Why do Truthers gravitate to Ron Paul?
Whenever Dr. Paul goes on a hostile program, the host(s) bring up Iran building 'the bomb' or the association between Paul and conspiracy theorists. Though Ron has gone on the record several times to say that he does not believe that the 2001 WTC attacks were perpetrated by our own government, it still comes up.
The cause of the Truthers' gravitation to Dr. Paul is not hard to understand if one examines just a few key points. The Neo-conservative think tank The Project for a New American Century advocated the military domination of large regions of the globe by fighting and winning multiple major theatre wars. PNAC also indicated a desire for a "new Pearl Harbor" in order to galvanize public sentiment in favor of American militarism. 9/11 was exactly that.
Then, the 9/11 commission failed to answer many questions, the answers to which would have been politically damaging, and the executive branch was unjustifiably uncooperative towards the investigation. The secrecy of this administration is unprecedented in American history.
It is this government secrecy, combined with the seeming desire of certain members of the Bush administration to have a new Pearl Harbor in order to justify many otherwise unthinkable policy shifts that make up the core of the "Inside Job" notion.
The attacks have been used to justify not only the war, but the Enabling Act and other damage to our civil liberties, intense secrecy, and increased federal power and spending. These are issues extremely pertinent to the Revolution, that is, Ron Paul wants to end the Iraq war and the policy of interventionism, prevent encroachment upon civil liberties, open government up to the light of day, and decrease federal power and spending.
Whether or not Ron believes as the Truthers believe makes little difference, they are attracted to his campaign because of his honesty and because he wants to undo the damage done by the Neo-Con usurpers who have mainly been riding the momentum of public bewilderment that ensued after 9/11.
no disrespect, no disrespect
I wasn't trying to be derogatory, I'm 100% sure that we've been lied to, 100% sure that fire didn't bring down wtc 7, and 99% sure that no amateur pilot was in charge of those planes on that day.
I was just trying to explain why Ron is such a hit even though he consistently denies sharing that sentiment. But I think Ron knows...
"To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
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"To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
I can't take it anymore ...
What in heck is wrong with being a TRUTHER (ie. someone who wants to know the TOTAL truth of what went down on Sept 11, 2001), and why are we supporters of Ron Paul so afraid of being associated with them?? Does anyone here honestly think that EVERYTHING we've heard and read about 9/11 is the truth? Since when are we afraid of taking a position that is out of the mainstream of ideas? We have no problem supporting numerous other non-mainstream ideas such as the legalization of drugs, abolishing the Fed, opposing government involvement in Education, opposing the UN, and on and on and on. Why? Because we know these policies are right, and we're not worried that they might be unpopular at the moment. Being right and supporting the TRUTH no matter what the consequences has always been our mantra. Until now, it seems.
Is the problem that being a "truther" has come to mean that you believe that the US Gov staged the attacks? While I'm doubtful that the Gov is competent enough to pull something like 9/11 off, have we forgotten how many other times our wonderful benevolent Government HAS been involved in horrible attrocities? Does Waco ring a bell with anyone here? How about Ruby Ridge? Iran/Contra? Watergate? Vince Foster? Gulf of Tonkin? Roosevelt's refusal to take Jewish refugee's during WWII? The Tuskegee syphillis attrocities? Do I need to go on?
Finally, one of my biggest complaints is that we've let the term 'truther' become a derogatory term - kind of like being a supporter of the Constitution and true freedom makes you an extremist. Use to be that seeking the truth was honorable. Is in not anymore? How about we return to showing a little courage, and standing up for what we believe, and damn the consequences.
I take my marching orders from the Constitution!
Oh yeah...
And JFK, too.
I'm not being sarcastic.
"To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
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"To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
Can't take it anymore
Thanks MDKidd! My thoughts exactly....I'm glad someone finally said it. Ron Paul for President!!
When freedom is at stake, silence is not golden – it is yellow- Tom Anderson writer patriot. 1910-2001
"Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
truthers want RP because
they dont want another 911, thats why! he's the only one they can trust not to pull another staged terror attack and put us into an even more oppressive police state. whether you agree with the truthers or not, they are just as scared of the likes of giuliani or hillary or anyone else in the white house as any of us are.i'm a truther, though i dont blend that in my campaigning for ron paul.i still have fears of anyone else being president.
you're exactly right; boil it down to this:
There will be no false flag terror under President Paul.
Since we can't change the past, that's the only thing which is of pragmatic significance in this controversy. We can sort out 9/11 (and everything else) once we've elected Ron Paul.
Now hit the streets; time's a-wasting.
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The answer to the question
The answer to the question is simple. Dr. Paul is the only candidate calling for a new, independent investigation.
Beat me on this one.
You're absolutely right about this. While he has said that he doesn't believe that the White House had anything to do with 9/11, he also said that he doesn't necessarily believe everything that government investigators have to say, and would like to see a more complete, independent investigation. And also, have you noticed that "Truthers" has taken a derogatory connotation and is applied to anybody who really doesn't buy into the party line? Having done a bit of investigating myself into the "Truthers," I find there to be an awful lot of good, intelligent, thoughtful, and decent people associated with wanting to know more about the 9/11 "incidents."
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God bless them, but...
I don't happen to subscribe to their beliefs. One of the many reasons I support Ron Paul is because in part I agree that 911 was caused by our foreign policy in the Middle East. That does not mean that we should stop looking for the people responsible for 911 to bring them to justice, but going into Iraq removed focus from where it should have been and where it ought to be now. Now the neocons are talking about going into Iran, a country the size of Alaska with a terrain that is probably just as challenging. Where does it end?
Drain the swamp!
What the truthers beleive is
What the truthers beleive is just a scenario among many that could happen if we allow our country to go in the general direction that it is. I doubt it can ever go as far as the most extreme truthers think. But the principle of the matter is that Ron Paul is in so far such an honest man, that even people that are relatively weary of our goverments direction can really synch up to his campaign.
Ron Paul 08
Ron Paul 08
the heart of "trutherism"
I think us "truthers", right or wrong, are folks who are not afraid to dig deeply into an issue even if such digging uncovers things that nobody wants to believe.
At heart then, even if Dr. Paul disagrees with us on the most-likely cause of the 9-11 tragedy, he's a "truther" himself... in the areas of the monetary system and the encroachment of the repressive state.
I think they do it for just one reason.
Dr. Paul may disavow their theories (as I do, in many cases) but they know that Dr. Paul is honest as the day is long, and they're attracted to that kind of personality-trait for some strange reason...
JMR
Yeah, really, if you believe
Yeah, really, if you believe that stuff your only option is to downsize the Federal Government so it won't happen again, it's all that would correct the situation. If these people really existed in our government, who could perform such actions, you'd never be able to touch them directly.
To be honest though I just don't think we're that fascist yet, that's like, 20 years down the road if our movement totally dies.
20 Years
...isn't that far away.
Yeah, but without Paul in 20
Yeah, but without Paul in 20 years we'll have universal health care, mandatory mental illness testing in kids, the North American Union, World War III going in the middle east, completely devalued currency the world no longer trades in, ect. I can see an insider 9-11 occurring more easily in that setting.
A question for the truthers though. (Whom to be honest I think have a decent case, look at MKUltra.)
Who supposedly orchestrated the whole thing?
They do it for a variety of reasons but...
They take away from Dr. Paul's message of liberty, limited government, and the Constitution.
yep and trust in Paul
yep and trust in Paul because of his long record based these principles.