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New Video suggests Ron Paul's VP running mate!

The Thomas Jefferson of Our Time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkTdOYxfRjY

This is designed to be an outreach video to conservative voters. Please share this with undecided, Republican voters or those in the Tea Party. And let me know what you think of it!

The (unofficial) VP announcement was recorded by Jeffrey Phillips at a breakfast, fund-raising event in California, revealed in this video for the first time!



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Um, this vid should come down now

and this should not occur

"This is designed to be an outreach video to conservative voters. Please share this with undecided, Republican voters or those in the Tea Party."

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Full context

watch first 30 seconds of this video for full context of VP answer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8578LiM4AMw&feature=player_em...

Sep 9, 2011

"New Video suggests Ron Paul's VP running mate!"

LOL

Yeah, this whole sordid deal is a great way to do "Outreach".

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

This would be the best scenario

Ron Paul gets to be president with the Judge as VP. The establishment would be less likely to JFK him because they have the Judge waiting in the wings. Their would be no change in the policies, the Judge wouldn't LBJ on us.

"Give me liberty or give me death" Patrick Henry

For those new to what is going on in this thread and those

already following along:

Dr Paul is a wise man; he understands the importance of wisdom prevailing in the marketplace of ideas.

It is definitely not wisdom prevailing in the marketplace of ideas when manipulation of facts to manipulate opinion is common and accepted as acceptable practice.

Further, those that would and do use manipulation of facts methods to have an edge in the marketplace of ideas-to use deception to win over others to their view-have not attained a minimum level of wisdom to be a driver of opinion. They have not attained that level of wisdom to drive opinion the right way-by simple presentation of facts and compelling argument of facts. Definitely the unwise should not be free to use the edge gained by deception to influence opinion and the wise would never do so nor do they need it when the marketplace of ideas is truly a level playing field.

When the wise have a platform to influence opinion- it is good for all.

When the unwise have a platform to influence opinion- it is
bad for most.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

I really try...

I try really to understand your posts but I still don't know what they are about, are your posts about any specifics? What are you trying to tell in your posts? Let me put it this way, what are you specifically trying to say? I mean, what marketplace of ideas and facts are you talking about? What deception are you talking about?

You are mad and posting "fraud" everywhere because a member posted a video that shows Dr. Paul saying that he might, just MIGHT, consider Judge Napolitano as VP, can you tell me why are you mad because of this video? Was Ron Paul supposed to make you his VP and by that you are missing a chance or something?

Please tell us specifically why you are mad... and please don't post a "blurry" comment and calling it a fact and an argument.

OK, the children were quiet

OK, the children were quiet enough that i could listen to the 'original footage' again.

RP does indeed mention the Judge in response to a question about his VP choice, but he also says he hasn't given it that much thought, and that though he likes the Judge, he is cautious of mentioning names, becauuse it means other names don't get mentioned. IOW, the job is still vacant, and this is NOT an endorsement of the Judge for the VP ticket. The Street article also goes down this road of speculation, and the Paul campaign refused to ccomment on the idea.

For the sake of fairness, i would say this is an over-eager reaction to some unofficial words, and does not warrant rewriting the campaign logo to include the Judge. It is, at this time, speculation, and the original video should have been posted on that basis, not used to make another video.

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I second that

But I don't understand what all the posts about fraud were there for, the Dr. was asked and he did answer that Judge Andrew was one of the options, the good Dr. did not say that the Judge is THE only option...beside that, nothing is official, nothing is official until Dr. Paul says so.

Still don't get what the "fraud" posts were there for.

BINGO

But that is only a small part of this story.

Stand by.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

What story?

Can you please fill me in what the BIG story is?

So spill the beans...

So spill the beans...

forget it

nevermind

"Give me liberty or give me death" Patrick Henry

It seems to me..

It seems to me in the youtube video that Judge Andrew is one of the choices that DR. Paul is thinking about, if you ask me, the Judge is the only person that will secure the Paul correction movement, yes, it's a correction movement and we are all part of it.

What is the Paul "correction movement" please fill me in Remy

This sounds important.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Returning the power to the people by following the constitution

Returning the power to the people by following the constitution.
What did you think that you were doing by following and supporting Dr. Paul ?

Never heard it called the correction movement

Do you think power is returned to the people when people with resources are actively trying to manipulate the opinions of the people through fraudulently manipulating primary sources without being called out when caught?

Is that your view of how a power in the hands of the people society is restored and protected?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

I call it a correction movement

I call it: The Paul Correction Movement

I was talking about Dr. Paul and his ideas about what needs to be done to save the people.

Beside that, what do you have against Judge Napolitano?
What do you have against those that wish for Judge Andrew Napolitano to be Dr. Pauls VP if Dr. Paul got the nominee?

Submitted by highbar on Sun,

Submitted by highbar on Sun, 02/19/2012 - 13:53.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPLJuvZOFjs

I think Dr. Paul makes the VP issue quite clear...maybe that is why Freedom Watch ended, and the Judge said, "Hold Fire!"

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Could be.

.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

►A Pitcher of Warm Spit...

John Nance Garner said the Vice Presidency
isn't worth a pitcher of warm spit.
He also called it a spare tire
on the automobile of Government.
He was FDR's first running mate.

John Adams called it the most insignificant office
man had ever invented.

What does a Vice President do?
If we cut to the chase...
He sits around waiting for the President to die.

Ok...
but in the short term..
what's he THERE for?

He's there to be a candidate.
That's the bottom line.

His 'design life' lasts from
when he's tapped in the summer
until election day.
He's 'useful' for four or five months tops.

Everybody's bored to death with the Presidential nominees
by midsummer,
so,
the 'VP picks' put a jolt into the campaigns.
Suddenly, we've all got something to talk about.
Somebody else to analyze.
How well they balance the tickets.

and THAT'S their function... balance and contrast.
Whatever the presidential nominee isn't,
the VP nominee is, and vice-versa.
Young,Old; racy,dull; northern,southern; dumb,smart; hard,soft; rich,poor.

Then his duties start.
He's got to have campaigning skills,
because he's there to be an attack dog.
He's got to be able to say the 'stuff'
the Presidential Candidate isn't allowed to say himself.
If the Campaign scripts an attack,
it's the VP candidate that gets to deliver it,
while the Presidential candidate stands back looking all statesmanlike.
Then the election happens,
the President assumes the White House
and the VP gets put away in the closet.
His 'usefulness' is over
the first Tuesday in November.

I'm just sayin...
RP can 'delegate' whatever he WANTS to his VP once in office,
but THAT
doesn't change the time tested ROLE of his VP nominee.

The JOB might be a pitcher of warm spit...
but the FUNCTION is the CANDIDACY.

Cheers,
G.

http://www.dailypaul.com/214962/a-pitcher-of-warm-spit

That's all very interesting but what does it have to do with

this attempt by multiple members of the DP to perpetrate a fraud on the DP and beyond? To deceive and manipulate?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

good lord gmason...

this isn't Watergate...
you aren't 'breaking' some diabolic conspiracy.
You are selling your 'opinion'. Fine. You 'may' have a point
but that's all it is.
Good lord....
take a pill.

Interesting you mention "selling" opinions

Sadly, too few people present primary source facts and allow all to form their own opinion.

We have a bumper crop of people "selling" thought. They do not wish to allow free arrival at opinion-lest that opinion may deviate from the opinion they have pre-chosen as what must be the prevailing opinion.

The later activity has much to do w/ where we now find ourselves as a nation.

Sad to see you, at a minimum, think such activity in our own ranks should get a pass goldenequity.

PS-Have you ever "sold" any opinions here?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

yes...

point taken GMason...
You have a history of many good points
on this forum through the years.
I just felt you were freaking out.
Cheers,
G.

Thank You goldenequity

It is not uncommon for people to not get the point I am trying to make at first and often many never get it.

I am the cause of that in all cases-sometimes unintentionally, occasionally not. In the later case it is for a good reason that I look forward to explaining in as near a future as possible.

Cheers to you goldenequity and thanks for getting it.

PS-I +1 you but someone must have down voted you-perhaps they don't like the point.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

gmason

After looking at the comments before, i had considerable doubt over whether this video was legitimate.

However, after highbar gave the link for the youtube video of the unedited version, i'm struggling to see the legitimacy of your complaints. It seems pretty real to me.

However, because you are so persistent on claiming it's false, i'm wondering why you still claim so? Have you seen the unedited video on youtube? Why do you still persist to say it's false?

Much more to come on this entire episode (and beyond??)

champion but for now, please summarize what RP was stating in the original video? What can be gleaned from RP's comments?

Was RP saying to us that the Judge will be his pick?

or

Not?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

I'll word my reply better

Originally i thought you were doubting whether the video was real or not (i.e. that it was smartly edited).

But now i think you have a problem with what the edited version and the post extrapolate from the unedited version: not that Judge Napolitano is but one of many, but that he is Paul's VP pick. And because of this, i think you have a problem with how this deceitfully misleads a lot of people?

If that's the case, i stand with you in your outrage. Even Adam Kokesh is now posting this, and that's not a good thing.

Okayyy, i think i see where you are coming from now

In the unedited version, the person in the audience asked who he was considering as his VP candidate to which Ron Paul replied (paraphrasing): 'I hadn't thought about it much, but realizes i must think about it more, and when once asked, the name Judge Napolitano came right out. But the danger of naming only one or two candidates is that one could leave quite a few (who are qualified) out'.

In other words, Judge Napolitano is one of but many names he would consider as picking for his VP.

However, the video (and the post) makes it out that either (1) Napolitano is Ron Paul's choice or (2) that Napolitano is his most likely choice.

Your problem is that the video (and the post) gears people into thinking that Napolitano will be the VP pick, yes? At first it didn't bother me all that much, but now, like you, i see how problematic and misleading this all is and i also have a problem.

Are there any other issues that you have with this whole deal?