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Holy Freaking Crap ! They killed my FB friend ... Shot him dead holding 9 mo old grand kid !

Holy Sh*t people ... I run a FB news page called Red Pill Post news he was a subscriber ... http://www.facebook.com/pages/Red-Pill-Post-News/16011022067...

This guy was also a personal FB friend ... a friend of a friend who would often comment on my posts and visa versa ... I JUST LEARNED SOME FREAKING COWBOY who has shot DEAD 6 people in the last 10 years ... SHOT HIM DEAD ... while holding his 9 month old grandson ... he had no weapon and was no threat ... WTF ... I am bugging out right now ... this does not help my anti-government Paranoia one freaking bit ...

Here is the link ...

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/189732/44/Man-shot-to-deat...

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They do it because they hate

They do it because they hate our freedom!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I'm sorry for your loss and his family

I'm very sorry.

What do you mean by a

What do you mean by a freaking cowboy? Please be more specific and accurate in your description. Are you trying to give cowboys a bad name? Being a cowboy is a real job that a lot of people identify with.

Police kill people all the

Police kill people all the time in America. I'm only surprised more people aren't aware of it but given our state loving media I guess I shouldn't be. Read through some of these and you'll find this is fairly typical:

http://www.theagitator.com/category/police-professionalism/

Outrageous.

I've watched this develop over these last few decades. Cops have gone from public servants to public scourges and they have only themselves to blame.
Remember when entrapment was illegal? Well today's cops break laws to enforce laws, and the actors on the bench are culpable in their refusal to deny the cops this activity. No small wonder this cop has killed seven people now, justified or not, he knows he'll never face true justice for his actions so he will kill again. It might be me, or you next time, but he'll walk free never the less.
It's scenes like this sad affair, and my heart breaks for the family of the victims, that cause me to fully realize that should I ever be called before a so called judge that I'm already guilty in that actors eyes. Why? Because I'm not a cop, or a corporitist, a politician, or a lawyer, that's why.
Cops need to learn something, respect and trust are both earned, and they are running deficits.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

Lew Rockwell did a story on this ...

He was my FB buddy and a subscriber to my news site ... This does not help my anti-government paranoia ... being the child of Russian Immigrants whose families were murdered by the government this just freaks me out ...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/105927.html

Killer on the Loose: Grandpa 'Armed' With Baby Is SWAT Veteran's Seventh Kill

Posted by William Grigg on February 17, 2012 12:51 PM

Scottsdale Police Officer James Peters, a former SWAT operative previously involved in six fatal officer-involved shootings, killed John Loxas II Tuesday night (February 14) while the 50-year-old grandfather was holding a baby.

Although police “could see that the suspect had the baby in his arms” just before Peters fired the fatal shot, Loxas was unarmed, according to a Scripps wire service account. “After several calls for Loxas to exit the home, he opened the door with the baby in his left hand, and stood just inside the doorway…. Officers then saw Loxas reach down to his right, lowering the baby and exposing his head and upper body. Peters then responded to the movement with a single shot to Loxas’ head.”

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"Grandpa 'Armed' With Baby Is SWAT Veteran's Seventh Kill"

The title says it all!

What do they mean, he was

What do they mean, he was threatening people...WTF is that? Not that it matters what the guy may or may not have SAID, saying things shouldn't get you executed.

Man, if this keeps up, and people start getting a little more nervous, they're going to start taking preemptive measures against the cops. If there are any good cops out there, they better start policing their own real soon or the people are going to end up doing the job themselves.

This pig has been doing a lot of shooting at people. Most cops, one shooting, especially a killing, and it affects them for a long time. Others, seems like they can't get enough.

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This is the scary part

from the article:
Officer Peters, who fired the fatal shot, has been involved in seven shootings over the past decade.
Six of those have been fatal, and all have been ruled justified.

Cops today free to murder.

Sent it to Drudge, He picked it up!

I sent this article to Drudge in hopes he would pick it up!

He picked it up!

Complete outrage!

Maximum Liberty, Minimum Government

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I don't want to upset the person who posted this thread, but here's another article that clarifies what the cop did and why. http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/2012/...

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

people don't have to be killed to be . . .

stopped.

The man does sound as though he has some 'issues', but--

a dirty house doesn't a bad grandparent make--

His behavior towards the neighbors needed to be investigated; he didn't have to be killed--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

When Hitler had the mentally ill killed...

...that was not BEFORE their diagnosis.

Mental health is top priority issue in the USA.

Ron Paul ... forever.

Good job...

...I saw it there!

Cuimhnigh orm, a Dhia, le haghaidh maith.

PTSD?

I didn't watch the video, but I just want to throw it out there: having a trigger finger is one of the symptoms of PTSD. It could be helpful for the solution, but it's not an excuse.

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Bad "news reporting".

How is he "threatening" anyone? And where was the cops taser? Why was that not used if he was "threatening"?

The days of the wise cop Andy Taylor and respectful Adam 12 cops, long gone. Its time to end the drug war and it time we take away the cops right to carry a gun. We need unarmed cops. They want to be brave, let them be unarmed.

We need Arizona State legislature or city governments to pass laws taking away all guns from cops. When to everyone's surprise, it "works", other States will slowly follow suit.

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Why should a person have his right to defend himself taken away?

An officer is a person first and foremost. Therefore that person, as any other, has a right to defend themself. Why should anyone have their right to carry a firearm for self defense stripped simply because they choose a career as a Law Enforcement Officer?
I, personally, refuse to be employed anywhere that has an enforced policy of "contractually required disarmament." An officer is no different. I agree with you that the cases of LEO unjustified killings, otherwise known as murder, are getting more outrageous, and numerous. But the problem here, and in nearly every case I've seen, is primarily a result of a hodgepodge of negligent mismanagement, and dereliction of duty, from the top down. If you stripped an individual's right to protect themselves in a justifiable and reasonable way, by removing a certain tool, then all you are changing is the headline appearing on nightly news. Instead of "X-county Cop claims man was armed, shoots him to death" you will see "X-county Cop claims man was armed, tasers him to death." In the tradition of argumentation, looking at a situation where an armed officer uses his sidearm to kill, possibly murder, an unarmed individual (seemingly) without just cause, and then determine that the cause such an outcome (a dead, seemingly innocent, individual) is the issuance of a firearm to LEOs, commits the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. In short, stating that the issuance of firearms to LEOs is the cause of this instance, or related instances, commits fallacies of false causation, over generalization, over simplification, attribution of false causes, a red herring, a straw man, and such a position is invalid.
I am in 100% agreement that the current, generally practiced, philosophy of Law Enforcement has brought about a functional tyranny disguised by a shiny badge and promise of public safety. But the answer is not to start stripping rights of individuals, whomever they may be.
Let's face it, there are bad people who are intent on hurting, and preying on, the innocent. If you do not believe this, then any legal justification for the 2nd amendment is rendered null and void (as a tyrannical government . Unlike one who does not wear the badge, the police officer, or sheriffs deputy, is one who is charged with the apprehension of criminal perpetrators, and then force those individuals to answer before a judge, and or, court of law. Many times, these individuals are less than willing to answer for their crimes, and are perfectly willing to endanger human life while attempting to escape judgement. If we hold the LEO responsible for the apprehension of criminal perpetrators, how would they protect themselves in the event that the perpetrator was armed with a firearm?
The bottom line is, as long as criminals carry guns, LEOs, and other individual citizens, will carry guns to be able to adequately meet the threat.

Tasers fire two probes at

Tasers fire two probes at angles which makes them pretty inaccurate. They would risk shooting a 9 month old with an electrical charged, barbed needle. Plus tasers range is 15 feet maxed out. The caller said the man had a gun, so would you walk up 15 to a man who was reportedly armed and making threats and try to shoot him with a stun gun? Lastly electrical current will flow through a person and into another if they are touching. The 9 month old baby would have been zapped with the same amount of amps as man..

That is a horrible story.

Condolences to that man's family, and it's great to hear that his grandson is okay.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Too many cops love their "toys"

I was outraged at the cops after being tazed while lying face down in the snow with my hands on my head. I now feel lucky I wasn't shot!

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." — Aleister Crowley (The Book of the Law/Liber Al Vel Legis)

Fire this clown

This officer obviously has trouble determining when someone is an imminent threat to bystanders or officers.

The most disturbing part of the article is this,

"Officer Peters, who fired the fatal shot, has been involved in seven shootings over the past decade.
Six of those have been fatal, and all have been ruled justified. "

This man is a disgrace to the honorable profession of upholding the rule of law.

That fucking pig should be

That fucking pig should be locked up and the key thrown away. Meanwhile, his police department should be making reparations with all the victims of that psycho's murders! 6 fatal shootings?!?! Once--I'll give the pig the benefit of the doubt. Twice--I'd be getting concerned that they're trigger-happy. Anything further, they should be on permanent desk duty. This murderer was playing James Bond with invented criminals.

How very sad!

What is going on? It seems like every day there is a new shooting by the police of an unarmed person. I know that the police do not have an easy or safe job but they need to be 100% sure that someone actually has a weapon before they decide to take a life. Some officers must still think they are in the military and evry suspect they encounter is the enemy.

Power

Give any human being power over others and this type of thing inevitably happens. Unfortunately, too many Americans think we need more cops with more power.

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." — Aleister Crowley (The Book of the Law/Liber Al Vel Legis)

He is a serial killer.

He is a serial killer. The latest killing makes seven.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-02-16/arizona...

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

A Higher Standard?

Why is it that if I kill someone because I “thought” they had a gun but did not, I would go to jail for murder while a professional wearing body armor with thousands of hours of training has a lower standard?

Logic would say more power and more training would equate to MORE BURDEN and RESPONSIBILITILY right?

Awe… I see the problem in my thinking… I used logic. So sorry.

Agree. I've always had a

Agree. I've always had a problem with this policy of shoot first, ask questions later.

What can *we* do?

Now that I've stepped back from the horror of this . . .

what can *we* (liberty lovers) do to help?

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

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The one thing we all can do is to keep

educating the public that these continuing travesties are totally unacceptable. The upside-down role of police, paid by the public, acting as if the public is the "enemy" must be reversed for government to be respected in this country. In our local communities especially we can be effective.

This incident sadly is no longer an exception

but the rule. Like the Romans who crucified or impaled people, this is an unwritten message by the powers that be to set an example to the sheeple.

Remember the Oakland shooting, where a suspect was face down on the ground and handcuffed, then shot in the back? Did the other cops do anything except stare in amazement? No.

I've heard the few bad apples argument on cops before, and it doesn't hold water. Any cop who doesn't immediately disarm and arrest his fellow cop for doing things like this is an accomplice, period. All it takes is good men to remain silent for evil to triumph.

It's not about a few bad cops going rogue. It's about a failed justice system that does not and will not police it's own. A system that fails to enforce the laws upon its own servants. Judges and DA's who are immune to prosecution for misconduct and negligence. LE's who beat, taser, and shoot first and ask questions later that are put on paid administrative leave, and at best are mustered out without any criminal charges.

Welcome to the new brave world without habeas corpus, warrantless searches, due process, and legal representation. The only right you have is to be silent at the tender mercies of uniformed brown shirts. Anything you say will be held as interfering with the duties of a LE and resisting arrest.

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin