. Bring some friends if you like, I'll probably need some firewood cut.

Small cabin so bring tents too. :)

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Awesome

I lived for 15 or so years in Vancouver B.C. 3 hour flight time to Anchorage.
Right now in Toronto.

Love tenting love hunting fishing and just being free in the woods away from the TV...

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Cool. I'm sure there are plenty of others up that way too.

Maybe we could have a gathering on my land around June or July.. We'll see what happens. :)

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Patriot

This 2012 is the Spring Time of the We The People.
Let's first of all do all to help elect the good doc to the highest office then we can go onto other things.

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Just because I move doesn't mean I stop supporting Dr.Paul

nor does my planning a get together for other Patriots diminish my stance in any way.

Just taking Dr.Paul's advice and having fun with it. If you or anyone else isn't interested in getting together for whatever reasons, that's their choice.

My plans to prepare for the coming economic crash are important as well. That includes buying land to prepare.

I'll just have to drink your share of mead. :)

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truth is you are at the very front

Showing others what freedom is all about.

You are an example.

We are all Ron Paul.

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Funny. :)

and yes we are.

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