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MSNBC's Howard Fineman does not know if the Iraq War was a mistake.

Howard Fineman, TV Commentator for MSNBC does not know if the Iraq War was a mistake and claims he never offered an opinion on the subject. In 10 years of doing Hardball, Chris Matthews was not able to convince him. All I needed was 10 minutes but he would not talk about it. Instead, he wanted to get revenge for having been exposed.

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Before You Know It, Jan's Interviewees All Say The Same Thing

"That's all the time I have."

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Ha!

What a sneaky guy! He is totally opinionated but refuses to admit it.

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. -Galileo Galilei

Loved the taxation question

Jan is so great at phrasing his questions, almost like talking to a child trying to make the child think.
For example, when he asked if governmenet should protect from people who steal money, anybody with a little brain would know where Jan was heading with that.

Get Bigger Jan!

Find 100 people, train them to do what you do. And get out there and do more of this. Your level of discourse will wake up America.

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Jan Helfeld has no equal. Imagine his moderating a debate?

Exposing hypocrisy is the way to the truth, and this man knows how to expose hypocrisy.

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Thank you for your support and praise.

Thank you for your support and praise. Your comments and others nourish my soul and give me strength to continue fighting for freedom.

Jan Helfeld

Incredible

That was an incredible interview. Jan you are real journalist in the true sense of the word.

I am always amazed how professional, steadfast, and persistent you are. I personally could of not have kept a straight face. lol

That was absolutely priceless. Great work.

Cheers,

donvino

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Thank you for your support and praise.

Thank you for your support and praise. Your comments and others nourish my soul and give me strength to continue fighting for freedom.

Jan Helfeld

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uh-oh, Jan...

you just made howard's list!

I am proud of you. Great, powerful questions that strikes the heart of these draconian bubbleheads.

They are all mad because your questions make them realize, as in this pompous, condescending Fineman's case, that he has just wasted thirty years of his life because his legacy will be remembered as that of a traitor to his country.

Considering, of course, that he is an American and not a citizen of another nation who is masquerading as an American.

Be careful, Jan. We fully intend to crash their puffed up worlds but they will be very vindictive in their redress.

The good news: Fineman and his like-minded ilk are irrelevent and will have ZERO impact on the future of this country.

But you, Jan Helfeld, are having a MAJOR impact on the future of this country and I, for one, applaud you!

Ron Paul
2012
because you can't hide from your truths...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Wrong

Fineman is exactly what is wrong with this country today!!!! Using our blood and treasure to elimate Isreals enemies. Anyone with a half of brain knows this. Next target is Syeria then Iran. What fools we are to allow this treason. Tell him to stick the card up his ass.

dave anderson

thanks Jan!!

We love ya!

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

And he throws them off with

And he throws them off with the intro calling them the best commentators in the game lol. I love this guy man!

juan maldonado

I am noticing a Trend here

Let me first go on the record and state that off all the hours of media I have consumed on every network (Thousands) of watching these supposed commentators and anchors that Jan Helfeld and not someone like Matthew's should truly have a show called "Hardball" because the rest just spout their pre-determined handed down agenda and talking points.
Jan can enter into a true interview and expose these puppets for what they truly are and this is the key. We all know that the left and the right are the same with different color flags. In these interviews Jan deconstructs the entire political premise of "Being for the people" and removes the shroud or mask to what we already know.."They are all the same team".
Take notice of the past 3 interviews I watched....They all become self conscious and aware they are being recorded and begin to look into the camera and cut the interview short. Jan does not play ball and frankly he has the best understanding of what we all know made this nation great "freedom and limited government" and poses the question in a very simplistic way.
If the man across the street cannot legally enter your home and via force take what belongs to you PRIVATE PROPERTY what differentiates a group of people with wealth and purchased influence from using their resources to come together and hijack government to take from you to provide for another???
Fineman answered exactly with what we expected "That is our democratic process". Wrong...this was founded as a republic solely for the reason of preventing expansive government to attain the capability to become a democracy and allow the majority to dictate rule upon the minority regardless of how small that minority is...
Which is why we now revert to the "Veil of Ignorance"...if you enshrine the rights of the smallest minority be them one person or the sect of 100 or even 1 million we level the playing field and that is the purpose of the constitution. It enshrined natural rights.
The ruins of govt and tyranny are littered with good intentions which may not be what they seem or were portrayed.
Bravo Jan. These are the best interviews I have EVER seen on the MSM or Youtube.

Well said John!

Well said John!

great job!

I appreciate the way he interviews. It seems so peaceful and gets right to the issue exposing the controlled media. The Chris Mathews one was great too.

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A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a 'Yes' merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble.
-Mahatma Gandhi

great job!

I appreciate the way he interviews. It seems so peaceful and gets right to the issue exposing the controlled media. The Chris Mathews one was great too.

oops computer error, could only edit not delete extra comment

A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a 'Yes' merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble.
-Mahatma Gandhi

great job!

I appreciate the way he interviews. It seems so peaceful and gets right to the issue exposing the controlled media. The Chris Mathews one was great too.

A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a 'Yes' merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble.
-Mahatma Gandhi

Jan & Ben

Swann, both are doing a great job with all the other BS spin out there - thank you Jan, I look forward to hearing more..

Working to free the hemp seed - Thanks to Congressman Paul's efforts HR 1831. Peace

Welcome Jan

We admire and appreciate your great work, and are pleased to have you among us.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

I Think Howard Fineman is Intellectually Honest

Yes, he does not march in foot steps with RP followers. But where were 70% of the adult RP followers 7 years ago? Or their parents? Marching under different followers (O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush) or different ideas....
Majority of people are "followers" by nature. Most of them have hard time to appreciate different opinions of others - that requires intellectual independence and ability to consider issues from different angles (economic, social, psychological.)
Jan does not cut it.

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oh, he cuts it alright...

he cuts the heart right out of these warmongers

fineman coming to Dr. Paul's team?
sure, it will happen...if he (fineman) looks at the true facts and not the regurgitated double speak of his masters...

excuse me if I don't hold my breath!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You are basically saying Ron Paul is not Intellectually honest

Howard Fineman sounded like a politician trying to dodge a question. Maybe the future will tell us it was okay to kill hundreds of thousands of Iraquis and spend billions of dollars doing it. That's rubbish. Maybe in the future we will find that Hitler killing 6 million Jews was justified. Just because someone does not have the backbone to say when something is wrong, does not mean they are intellectually honest. It means they are morally dead.

Looks like

you need to keep your brain more focused. Re-read your response and think - Are you saying that sending US troops to a foreign country to save innocent from slaughter by a local dictator is justified? Then you are going against RP foreign policy. You mixed several things in your post so I cannot address them.

Where in my post

did I say it was justified to send troops to a foreign country. I was commenting on the idea that we need more information to say whether certain things are right or wrong. IF a democratic government is set up in Iraq, it will still not justify what our country did there.

If you suspect...

Even if you suspect that your neighbor is beating his wife, that's STILL no excuse to go busting down his door and assaulting him. The same should apply to any other sovereign country. It's the job of the subjects to throw off their own chains, just as we (well, with a little help from France, but at least we asked them to help) did in 1776.

Freedom is my Worship Word!

Your "should" is

irrelevant to the discussion. You are not a central planner. And you do not have to repeat RP's stance - we all know.

Elaborate on

"Maybe in the future we will find that Hitler killing 6 million Jews was justified. Just because someone does not have the backbone to say when something is wrong, does not mean they are intellectually honest."

The point

I was trying to make was that Hitler was wrong in what he did and there will never be any justification for it. The same is true for the war in Iraq. Fineman is saying if something good happens in Iraq in the future it will have justified what we did, that the ends justify the means.
He is also saying that if people use the democratic process to pass unjust laws, that it is perfectly okay. So in spite of saying he is objective and just reports the facts, he does have his own opinion on what is right and wrong(as we all do). His worldview does affect how he reports and what he reports, but he is not honest enough to admit it.

You miss one point here

1) Assume Hitler just kills Jews and Gypsies and does not attack other countries. Based on RP policy we wont interfere. Without UN, there wont be even condemnation and no restriction in trade. People who did not care about Jews, shrug off.
2) Now, lets use inversion. We attacked Iraq without any legitimate reason and killed bunch of people. Other countries did not stop us and UN did not condemn. People who did not care about Iraqis, shrug off.
3) I just do not understand obsession with Iraq. Are any our other wars since liberation (accept WW2) were more justified than Iraq? I will tell you more, if economy were great and war with Iraq brought oil prices to $1/gal, most Americans would be 100% behind the war. To single out Fineman as somehow evil is like for young Americans to overlook their parents who supported the war (and many still support.)

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i understood EXACTLY...

what you were saying, bristowsnow

most reasonable people did

i guess the guy that asked you to explain yourself is still waking up...thats ok, give him a little nudge, he'll get there (if he wants to)

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

No need to gang up

learn to stand on your own feet.

Sorry

I was not able to stay up all night answering you. I do have to get up at 5 to go to work. I would just like to get one thing clarified. Do you disagree with Ron Paul's stance on foreign policy? If so, what is your stance.

If you think Fineman is intellectually honest you are naive

Fineman is the enemy just like his zionist banker buddies that give him his orders.

There are people that have not awaken to the truth yet and there are people that are aware and trying thier best to keep the others asleep. I hope someday you will learn the difference

Do Zionists

give orders to people who are voting for Santorum? Did Zionists fund McCain and Sarah Palin?

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NO...those people, like you, are still asleep...

its ok, we'll be here when you shake off those chains and you won't be alone

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

your kidding

Zionist give orders to thier lackeys (Fineman is a great example) and they brain wash the people that are voting for Santorum by constantly fear mongering about Iran. Did zionist fund McCain and Palin? uhhh, YES! Do zionist fund Romney? uhhh, YES (Goldman Sachs)! Does a zionist fund Gingrich? uhhh,YES (Adelson)! Get a clue

If Zionists

funded McCain & Palin, then Zionists are too weak (cannot put their people in power) or waste money (if they knew Obama will be nominated.) How can such weak and wasteful people rule the world? But based on your enlightened comments I can agree that Zionists control lithium, you know...

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they are ALL on the same team, brother...

so, you see, they do WIN EVERY TIME!

until, this time...you will be a great voice for Dr. Paul...keep moving forward, you are close

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Liberty_First, I see you have only been a member for

11 weeks and maybe you are still learning about the Liberty movement. If that is indeed the case I apologize for my harsh tone and hope you do continue to learn the truth about who really pulls the string in this country. If on the other hand, you are just a lying troll, you can go fck yourself.

Your harsh tone?

Your harsh tone? No, it is your mother's tongue. You should not be ashamed of it. It runs in the family.

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someone who is deeply "asleep" needs a harsh tone...

or else they just roll over and slumber

its easy to sleep, much harder to face the "harsh" reality of fascism, socialism, and communism

i mean, if you call it that then why don't you address the causes?

we can't claim communism is coming and then deny "how" it got here now, can we?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Nonsense


I knew that the Iraq War was bullsh*t before it was ever started. Any objective reporter worth their weight in salt would know that if you needed cherry-pick exaggerations from a bribed CIA-hack named Curveball in order to be convincing, then the whole case for War was a fraud.

But futhermore, no WMD was ever found by the U.N. Inspectors when they were sent in. And after the War -- still no WMD.

Meanwhile, millions of innocent people died totally unnecessarily.

And finally, even if Iraq did have WMDs (which they never did). Cuba had live and launchable Nuclear Weapons just 90-miles off our coastline in 1962. John Kennedy understood the the certainty of War would cause more peril and death, then trying to pursue peaceful negotiations. Kennedy chose not to go to War under far more serious and threatening conditions, and reached an agreement by pulling U.S. Nuclear weapons out of Turkey in exchange for the Nuclear Weapons being pulled out of Cuba.

That decision and that outcome is widely recognized as the greatest triumph of the Kennedy Administration (and responsible for us all still being alive today).

So even if all the Bush-Cheney lies had been truths, it still would have been the wrong decision to create massive bloodshed, tragedy, and chaos where none had been first started by Iraq.

That is a War Crime.

Fineman is not being intellectually honest on all accounts here.

It is your personal opinion

that you like to push through others' throats like the only truth that exists (like it is done under Sharia Law.)
Consider this - today's military is not a draft. EVERY soldier knew that there is no danger to USA militarily and most joined in as an exchange of becoming a killer-for-hire for free education, travel and other perks. I am not in a position to point a finger and b[i]tch about our soldiers and trade union policemen. They used their personal liberty. Somehow you want to shame others to accept your viewpoint.

No: It is FACT


It is FACT that Iraq had no WMD.
It is FACT that the Bush administration was lying.
It is FACT that that Invading Iraq was a War Crime.
It is FACT that that millions of innocent people were slaughtered.
It is FACT that there was no justification whatsoever for the Iraq War.

These are technical FACTS, not "personal opinion".

And trying to equate the defense of peace with "Sharia Law" proves that you are intellectually dishonest.

Neocon go Home!!

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WOW!

we are on the same page...

why the bashing of jan above?

i don't get it...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Consider this:

War is a racket. It always has been.

Scott,

I totally agree. My original comment was not about value judgment on wars, but allow individual liberty and freedom of opinion to our philosophical opponents without name calling and verbal abuse.
Many RP supporters are just a freshly converted bunch of intolerant nobodies who want to think of themselves as "rebels", "revolutionaries", "Jeffersonians", people possessing the truth. Tolerance is pre-requisite to free society.

I think

the reason most people were upset with your original comment was because you said Jan didn't cut it. Where in the interview was Jan name calling or verbally abusive. You said Fineman has the right to express his views, which is true, but when people make a value judgement about what he is saying, you act like it is unexceptable. Also, why all the name calling in the above comment.

Good! I had an exchange with Bloomberg this morning...

I had an email exchange with a Bloomberg reporter this morning, in which I questioned why he left Paul's tax position out of the article and only included the other three.

He responded with a link to the article on the website, but on the mobile download (how I get my headlines) it was not the same article. Not only did the mobile leave out Paul but also left out the "hotel exemption" from taxes on the online version.

I pointed out that the mobile and online versions might as well be two different articles. Besides, the online version only has one line about Paul's corporate tax policy. Stating that Paul's is 15% corporate tax.

This was in response to my sending him a link to the campaign's site on his tax position. I let him know I am not an outspoken Paul supporter, but leaning his way and that when his supporters point media bias its articles like his that raise and eyebrow and seemingly true.

Only that is superseded which is conserved; all conserving is superseding; And it is the daughter ideas that carry their mothers in their wombs.

This is the point of departure for those that think, who have made a life founded on virtue and excellence.

Bwahahaha!

Hey Jan,

Luv ya man...great stuff. I've often thought that you should be crafting comebacks for article comment section posters. Love the methodology...

But Jan...he wanted that card for a purpose...as you are now on the alert list again...no more NBC commentators coming your way after the memo...time to change the name of your show and grow facial hair again...;-)

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?