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Why the Super Brochure was made

Hi everyone, I have been saddened by the darkness of the people who are a part of and/or support a certain "group" that is trying to be controlling of this Super Brochure project. I wanted to finally write some things to consider. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

1. Door to door canvassing is great for those who live in the state where voting will take place, but that leaves many of us "out" as we live in "other states"

2. When you get the Super Brochure mailed to your house, it is eye catching, you open it up, and your are moved by truthful information.
When all of us provide the truth to our fellow neighbor, truth wins.

3. There are a variety of issues covered, most or all of them are dear to Americans. The last thing I feel we must not do, is undermine the intellectual ability of Americans, by only giving them one subject to read. When you provide people a series of important issues, that all correlate and are right to the point, encompassing the bulk of what we need to correct in our country - in order to save it, they read it and are forever changed for the better. And they are converted and help us to spread the message onwards.

(In regards to the one topic literature, many of us can't afford to buy all of the pieces, which adds up to roughly 8 times more then the Super Brochure, when handing them out. The Super Brochure was created as a effective "truth" marketing tool that all of us can own and decided where they are mailed to. That is the other beautiful part about this brochure project. We all own its message and its delivery system.)

I want to let you all know something, there is a lot of wrong that is going on with a certain group, and these people have been determined to take down the Super Brochure. You see, they live off of the Ron Paul liberty movement, and they do not want anyone to take money from their group if they can help it. They have spread a hateful message to pull down this Super Brochure. They praised a project as long as they benefited from it monetarily, but when they lose control over being able to own it for themselves, they then spread malicious negativity to "try" and destroy the the very same Super Brochure.

I could go into detail, but I feel that most of us are starting to read into what is really going on with them.

If you knew the whole story, you would be so disappointed in this group.

But, here is one thing that we can all count on. Truth Always Wins. Always. This Super Brochure is filled with import truth, and it changes the lives and the hearts of Americans to uphold to our Constitution. Ron Paul's Liberty message belongs to all of us. We are the owners of our Constitution and of our Liberty. Let us spread our Founding Fathers message far and wide, however we are able.

Here is a quote that comes to mind about us spreading truth, and the people and/or "group" in question, that are trying to block this truth from being spread:

"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
-Winston Churchill

Question and be very wary of the people who are trying to stop you from spreading the truth within this brochure. Those who stop the message of truth from being spread, have an intent that only promotes the continuation of mental slavery in our country, by keeping Americans blinded to what is really going on.

We can now start to see that the ones who are trying to stop us from spreading the truth, are really, the enemy within.

- I am just an another American who cares deeply for our wonderful country and it citizens and our Constitution that can soon to be lost. This is the reason behind the Super Brochure and why it was created.

Let us fight the good fight and ride fast and hold the lantern high for all to see.

Most respectfully,
-Just another Liberty Inspired American.

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Thanks for the explanation

I know about the Super Brochure and its history because I watched the videos at RPP and at www.neverquitnever.com about Erik's Dad that were inspiring.

I understood and empathised with the thinking and the vision that moved Erik to design the Super Brochure and Curt is to be commended for catching the vision and providing the logistics to put it into action. I was very impressed with the sacrifices that were made to make this project a reality.

Because of my own belief in the project I was completely mystified, grieved and overwhelmingly disappointed by the actions of the Revpac when they raised I believe $160,000 to mail the Super Brochure in iowa then reneged on their promises because Curt and Erik wanted to maintain control of the mailings through the system they had set up.

This was due I believe to FEC legal issues dealing with who could actually be responsible for each brochure mailed. Revpac then went ahead and created their own brochure and mailed that one in Iowa duplicating many of the precincts that had already been mailed. It now appears that some or many of these Revpac brochures were not delivered before the election.

To be fair Revpac have since redeemed themselves with a number of very good commercials and other publicity and since we all make mistakes that particular episode could quite easily be forgotten and we could all work together to accomplish the common goal we all have.

It now appears however that many of the inexcusable attacks on the Super Brochure project originated with individuals associated with Revpac for reasons beyond my knowledge or comprehension. The attacks were vicious and uncalled for and in the light of the work done by Erik and Curt to make the project a success they can only be described as inordinately hostile and destructive of the aims and the efforts everyone is making to get Dr. Paul elected.

My prayer is that these attacks will now stop and that everyone will bend their energies to the task at hand, reaching the most people we can with the message of Liberty and opening their minds to the enormous possibilities inherent in a Ron Paul Presidency for a renewed and reinvigorated America.

Finally I would like to address just one of the criticisms made of the Super Brochure: that because they cover so much information individuals who receive them might be turned off by just one item they disagree with and so dismiss Dr. Paul.

Let us be clear, most people do not have any idea of what Ron Paul stands for, except what the controlled media tell them. The Super Brochure gives them a very sympathetic picture and a comprehensive overview that will touch the hearts of those who have been waiting to hear this message in many cases all their lives. THIS IS THE TESTIMONY OF MANY WHO HAVE RECEIVED THE SUPER BROCHURE.

So while there may indeed be those who are looking only for a reason to dismiss Ron Paul, largely because the controlled media have already convinced them to do so, they in all likelihood would have always dismissed him. They cannot be reached for the moment.

The people we are aiming for right now, our HIDDEN TARGET MARKET if you will, are THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY LOOKING FOR RON PAUL BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW HE EXISTS OR WHAT HE STANDS FOR. The Super Brochure opens their eyes immediately because he resonates with who they are and they become excited to find that THEY ARE NOT ALONE.

I hope this helps to clarify the very essence of the Super Brochure and why it is so important that we support it.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

The problem is discernment

I usually claim to be 100% anti-super brochure, but I'll admit that it has it's place...but I beg of you not to pretend that it has anything to do with "canvassing." It is the opposite of canvassing. It's basically a brochure for people like us. And that's great for 'all of us.' But bad for a traditional Republican primary.

Use it if you pre-identify that someone is on board with at least 4+ of the issues addressed on the brochure, but always remember, first ask, "What is the most important issue to you in the upcoming election?"

If they just mention one issue - and it can be addressed with the official campaign's material, use just the material that addresses that issue. Otherwise, in my opinion, you are not helping the here-and-now campaign.

*The better Ron Paul does in the here-and-now campaign, the bigger platform his ideas will have on the national stage.

Check out http://iroots.org/
"If you’re into political activism, at least for Ron Paul if not for anyone else, I strongly recommend spending some time with iroots.org." - Tom Woods

And that is the whole point Aaron

It is indeed for people like us who do not know yet that Ron Paul exists or what he stands for.

They may have heard his name but have no idea what he is about. Yet he is their candidate and they are looking for him did they but know it. This is our hidden target market. The key word there is HIDDEN. The Super Brochure is designed to reach them.

You are labouring under a misapprehension that you know all there is to know about reaching people for Ron Paul. Here's a newsflash, you don't. By all means do it your way and good luck to you. Just don't try to force others to do it your way. I thought that was the whole point of the Liberty movement and maybe why you need to learn a little more about it.

Don't you think Aaron it is time for the folks at REVPAC to eat a little humble pie, in fact a nice big slice of it?

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Does being 100% anti-superbrochure

Have anything to do with being on the REV PAC Payroll?

FEC Expense report for RevPAC:
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00499335/76455...

Of note, this item:

Iroots.org
4152 W Heritage Way
Bloomington, Indiana 47403
12/19/2011

Paid $2566.00 for "Iowa Broadcast & Footage"

This is you, is it not?

Aaron Jones, founder

Why is a REV PAC blogger being paid to attack the Super Brochure?

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

That is the $64 trillion question of the decade.

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"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

There is more to the story of why

REVPAC used the original SuperBrochure to raise so much money, then reneged on their promise and devised their own. It had nothing to do with legal issues, I assure you.

The story, if it were told, would blow your mind. Unfortunately, the Super Brochure guys are reluctant to be so explicit. Telling such a bad story just makes the teller look bad. But read between the lines in the OP's testimony, and you get the idea. We know who the 'group' is that he is referring to.

But when you tell a story that ugly, it is an unfortunate truth that the one telling the story ends up looking dirty and bad. And a story that outrageous, when told, immediately invites accusations of lies.

But in time, the full truth will come out. As more and more people deal with said group, and get screwed over by them, the truth will emerge.

It has really been one of the greatest tragedies of this movement in this cycle.

- sigh -

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

The video for liberty is the best recruiting tool

It's only 4x as expensive but 800x more effective.

Not knocking the super brochure - which I like - but ive taken a few political training classes and I know there is some down side. But its not as bad as everyone is making it out to be but definitely doing more good than bad. I just wish the DVD project took off as well as the super brochure project did.

keep up the great work Curt and Erik!

I can still picture Erik pushing that heavy cart with many boxes into the post office (saw it in one of the videos)

When I die, if there is such a thing as reincarnation....

I want to come back as a Ron Paul Super Brochure!

What a wonderful operation you all have set up! The Super Brochure project gave me outlets to vent my frustration over recent months. Whenever a distorted news story would be aired I'd blow off steam and buy a precinct!

Election nights were even better. Scratch your head results...what's left to do? BUY MORE SUPER BROCHURES!

SBs kept me in the game and focused when it could have been easier to whine, bitch and moan.

Thanks to everyone who makes the Super Brochure project a reality for the rest of us!

"Criticizing Ron Paul for not passing bills in Congress is like criticizing a nun in a whore house for not turning tricks. He was there to stop the "whoring," not become one!" ~ Blake Buffington

Okay Class, ENOUGH!

As there is no one sure fire way to do anything in the world, I WELCOME multiple paths that individual and group of R3VOL are actively pursuing with varying degrees of success.

ALL these projects are funded by the R3VOL. So just like in the FreeMarket, VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS.

Support projects that you want them to succeed with.

That, will solve all the problems.

When y'all are discussing various gripes you have with either SuperBrochures, OR the RevPAC, ask yourselves, is your goal to bitch, or to sincerely help them improve, or simply want them to fail?

NO matter how much you disagree, there's no doubt both sides have been successful in their own ways, so why the HELL would you want to destroy a fledgling operation that in the end, all share the same goal of getting Dr. Paul elected POTUS, then a restoration of the Republic, on to a hopefully more voluntaryst path, for those who want to pursue it?

Now unless your goal is to make either of those projects, succeed or improve, if you have so much problem with it, simply DON'T FUND it!

Now, can we go back to restoring our Freedoms, by TAKING it away from the Statist murderers?

Good.

Thank you.

Now, I'd like to wish BOTH endeavors a good luck, and may the most effective project win. Let the games begin.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Well said!

Competition is almost always healthy, even in team sports, which this movement is.

I often ponder/daydream about the vast differences between all of Ron's supporters. I wonder how we've even come this far. It all goes back to what our Constitution says and RP tries to reiterate daily, "liberty brings people together".

Americans have so much more in common than we do in difference. We live in such a polarized country now that those smaller differences are always magnified and seem bigger than they are. We would do well to remember and cherish our common bonds.

Any attempt we make, so long as they are legal and respectful, will be well received by some and not others; this is the game of marketing. SB guys: keep on keepin on!

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing". - Sir Edmund Burke

I say spend your money the way you want

It's not like Ron Paul is winning every state without it. I would rather someone get the brochure than only see Ron Paul through Fox News's eyes.

older people

seem to like the SB... from what I have heard.

Wow

I want to let you all know something, there is a lot of wrong that is going on with a certain group, and these people have been determined to take down the Super Brochure. You see, they live off of the Ron Paul liberty movement, and they do not want anyone to take money from their group if they can help it.

You're just being ignorant and offensive.

I have no money to make from Ron Paul, I give all of my spending money to him (through the campaign). I'm not a fan of the Super Brochure.

It's a great thing to have if you're going door to door. You can talk to people and reference it. I don't deny that. But when you're not maxed out on you $2,500 and the campaign says they lose voters when it gets mailed out, there's a real chance that it's not helping when you spend your money on the project. You could be sending that money to the campaign so they can do more speaking events and do more TV ads. You could send that money to the SuperPACs who also do TV ads. Both of these things are proven to help.

It's fine to think that the Super Brochure is helpful. Maybe it is. But stop being conspiracy theorists and stop calling us greedy or claiming we have ulterior motives for asking "what if it isn't?"

Here's the problem I see ....

I went over to the RPF and had a look at the most recent thread I could find on this matter. Simply astonishing .....

It isn't so much a problem of "asking what if it isn't ?" .... but a lot of derogatory (bordering on libel) and negative assertions (as fact, but which apparently are largely only opinion) about the idea and the individual that had the personal initiative to come up with and execute the idea ....

Quite frankly, I found a lot of what was being said by the detractors to be simply ludicrous .... and filled with all manner of logical fallacies .... (correlation is not causation, etc)

If you or anyone else wants to make a case (which many of the negatory posters on RPF didn't) then make one - preferably with verifiable data (ie. facts) and not just opinion and logical fallacies ....

I am maxed out, I have supported RevPAC, and I have supported the SuperBrochure ...... and will continue to do so .....

The campaign legally can't

The campaign legally can't say outright that the Super Brochure is bad and that people should stop sending them.

Which is why any proof can't be posted because it would violate laws and put Dr. Paul at risk.

You all downvote me over this and you downvote over many things.

Think what you will, call me a detractor, assume I'm some plant to hurt the movement. I don't care.

I've been campaigning for Ron Paul since 2007 and I will continue to do everything I can.

Thank you. The SB is by far one of the best brochures

I have ever handed out. It is high quality from corner to corner both front and back. Thank you for stepping and making it available for the cause of liberty. I would be nowhere s effective as I am without it.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

Listen to the campaign

I would understand if the naysayers were isolated randos, but the fact is that the campaign has said explicitly that the SB is hurting their efforts and is _losing votes_. They asked us to burn it when we were in Iowa because it doesn't work as well as the campaign – it actually works against it. So I don't understand why everyone is so defensive about this piece of literature – just listen to the campaign if you actually want to get Ron elected. If everyone contributed the money to the campaign that they earmark for spending on the SB, Ron would not be begging for an additional 500K by Monday on his money bomb. I don't know why people don't understand this perspective.

Why is this downvoted?

If you want Paul elected, max out to the campaign, then give all you can to other causes.

Not maxing out to the campaign could cause your money to be spent in places that won't end up netting any delegates.

Like the massive amount of money wasted in Florida on the Super Brochures and by Endorse Liberty. It's not difficult to understand...if the money can be distributed by the campaign, it is better than us making up where it needs to go.

if you want Paul elected, make your own decisions...

it is wrong to say to donate everything to the campaign as that is the key way to spread liberty.

jj

Getting Paul elected is the best way to spread Liberty

And giving to the campaign is the best way to get him elected. They know the best way to spend the money. They are paying people to figure out how to distribute the money in a way to get the most delegates. I like the super brochure, and if I can max to the campaign i'll be donating to it.

Listen to yourself only...

What a sick comment - essentially asking for people to stop thinking for themselves and only do what some group says. If you believe the superbrochure works, then go for it. If not, then don't do it on your own accord.

Clearly, those against the huge success of the superbrochure and grassroots are spreading rumors and their ill activities are working.

The vast majority of true liberty supporters agree the superbrochure is a hit.

jj

Seriously ......

..... burn it ? (Oh, the drama !)

I assume the "they" you refer to is composed of specific individuals, and these folks actually have names .....

Care to share who these individuals were specifically ?

Troll Alert

Beware

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

There's just no way that happened.

For one thing, RP would never discourage grass roots action....after all that's how he got where he is. For another, the campaign would never jeopardize itself by officially having contact with a grass roots project such as this. Too many legal problems.

Are you a lawyer that knows what legal problems...

would occur or would not occur or could be circumvented?

jj

Can you back this statement up?

Where can we get more information specifically from the official national campaign that outlines how this hurts them?

Are you seriously saying that someone Iowa asked you to burn these? What was their connection to the official campaign?

Don't get mad or defensive. I just find that an incredible statement and want to know more. If this was the position of the official national campaign towards SBs, then that might go a long way towards settling the arguing back and forth over the SB project.

Every time proof is posted it

Every time proof is posted it gets deleted by mods.

Re: Every time proof is posted it

I just did a quick search on the DP and this came up:

http://www.dailypaul.com/201934/ok-this-is-ridiculous

Michael Nystrom's Response
Owner - The Daily Paul

Second - many of the threads that I have unpublished are reposting a leaked internal campaign email that was making the rounds a few weeks ago. When the campaign itself got wind that the email had been leaked, it asked that copies of said email be removed from both the Daily Paul and the Ron Paul forums.

I complied, and continue to comply with that request.

Regarding the content of the email -- it was directed towards official campaign volunteers, and instructed that official campaign volunteers not use or pass out Super Brochures. This was to avoid going wrong with FEC regulations regarding coordination between the campaign and organized grassroots efforts. The campaign is not allowed to use them. The reason the email was sent was because campaign volunteers liked the brochure so much they were distributing them.

The other point the email made was "the super brochure is losing votes." This referred to a single picture of flag-draped soldiers coffins that was in a small run of an early version of the brochure. Some veterans groups complained that such an image was inappropriate. The Super Brochure guys took that feedback and immediately replaced the picture with a happy reunion of a soldier with his family.

"I hate government as much as government hates freedom, and that's a lot." - Mike Malin

Check out my PowerPoint: http://www.slideshare.net/anarcholibertarian/why-do-they-hat...

And my Ron Paul vs. Lincoln video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi

Unnamed Mods covertly delete it 100% of the time???

The Super Brochure project is advertised on the DP. I'm not talking about an occasional random ad like a Santorum ad. It is always advertised here.

The Daily Paul Logo has a SB picture embedded in it.

That is actual evidence that anyone can see for themselves that I would think that the DP in favor of this project.

I have no stake in the SB project either way. However, since I hand out SBs when I canvass and when I meet folks, I really want to know.

If you have evidence, but the "MODS will delete it", then email it to me via my contact form. I'm sure I'm asking for it and I'll get a bunch of hate mail as well. Oh well.