Too Timid In New Hampshire Debate

We do know that when communicating with others, they are motived by emotion and they react to avoid pain or gain pleasure. It has occurred to me (and may have occurred to you) while listening to our favorite hero (Ron Paul), that some of his ideas just might benefit from more emotional Metaphors, Analogies and/or Similes.

My goal here is to create an environment where our collective emotional intellect can make some critical recommendations for driving our hero's messages into the collective consciousness of this country.

Much of what Dr. Paul has to say requires some understanding of history, economics, mathematics, sociology, and/or common sense. Let's face it, many American voters cannot understand some of what he means or says. Certainly, they do not feel the emotion of what he says! The strongest candidates so far have been trying to connect to people's emotions. When a child is missing, every parent can easily put themselves in the position of either the missing child or her parents! There is no guesswork and the concept hits home!

Please, if you can, identify concepts such as the following, and then try to come up with a more emotional or vivid expression. I'll give one example, but I am sure our collective emotional intellect will come up with much better examples:

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[Concept One]
Dr. Paul says something like:
They don't attack us because we are free and prosperous, they attack us because we are over there.

How About:
They don't attack us because we are free and prosperous, they attack us because we have manipulated their governments, terrified their children, destroyed their neighborhoods, and killed their relatives.

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[Concept Two]
Dr. Paul says something like:
History shows us that all great empires eventually collapse from the erosion of their currency.

Can You Improve that?

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Dr. Paul says something like:
How would we like it if China had bases in Mexico and Cuba and troops here telling us how to live.

Can You Improve that?

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Please try to come up with other Ron Paul statements or concepts and try to improve them. Even if he does not choose to use them, we can use them in our own interactions with others.

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Be present, tread softly, breath deeply, be peaceful, be patient, and encourage others and vote:

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT

if you want to post stuff like this.

You basically stated that Ron Paul is too timid, doesn't display a backbone, and acted like "a polite school kid." You want him to be more like Romney, Guliani and Huckabee.

This is not constructive criticism. It is just criticism.
Do you think Lew Moore sits around reading your posts and reporting back to Ron Paul?

As far as I'm concerned, Ron Paul doesn't need to do anything but keep on being Ron Paul. It got him this far, hasn't it?

and btw, don't tell us what the "truth" is. There are enough people already working on that, and the last thing we need is a professed supporter telling us the same ol' line.

it sounds like many of us were somewhat frusterated, after all why would'nt we want Dr Paul to get a raving applause after every comment. it would definetly reinforce our insecurities as to his progress in NH. anyhow, after a short pitty party (frusteration of silence by Dr Paul) on my part and analyzing the comments by the others, i realized that many of the responses by the others were exactly what Dr Paul has been saying since day 1, only with their little twist mixed in so as to not draw attention to the fact that Dr Paul initiated these ideas. this was also very true of the democrats, in fact almost to the tee. seems all the candidates are watching Dr Paul as students in a classroom, and as they learn from his lectures, they express it as their idea.

did anyone see the results for the facebook most important issue of the nite on ABC? it was the economy, and Dr Paul was the only person to beat it home. FRUSTERATION turned into FUEL from that moment on, and for that reason i give Dr Paul a "10". let the others duke it out, over petty issues. but when the Dr talks people listen. and nobody knows MONEY like Dr Paul.
Burn the Flame Brightly my friends, and do not be discouraged. Ring the Bell for Freedom!!!

Mike Huckabee surged by appearing to be an average Joe; I know folks who are scared of Ron Paul's intelligence-- they just can't keep up with him and would vote for someone they understood!

I'm pretty happy that Ron Paul stayed grounded.

I thought this was his best performance. He actually told a JOKE! The other candidates were fighting over who was the most like BUSH. He owned this debate. Next time you are going to post a defeatist comment go call some independents.

The beginning was terrible with 4 of them ganging up on him (Huckabee stayed out of it). He did the best he could. Mitt Romney was an @$$. Rudy of course was Mr. 911 blah blah blah. I wish that Ron would have called them out on the price of the war. he's done it in the past. We are borrowing from the Chinese to fight these wars and in return they build up their armies. They have us by an economic stranglehold and soon will perhaps be a major military force. (sigh) We'll see what New Hampshire thinks on Tuesday.

I think part of the problem is that so many people are used to RUDENESS today. Just look at how these so called news people are LOUD and DISRESPECTFUL to people they are interviewing. It is very common today. Since political candidates want to appear strong and in your face it will corner votes some votes.

Dr. Paul supporters are about SUBSTANCE rather than STYLE. I can see what you are saying and yes he will not get some votes from shallow people. I doubt the shallow people vote. We are counting on people who can look pass the IMAGE. Like someone said rub to brain cells together and LISTEN to Dr. Paul's view of this countries problems.

Years ago, the term UGLY AMERICAN was a common term. Most people around the world just think we are LOUD and STUPID today and if you watch some videos on this we would have to agree. Our current president has been labeled the cowboy who is gunho and a moron.

Dr. Paul is just what this country needs to embrace and export INTELLIGENCE and RESPECT. Dr. Paul stands on a platform that is poler opposite of the other ego driven candidates. He was attacked for his view, he responded in a calm respectful manner. I am very proud of our leader he stayed the course. You are looking for a tiger, Dr. Paul is the elephant.

He did look like he was a bit run down I imagine the juice they have that psychopath McCain is on

Give me Liberty or Give me death

Nothing but CONTEMPT!! YOUR PART OF THE PROBLEM.

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”
Theodore Roosevelt quotes (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919)

jean allen

I disagree with Sean. In the very beginning,when they tried to drown Dr. Paul out, it was frustrating. HOWEVER, as the debate wore on, I thought he was confident and forceful.
He was the only one who got applause! I'm proud of his performance.
Dr. Paul, you were great! Thank you for representing us so well. We love you!

Jean Allen
Tuscaloosa, Al.

Stirner.

I'm older than Ron Paul... Youth, and most of his supporters are said to be "youthful", sometimes do not understand that sitting "there like a polite school kid" is a very subtle rhetorical device (think Socrates). He appeared to be, and likely was, listening. His somewhat nervous posture was not threatening or aggressive as with McCain, nor confused, as with Romney, nor simply excited, as with Rudy. Keep in mind that Dr. Paul did not make it to where he is without having a certain (sorry to be obtuse -- but this is quite indefinable), "presence". He knows just what he is doing. Trust him -- he isn't an old fool. He knows, as my father did, that one should often give one's opponents enough rope so that they can hang themselves -- and they will. Oh, perhaps not as quickly as impatient souls might wish, but it will happen. He knows that even if he loses the nomination, that what he has evoked cannot be lost. This sense of his own truth displays what no amount of table-thumping, smooth looks and clever argument can ever obtain -- an image of integrity cast, but not lost, among sophists.
He is even now being rather badly imitated in both attitude and policy. The young people who have faced up to the ice of Iowa and New Hampshire, should not panic. Patience. Paul is not so concerned as you are over how he appears, because he is beyond appearances, and knows that his philosophy will ultimately prevail. I think of Thomas Paine's remark about the "Summer Soldiers" -- well, there are also "Winter Soldiers" -- those who lose battles but not the war. We are now in the "winter".

And much of it negative.

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The Dr's prescription: Take the red pill.

yeah he was POLITE.. call it timid.. call it respectful... this is a debate not a bloodletting..

As for not giving a reason to get with the revolution...

HOW ABOUT A SANE FOREIGN POLICY..> Vs. the NUTS UP THERE!!..

Thank you mcinsane for pointing out that you have been involved in every major foreign policy decision of the last 20 years...

Peace

Oh, BALONEY! What did you expect for him to get in the middle of the fracas between McCain and Romney. They were making fools of themselves and he very clearly explained that it's the "economy stupid," in regards toi the illegal immigration question. It's the draw from free medical and free schooling that draws them here. He also brought attention to the National ID card. What more do you want!
Ron is who he is. He's not the frappy, Ivy League, cute smiling Madison avenue slickster of a Romney. He's not the boring, mumbling, whispering McCain, but he is the principled Statesman who YOU should be proud of! He's up against the entire Establishment up there on that stage! Yes, he was not aggressive, but neither was Fred. Both, I felt. gave calm and reasoned answers to all the questions. His mention the similarities between himself and Obama -the youngsters in their camps. He also mentioned the differences. Turn your telescope around and look through the right end.

if bryankalos actually flagged this thread, then he gives 4truth1's follow up post alot of credence

about Ron Paul...I'll tell I would be leaning toward John Edwards. He's being very passionate about special interests and how they are involved in everything in Washington.

Now Dr. Paul needs to talk about this, he knows what goes on in Washington. He needs to make it clear that special interests avoid his office like the plague. Because they know they will get no where with him.