Time to plan ahead. Time to create "Plan B".
Submitted by meowmixeater on Sat, 01/05/2008 - 21:12
I'm not a troll and spend at least 2 hours everyday making Ron Paul signs and putting them up around my area but it's time for a reality check. There is a good chance our good man may not win the nomination, if this happens we must be preapred to take back our country another way. Let us start create Plan B. We need to be able to change our country by getting around the president. What can we do if this situation occurs. Let's have some serious discussion about this.
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Plan B in Addition to Plan A
absolutely there should be a Plan B. and it should be mentioned every time you talk to someone about Dr Paul. expose local government for who they they are and keep them constantly monitored and accountable. i have a few retired people in my group and they love being active, making calls and informing the group of any new or changing developments. like one member said to me recently "i feel twenty years younger, and i have alot of catching up to do". besides when Dr Paul gets to Washington hes going to need alot of help, and people to pass the TORCH to.
Ring the Bell for Freedom!!!
Plan B
We need to shift from our sign making to plan B, and GOTV Get Out The Vote for Ron Paul. There is very SPECIFIC information in the form of FREE training videos here:
http://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassrootscentral.test/signup.php
Identifying those in your neighborhood and precinct who already ARE ROn PAul supporters, getting data on them and getting them OTV is CRITICAL. It is how George Jr. won Ohio and was re- elected.
Please...its not as fun and exciting as making signs was...but if we do this, WE CAN WIN!!!!!!
Go here NOW:
http://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassrootscentral.test/signup.php
We have to GO GET our freedom!
Who will join us??
And hit the streets?
sign up here..
http://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassrootscentral.test/signup.php
How bad do you want LIBERTY???? How MAD are you at MSM and the laughing idiots at tonight's debate?
YES -- This is exactly what we need.
We were out on the streets today in Seattle going door to door. We need to be doing this every day. We need to hit everyone in our Precincts. Sign up to be a Precinct Captain. Get out and identify every supporter and get the vote out.
"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"
Ron Paul is my President.
Something we can all do, all the time...
Speak out in favor of the Liberty Amendment. It's been building slow momentum for nearly 50 years.
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The opposite of freedom is slavery; if I am 99% free, then I am part slave, which is like being "a little bit pregnant." Freedom versus slavery is a zero-sum game.
Plan B -- Take Back Congress
Whether or not Plan A remains on track, Plan B is to have thousands of Liberty candidates running for state and federal office.
See http://LibertyCongress.org for a preliminary list.
Just make sure you register an Paul site.
He would run for third party candidate. But remember, the MONEY MACHINE wil CHURN OUT A SURPRISE IF THAT HAPPENS... BLOOMBERG or GORE.
Doesn't matter though. truth is a word that will never disappear from the language. So we can't loose. We all must stay united NO MATTER WHAT. It's not just PAUL. ITS US!!!! That is the purpose. But the powers that be won't let go so easy. Be prepared.
Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?
No matter what
The revolution continues!
Buy More Ammo
"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"
Ron Paul is my President.
Plan B???...........BUY AMMO
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Better..
Buy it now, while it's still legal!
"Don't taze me Bro."
This is...
... bigger than any one man or any one election. Ron Paul has given us a message and we have built an organization and a movement. I'm focused on winning this primary. But I'm also looking at my local community. I'm looking at the rules and government that affect our everyday lives. We must take the concept of freedom to our local governments, our state governments, to our congressional representatives, and to the next president - whoever that may be.
We have already won a major victory, just by seeing how many others there are who value freedom. This is a generational struggle, and it is a battle that will never fully be won. But unlike the pointless wars of the status quo, this war must be fought in the realm of ideas. In that battle, we are fully armed and ready for combat.
Plan B is PLAN A
We CONTINUE to build support spread the message and seek the Republican Nomination... we raise money give money..
AND WORK EVEN HARDER.. Our guy KNOWS what he is doing... have faith..
Pray if you believe in that..
Peace
Are you crazy???
No way! We don't need a "plan b". What we do NEED is to devote ALL of our time, energy, and resources to getting this amazing man in the White House where he belongs. I do not intend to waste a single minute on thought with such a defeatist attitude.
This man is at an age he should be able to relax, enjoy time with his family and enjoy the fruits of his years of labor. Instead, he's chosen to work to restore our great nation to what it was intended. What a hero! What an inspiration! I am so excited and hopeful!! Even years and years from now this man will be remembered as one of the greatest heros in our country's history. He is a man of unbelievable honor and integrity.
NO PLAN B!!
Plan B is ....
Abolish the 16th Amendment......
By getting rid of the income tax, we;
1) Stop foriegn Wars of Aggression and US Corporate-Military Imperialism
2) Lower the cost basis of the USA, giving a boon to the USA Economy and bring back high paying jobs into the USA, allowing us to Compete with China & India
3) Create the climate for "good bottom up socialism", ie Charities to fill the societal nitch of a social safety net
4) End Corporatism == Corporations are thrown to the wolves of Pure Competition
5) Return the Federal Government to its proper limited Role, allowing States and Counties to take on more of the uniqueness of its people.
There already is...
In most states, includng Virginia where I live, there is a Republican Liberty Caucus. Got find out more - google Republican Liberty Caucus and contact your leader. Virginia just reorganized. We need you. Take that Ron Paul enthusiasm and get involved.
Also get involved in your local and state party - be active. find a place of service. Support liberty-minded candidates. Remember, not all will be like Cong. Paul on the war but liberty-minded candidates need help.
Finally, if the Lord moves you - run for office. Local and state offices are useful places to start a liberty movement. Be a blogger for local issues after you win. Find government waste and oppose vast entitlement programs.
Sandy Sanders
Sandy Sanders
www.varight.com
the RLC is a great idea, but
the RLC is a great idea, but until Dondero (the Ron Paul hater) gets kicked out for being a phony libertarian, I have no interest in joining.
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Registered Republican
Federalist Society Member
REAL Conservative for Ron Paul
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Registered Republican
Federalist Society Member
REAL Conservative for Ron Paul
I can't believe I'm commenting on this ...
... because actually I wanted to flag this post, but I hesitate to have somebody's thread deleted. Having said that, I am absolutely frustrated and frankly, a little bit disgusted at some of the people on here (a minority, IMO) who, either disappointed with Iowa or the debates, etc.) who are so quick to concede defeat. We are at the beginning of what is truly a revolution here people .... a revolt against the MSM, a revolt against the government, a revolt against apathy and "business as usual". Of course we don't know WHO will win the nomination ... but this is lunacy to start thinking of "Plan B's and "I need to start thinking about my second choice". For me, there IS no second choice. If Ron Paul isn't the nominee, I write him in. If Ron Paul isn't the nominee, I will take up his cause and fight for change myself. Yes, we need to make sure that the people on this board stick together after the election regardless of the outcome, but to think of anything other than working together toward victory only diminishes the cause we all claim to be working toward. The issues are too critical and the stakes are way too great to throw in the towel now. Let's do this!!
"Plan B" is an Independant/Libertarian Run
Look, all the mainstream party participants and media wish to cast Dr. Paul as "outside" of their system. Why NOT go with it? If we all agree, and a large portion of average America unconciously KNOWS that the "system" is off track, let's run the revolution as a unique choice in the national election.
Let NO ONE say they did not have a choice....were not informed.....were stuck in between "the lesser of two evils".....
"Luctor et Emergo" - Struggle and Emerge
We should run for office ourselves.
Regardless if he becomes president or not, we need to start running for office at all levels of government. Find people among us who are good at debate and get them to run. If you can't find anyone, then run yourself. Dr. Paul can't do this by himself. He needs us.
Indeed, run for office. I
Indeed, run for office. I ran for a county board of supervisor position in November and all of a sudden have some local credibility. Even though I lost to a 12-year incumbent my campaign brought Dr. Paul and small government to people's attention. Good people are always needed as candidates (sorry, not implying I am necessarily good people).
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." --Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)
Although you all don't know
Although you all don't know me as I'm an infrequent contributor, I just returned from a rally in Vancouver WA. 200 or more in attendance with speakers, music, Dr. Paul dvd's playing on a big screen, posters, banners, tables, everything, a fabulous turn out for a cold day in the northwest. People were energized. Passers-by were stopping to see what was going on. The whole this was uplifting. Really helped re-energize and rekindle my ambition. This is not a short-term assignment and I have to keep reminding myself of this.
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." --Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)
Thanks, great post.
This is uplifting indeed.
Like Kenny Rogers said,
Like Kenny Rogers said, you've got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. We haven't even been dealt a full hand yet.
That said, if there does come a point when we need to fold our hand, I hope Ron Paul supporters will harness this momentum and organize a march on Washington. Imagine 1 million people with one simple demand: obey the Constitution. No more absurd manipulation of various clauses to advance partisan agendas, just read the text and have the common sense and intellectual honesty to interpret it literally.
How could anyone argue with that, in front of media cameras, without losing face?
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The opposite of freedom is slavery; if I am 99% free, then I am part slave, which is like being "a little bit pregnant." Freedom versus slavery is a zero-sum game.
I think everyone has had this thought
at one time or another. Here is my thoughts on this. Dr. Paul all the way. If Dr. Paul doesn't get the nod to go on. I will first see what Dr. Paul suggests.
There seems a lot of agreement that OUR STRENGTH is our numbers. We may have different views on things but ONE THING we agree on. Our rights come from following the CONSTITUTION. I will remain an INDEPENDENT and would encourage others to become Independent because the Democrat or the Republican parties are contaminated and we are foolish to think there is one bit of difference between them. Be friends with all parties but align with none. Just like Dr. Paul says about different countries. Lets make the parties work harder for our vote. Study the candidates VERY closely, sort of a TRUTH test before we will give them our most precious VOTE. For me it is the candidate NOT the party that influences my vote.
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
Confucius
Confucius say troll who eats meowmix is a pussy.
I agree 100%
Ron Paul himself said that the revolution will continue with or without him. The critical thing we must do is keep this network of folks intact and keep adding to our numbers. We have already proven that we can unite to exert incredible leverage. We just need to stay focused on our goal and keep thinking of new, creative ways of achieving that goal.
DOOR TO DOOR
If you want to make a difference then commit to going door to door
"If I give government the right to control you, I give them the right to control me"
"If I give government the right to control you, I give them the right to control me"
Patience!
hey meowmixeater,
You sound like that student who has worked very hard in the months leading to the exams but just in the last week is freaking out just because he is not feeling confident. You should be more confident about your hard work. Not many supporters have done (if I were to believe what you keep devoting 2 hr/day for Ron Paul) what you have been doing.
Hard work has a funny way of providing you the expected results sometimes and the hard worker is in all awe when he gets it.
And what I have heard/seen till now from the other candidates, it is either Ron Paul or not much. I had always thought that nobody could be worse than Bush/Cheney but looking at Dem and GOP gang apart from RP, I dont feel that optimistic anymore.
Hate povery, not the poor - Gandhi
Hate povery, not the poor - Gandhi
Plan B should be to do what you do once you get a movement.
That is to move. Its time for all of you so called die hards to get off your butts and sign up at the Ron Paul campaign as a precinct captain and find the likeminded Ron Paul supporters and get out the vote. Stop waisting time argueing with each other and others. Find the people that agree with what we believe and make sure they are a vote. All we have done is make a movement. If we are to scared to move when it is crunch time then we are the ones that have caused us to lose in the end. We are grassroots we waved signs and we grew to become an army. Now it is time to unite that army with all the like minded in your precinct. Now it is time to find all those people living around you that have been won over by all the debates and your hard earned money you donated. So come on everyone do your part and find these people in your precinct. Lets go gather in the harvest from our seed that we have planted. If we don't harvest it its all for nothing its been a huge waist of time. Don't let Ron Paul down now. UNITE RON PAUL ARMY. THERE IS A FINAL BATTLE TO WIN. THERE IS NO TIME TO WAIST TRYING TO AWAKEN THE DEAD ITS TIME TO LOCATE THE LIVING.