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My (NeoCon) Parents Just Donated to the Ron Paul Campaign

Maybe the RP message is hitting a tipping point, maybe it was the many months of discussing, debating, and convincing my parents that Ron Paul is the only sane candidate running for president. I'm not sure what the exact reason, but today my dad told me he donated to the Ron Paul campaign.

I was shocked, happy, and in somewhat disbelief when he told me that. Why? My parents are practicing Jews, are avid fox news watchers, strong Israel supporters, and attend many lectures about the Iran/Israel situation. If people like my parents can accept and embrace Ron Paul, there is lots of hope for other NeoCons out there who have way less allegiance to Israel. Do not give up hope on NeoCons. Talk to them, explain to them RP's foreign policy, be kind, LISTEN to what they have to say, and address their concerns. Some won't listen, but some will! Focus on the people that will listen, and good things will come

My parents are still not completely sold on RP's foreign policy, but they recognize that he's the only one who can turn this nation around. I think we are on the verge of something great here in 2012. Do not lose hope!

Remember:

"You can attract more bees with honey than vinegar"

-A die hard RP suppoerter



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My parents were huge neocons,

My parents were huge neocons, but I've made some progress. Here is how it usually works:

On money bomb days I go over to my parents house, and tell them there is a money bomb for ron paul and ask if they are going to donate. They ask if I am and I say yup $100, then my mom agree's to usually around half, the she hands me the credit card and I go on line and make there donation for them.

Congrats!

Have had similar success, not only in my family but, also in my community. I've found the subtle approach works the best. Also, our God-given Constitutional rights are huge with Evangelicals.

God bless and continued success.

Thanks JMB987 I wince, hard, when I read all too common

comments that "Neo-Con"/Fox watchers/"Old People" can't or won't get it, are "Israel Firsters", are selfish SS leaches, etc.

Yes, they will never get it if you give up without ever trying. And they will never get it if you size them up in advance of being incapable of getting it and make your pitch w/ that conviction.

No one can get anything until they get a clear presentation of that thing in a way that respects them as a human being; no different than the presenter would demand for themselves.
Other peeps are peeps-currently having a view toward RP that is unfavorable does not make them sub-human objects that can be treated w/ disrespect. I strongly suspect many actually relish the opportunity to vent their frustration on people they see as the cause of our current condition.

It is a rare human that adopts a message, even when it is in their enlightened self-interest, when it is presented to them as an all or nothing package that only a complete moron would fail to accept instantly on any exposure.

"Damn, hundreds of us screamed END THE FED at them for a full hour; stupid Neo-Cons just can't get it!"

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

What makes you think Limbaugh has a conscience?

Money is all that matters to him. That, and winning the respect of country club Republicans like the lawyers in his family. And money is the way to win their respect.

(Sorry. This was meant to be a reply to a posting below asking how Limbaugh could live with his conscience.)

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Similar story

I've been amazed to find my mom's ex, who is a 55+ die-hard conservative listener of the likes of Rush and Levin, starting to warm up to Ron Paul. I don't think he's given the campaign any money (he doesn't have much to give), but we've been exchanging emails about Ron Paul. Last night he said he doesn't favor his isolationist foreign policy, which was fun to untangle for him.

By claiming there is no conspiracy, you prove to those who believe in the conspiracy that you are part of the conspiracy.

Great

Btw, I just saw a BBC news clip that el kayduh is in Syria attacking Assad's troops from Iraq????

donvino

well

im sure Leon Bronstein would be unhappy. and that's good.
may your parents stay the course as Americans first.

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My dad

is voting for Ron Paul. He's a 96 yr. old Purple Heart Veteran of World War II. He hates wars. Wants or troops to come home. Says we are losing our liberties. And, thinks this country is headed for another major depression like the one he lived through.

It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

Some Links...

From Israel: Vote Ron Paul and Let My People Go!
http://settlersofsamaria.org/vote-ron-paul-free-israel/

Ron Paul Should be the Zionist Choice for US President
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/7552

Ron Paul to Obama: Stop Dictating to Israel
http://www.newsmax.com/DougWead/ronpaul-barack-obama-middlee...

Israel and the Right
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2011/05/25/israe...

Every link related to Israel

Every link related to Israel and Ron Paul:

http://www.americansforisrael.com/

Most of the people

I talk to really don't care about foreign policy that much one way or the other. They're all pro-Israel, but convincing them that Dr. Paul's foreign policy is better for Israel than the others' isn't that hard. I run into the usual talk-radio zombie who believes everything that comes out of Rush's mouth, but as a general rule, the Conservatives I live around are very open to Paul. A lot of them are just on the fence though. I guess just waiting until the night before the election to decide if they want to vote for Dr. Paul, Gingrich, or Santorum. It takes patience, but it's extremely frustrating.

they need to see a win...

...like Washington State March 3rd

Wonderful! If only...

there was a cure for my die hard Dem parents! When I told my dad I was supporting no one but Paul, he laughed and said, "good!" He thinks it gives Obama a better chance. :-(

Luckily my mom and brother aren't citizens, lol!

NEO CON...PARENTS.

Honey is better,But vinegar laced with truth,after an ear has listened ,leaves a after taste that that can't be dismissed.

LIVE FREE OR DIE ...GOT BULLETS?

Come to your parents with this perspective JMB:

Eventually, every country in the Middle East will have a nuclear weapon. It's not a matter of if, but when. No matter how many wars we start, simple logic says it will happen.

The wise path is to react and plan to that reality now, and not to wait ten years until it's staring us in the face.

Even as we drum up support against Iran, Iraq is already rebuilding, eliminating Sunni opposition and looks to be another Iran within ten years. Then what?

Invade Iraq again? What if they have a nuke already by then?

And what have we unleashed in Libya? A military government committing mass genocide, torture and murder on its own civilian population?

Now is the time to quit reacting, and start a proactive approach.

Thank you for sharing with us, it never hurts to get a new perspective.

I'd love more info on this.

What would a more proactive approach entail? Links would be great if you don't have time for a lengthy explanation.

no real links, it is actually my idea

I post this regularly on MSNBC in the many Syria/Iran threads, arguing against war for this very reason.

With some success, I have changed some minds.

The proactive approach would be to talk and trade.

The proactive approach would also be to "ratchet down". Right now western governments are "ratcheting up".

Trade is how we opened up China, and talk is how we opened up the Soviet Union.

We did not beat them with war. Historically, America has a very poor record with wars of aggression.

Every time we attack another Middle Eastern country, what message are we sending to the other countries in the region? Better get a nuke.

Israel has stopped talking to every country in the region. Its diplomacy is almost nonexistent. Israel also should talk and trade, and realize that settling the Palestinian issue is in its own best interest as a nation moving forward.

The best way for Israel to do this is to decide what they want for peace, and then go achieve it. And that's it. Blaming the Palestinians is what they've done for the past 40 years. Blaming is reactive, it means you are not in charge, not in the driver's seat so to speak. It's easy to do. Ariel Sharon started doing just that. His death was a tragedy of timing for Israel. I hope they jettison Netanyahu soon, and Israel can find a true statesman to complete Sharon's vision.

Lastly, the U.S. has to fully remove itself from the peace "process" between the Israelis & Palestinians. Those two groups really need to reconcile with each other, the U.S. has nothing to do with it, and shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Thanks

It makes sense to me, but for those who are scared of Iran and nukes, they just can't seem to think outside the box.

10k away

10k from 2 mil!!!!!!!!!

Heard Rush say today

that by not endorsing anyone in the primary he thought he would be better positioned to "fully support, 100 percent, the eventual nominee, regardless who it is," or words to that effect. I waited for him to say, "except Ron Paul of course." He has gone on anti-Ron-Paul rants repeatedly although more recently seems to be taking the tactic of trying to ignore him out of existence, constantly referring to "the three candidates, Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich," with nary a mention of Paul.

Mostly I support Ron's campaign for positive reasons but I must admit I'd like to see Rush's head explode when Ron Paul is nominated.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

When I hear

that logic I die a little more inside.

How can people quash their consciences like that?

Maybe they never really look at themselves in the mirror.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

That would be an AWESOME

That would be an AWESOME sight...

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The title made me smile. Once

The title made me smile. Once they find Ron they will start paying more attention and MAN we need new donators. This is wonderful!
I hope your Dad has lots of friends and is not embarrassed to talk politics..LOL. This made me happy.

JMB987, Its the spirit of

JMB987, Its the spirit of truth. Its good see people are starting to see. Vote For Saint Paul 2012

Give a super big thanks to your parents from N. California

I use to be a NEOCon

There's hope for all of them ... 80% of the country is anti war... so they have limited appeal - they will continue to lose elections if they don't get behind Paul and like candidates... - People are sick of the TSA and Federal government. Their time is up soon and Freedom will be restored!

"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized. "

Great job!

I'm working on my parents. My mom is going to vote for him, but she is still not on agreement with everything. My dad doesn't really support anybody right now. But I will convince them. :)

My brother also supports him, though he still watches FAUX News and stuff like that...

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

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Right on!

I am working on my parents, too.

They are intrigued that I am intrigued (about Dr. Paul) and so they are listening.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Could you try to find out....

what the reason was that got your parents to donate to Ron Paul? Were they able to detect the terrible bias in the media, especially on FOX?

Minnesota Mary

This is .....

..... a very good question ..... I hope the OP replies ....