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Sh*t Santorum says

Submitted by Independent Pursuit on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 06:12

Current Events

This guy is dumb and crazy.

http://www.liveleak.com/v...

BUMP. This guy is whacked - whacked...

Submitted by pawnstorm12 on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 10:23. Permalink

WHACKED!!!

And how many Santorum supporters call Dr. Paul AND US kooks.

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Loves it

Submitted by joefromjerze on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 00:44. Permalink

Loves it

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I have to return some videotapes...

I don't know whether to laugh

Submitted by Hasha on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 00:11. Permalink

I don't know whether to laugh hysterically or to be very afraid...

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The Ayatollah Santorum ☪

Submitted by Barracuda_Trader on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 00:01. Permalink

America needs a Constitutional President not The Ayatollah Santorum ☪

It's not the president's job to be our Ayatollah.

It's the president's job to defend the Constitution and uphold the rule of law.

This is America.

Not Iran!

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I don't have a problem with Santorum's moral stance

Submitted by everlasticity on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 23:15. Permalink

it is how he would choose to implement his beliefs that scares me. If Santorum could separate his personal beliefs from his political beliefs and understand that his is not the only point of view, that the constitution was designed to deal with multiple, often contradictory beliefs, he would be rather honorable. Instead, Santorum takes a hardline stance and then makes it as if everyone has to follow or else they are evil and terrible.

My take

Submitted by magicmann on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 22:52. Permalink

I wathed an interview with Rick last weekend and he was asked about the situation when they found out their little girl would be born with issues. He said that the doctor wanted to do a procedure to see if the baby was healthy and was told that if it wasn't they would be able to abort the fetus. He said that over 95% of the fetuses that had the same condition his baby had have been aborted. Well he looked into his faith and made a decision. That is my point. He was able to make a decision. The doctors couldn't force him and his wife to abort the fetus. I think that he needs to drop his rhetoric concerning this because he had his choice. Now he wants to take away anyone else's ability to make that choice. The decision is hard enough for those that face that decision but it has always been a personal decision. I just find it a little strange that he can decide and others can't. As far as I'm concerned he is no better than Hitler and I'm tired of those that would attempt to take away my right to make my own decisions. This is what is wrong with America. I've read the bible and I don't recall anywhere ever reading anything about Jesus going about and lobbying government to change their laws or make a law that coincides with the bible. Is there anyone else out there that can point me to a verse in the bible where Jesus went to a government official and demanded that they change or add a law so it conformed to the teachings in the bible? I sure would appreciate some input from others on this.

Great take on the YouTube craze...Sh!t ??? says

Submitted by Road Runner on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 13:12. Permalink

We should make one for Ron Paul...only it would be a clip of someone calling him kooky and then Ron Paul saying something great

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What scares me the most

Submitted by ralph hornsby on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 10:06. Permalink

is people buying this crap. There are people out there that hate Obama so much they would vote for something like this.

He comes from a long line of facists and communists

Submitted by sleepdog on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 09:47. Permalink

Not surprised, perhaps it's a genetic disorder.

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"America is a salad... that

Submitted by LyingDutchman on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 09:39. Permalink

"America is a salad... that you toss.."
Hahaha... This guy is just asking for it.

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I loved this

Submitted by tsv0728 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 22:18. Permalink

One. I think that was a Freudian double entendre myself.

santorum salad dressing on the side, if you please.

Submitted by bytejockey on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 11:40. Permalink

hahaha .. +1 all

Submitted by LyingDutchman on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 09:16. Permalink

hahaha .. +1 all around!

we'll call it the 'Little Caesar-salad special'

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It comes with it.

Submitted by Lao Tzua on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 22:29. Permalink

(Sorry -I couldn't resist ;)

Ron paul

Submitted by tsv0728 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 09:37. Permalink

Is a social conservative, but he certainly doesn't agree with Frothys solutions. Rick would like nothing so much as a Christian theocracy in this country. I would like to see RevPac put together an attack ad showing those theocratic sounding quotes. Mulla Santorom has exactly 0 understanding of what America is about.

If there are such quotes

Submitted by kevinkervick on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:23. Permalink

I'd like to see them. I agree that a lot of these guys are confused about the so called religious founding of this nation. But I have never seen anything from Santorum and I lived in Pennsylvania for much of his tenure there, that suggests he wants to create a theocratic state.

Santorum is a devout Catholic who lives his life that way. Some of that dogma is ridiculous, but much of it is very healthy for civilization. Things like love your neighbor, try to avoid sin, honor your parents and support your family, be a responsible father, respect life, act based on your conscience, be honest, and try to leave the world better than you found it.

We throw the baby out with the bathwater when we reject moral leadership because we have a particular axe to grind.

My problem with Santorum

Submitted by tsv0728 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 22:17. Permalink

isn't his religious beliefs. It is that he expects everyone else to behave within his religious construct. Try this one.

"The idea that the Crusades and the fight of Christendom against Islam is somehow an aggression on our part is absolutely anti-historical. And that is what the perception is by the American Left who hates Christendom. ... What I'm talking about is onward American soldiers. What we're talking about are core American values."

Tell me how I don't interpret that as 'onward American soldiers in your fight for Christendom'

Or this one "Would the potential attraction to Mormonism by simply having a Mormon in the White House threaten traditional Christianity by leading more Americans to a church that some Christians believe misleadingly calls itself Christian, is an active missionary church, and a dangerous cult?"

Of course Santorum backs away from this crap, but his point is obvious. He wants to stir up the Christian base, and uses old Christian wars as his spoon.

And obviously you have my favorite quote, where he completely rejects the conservative idea of small gov't. "This idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, that we shouldn't get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn't get involved in cultural issues ... that is not how traditional conservatives view the world."

Sorry Rick, that is exactly how traditional conservatives view the world. The fact that NeoCon's have hijacked the party, using Christianity as a tool has nothing to do with the real roots of the conservatism.

"Do what I DICTATE/say, Not What I Do..."

Submitted by Susie 4 Liberty on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 09:32. Permalink

From some articles I've read, Santorum is a perfect example of "Do what I say; not what I do... because I'M privileged and 'special', and you are to be the Recipient of my Dictates in your private life." With the fight ahead of us to rescind the Liberty-Grabbing/Unconstitutional Legislation that's recently passed Congress, can you imagine what a nightmare it would be for us to have Santorum as Chief Executive?

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Hmm, most of what he said

Submitted by kevinkervick on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 09:21. Permalink

I liked and I'd bet Ron Paul agrees with much of it too. Paul said the other day that we are becoming a fascist state. Progressivism is fascism. Cultural Marxism, which Santorum was referring to but not by name, is fascism. Entitlement programs harm people and they harm the country. Paul certainly agrees with that. The left constantly uses guilt-tripping to get Americans to support their power grabs. It characterizes people with whom they disagree as evil rather than wrong. Santorum is right.

The Paul campain anti-Santorum ad I just saw does not refer to any of the criticisms in this ad. It focuses on Santorum's spending - areas where he is not fiscally conservative. Both Paul and Santorum are social conservatives. Paul is a constitutionalist who believes the feds have no business spending and enabling. Santorum sees a federal role. That is the key distinction.

This criticism of Santorum looks like it came straight from Organizing for America, the Obama campaign platform. It speaks to liberal sensitivities and therefore will not help Paul get nominated in a Republican primary.

We should be careful to criticize Santorum on the right things, not simply pick up on leftist and media smear jobs.

Agreed

Submitted by anothernobody on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:03. Permalink

You are absolutely right. I was going to make my own post when I read yours and decided would be better to back you up on this.

This is the same kind of cut and paste editing that someone used to make it seem as though Paul was choosing the Judge for VP. As a matter of fact you could use the same cut and paste of sound bites to make Ron Paul look worse.

This is pure idiocy on the part of the editor and those who buy into this kind of left wing attack. You can tell the lefties by how much they love this crap.

I am conservative and some of what Santorum says is right on with me but his means do not justify the ends. Dr Paul with whom I agree the most and he having the same view on a lot of what Santorum says is more preferred because the means by which he chooses is more natural and not dictatory.

If it comes down to Obama or Santorum you will see the left right split that characterizes most elections. Only a liberal left wing communist pinko (edit) would vote for Obama again. At least with Santorum I would get a couple of things I agree with. Obama offers nothing.

Perfect

Submitted by kevinkervick on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:45. Permalink

As much as I have come to despise the conservative media for its treatment of Paul, and as much as I think religious conservatives are dangerous on some important levels, I believe leftist anarchism and cultural Marxism represent greater threats to liberty. Frankly, I am confused when I see Paul supporters seemingly so averse to social conservatism. It is not as if our guy is some dope smoking, anti-establishment hippie radical. The most anti-establishment thing I ever heard about Paul is that he doesn't like to wear his seatbelt! The guy is a Baptist. Those folks are far more authoritarian than Catholics. His wife of 50+ years is selling a cookbook for crying out loud.

I understand there are righty libertarians and lefty libertarians. Paul seems to be the former.

Are you serious? You liked most of what he said?

Submitted by Jleblanc on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 10:51. Permalink

You think santorum and paul are similar on social issues? Are you fucking kidding me?

Of course they are

Submitted by kevinkervick on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:12. Permalink

Paul is a social conservative like Santorum, the difference being Paul does not see a federal role in social policy, nor does he believe anyone should force their values on anyone else. Neither does Santorum, although if you believe the leftist spin then you probably want to portray Santorum as a Nazi. That has always been the leftist strategy in order to create a more libertine society. Demonize anyone who uses moral language as a absolutist tyrant who wants to control people. We should not play along with their game.

The difference between the men is in what each chooses to emphasize and the rhetorical style each employs. Paul does not believe in lecturing people on his social values (Paul knows much of his support is coming from youth who react reflexively to any form of moralizing). Santorum sees himself as more of a moral spokesperson for social issues. I'd like to see Paul split the difference a bit better in order to pull in more conservatives who are looking for a moral leader on more than war and economics. Republicans in their 40's 50's and 60's believe moral decline is as significant as economic decline. Paul can make moral arguments without being a moralizer.

For instance, when he says I don't smoke pot and I don't think people should either, but I defend their right to do it if that is their choice, that is a powerful statement. Or, I believe abortion is murder, but the laws are such that today people have a choice about that. We should work to change the law. Or, entitlement and irresponsibility are not friends of liberty. Too much of the former brings calls for tyrannical government. I implore everyone who supports liberty to live their lives as responsible human beings. I have tried to do that in my own life, often failed, but I believe that is what ultimately holds a free society together.

Paul is at 11% nationally and in third or fourth in most state polls. How does he get to the next plateau? Not by adopting leftist talking points about Santorum. He will never appeal to enough liberals to pull them away from Obama. He does it by finding a way to speak in such a way that independent conservatives come his way. Those folks are ripe for the picking.

You need to repeat Ron Paul 101; they are light years apart

Submitted by President Paul ... on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 13:10. Permalink

Start with the Patriot Act.

Santorum voted in favor of the PATRIOT Act and for its reauthorization.

Ron Paul at his core, is for protecting individual freedoms, restraining government to the people from tyranny, and has an utter respect for the constitution.

Santorum does not even have a coherent notion of the fourth amendment (let alone respect for it). He states specifically that he does not believe the Patriot Act violates the 4th amendment at all. WTH??? Just remember Santorum will use this same fuzzy thinking when he approaches other constitutional points that he does not like.

Sure

Submitted by kevinkervick on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 23:47. Permalink

Paul speaks more about freedom because it sells to his libertine base, but classical liberals are just as inclined toward personal responsibility as they are toward freedom. The Founders believed that without personal responsibility and the civil society, the Republic could not be sustained. Read Locke and social contract theory.

I agree with you about Santorum's tendency and the tendency of just about everyone but Paul since the turn of the century to fuzzy the boundaries of the Constitution.

I maintain that Paul is light years closer to Santorum than he is to Obama. Obama believes the Constitution is completely irrelevant. Santorum abides the constitution but misinterprets it badly. Big difference.