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Romney / Paul "Alliance" is PROPAGANDA with a purpose

Feb 24 update: I was just told that RAND PAUL actually said he would be 'honored' to be Romney's VEEP... IS THIS TRUE?

If so he'd better retract it right away as he would be doing DAMAGE to the movement.

It's a set-up to mold the thoughts of his supporters to accept what might happen. What they are saying?

1) DC 'insiders' (read: establishment) are claiming a Romney-Paul alliance is happening (based on totally incidental observations) so that Ron can secure a VP candidacy for Rand.

2) They are warning that this is why his delegates will go to Romney in the end and asking why that will be?

My take is this:

1) The supposed perception they are creating with this rumor of an alliance is to disillusion his supporters into thinking that he too, like Romney, is a sell out and a RINO so that when he loses supporters won't be so upset and will vote for Romney. Yes that was already used on me. I was told, "see, Ron Paul is making an alliance with Romney, ergo, he = RINO". I kid you not) My response was, you cannot prove this 'alliance' and secondly, Ron Paul has never 'sold out' -- why would he now?

2) They want an excuse to explain what they are PLANNING to have happen.... you know... after they STEAL the delegates and give them to Romney? They can say "Ron gave them to him in a deal to get Rand to be the VP candidate".

It makes perfect sense to me.

Claiming there is some sort of pact between Paul and Romney just because Mrs. Paul and Mrs. Romney are 'nice' to each other, because they coordinated the winner and runner up speeches on TV in NH not to clash (because people would want to see those two the most that's the only reason they did that) are all circumstantial evidence being used. I even had one nutjob claim it is because Paul and Romney both want to 'impose the gay agenda for population control' from that moron Cliff Kincaid. This is not withstanding the fact that Paul just signed the DOM pledge... duh! (They just do not get the 10th amendment... therefore Paul is either called a homophobe or 'promoting the gay agenda' both of which are absurd. You can't have it both ways... sorry!)

My contention is that Romney would NEVER ask Rand to be his VP candidate anyway, and even if by some slim chance he did, Rand would NEVER accept.

Ron Paul is still the only true constitutional conservative. He is consistent and not prone to making 'deals'. But these establishment scumbags just don't realize how unflappable he is. We know it.

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You know, it could have an unintended positive consequence

There could be an unintended positive consequence - if average repubs pick up the idea that Ron Paul is acceptable to Romney as VP... it may accomplish a sort of a subliminal "mainstreaming" of Ron Paul through unconscious means in people who routinely accept what the mainstream media presents without thought.

One never knows - many things the establishment tries to do to RP wind up backfiring...

Anyway, I don't think RP supporters are easily swayed by MSM tactics.

Rand Paul in his own words..

"Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) joins Don & Roma. Are his father, Congressman Ron Paul, and Mitt Romney in cahoots? Could Ron Paul run as a third-party candidate? What is the Senator's reaction to Obama's "It's Not My Fault" energy speech? Why are gas prices rising? How is our tax code a "recipe for disaster"?"
http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2401554&spid=17424

Lew Rockwell

http://www.infowars.com/insider-says-talk-of-paul-romney-all...

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

Being Honored

Being honored and excepting are 2 different things..

I personally would be honored if asked to be the VEEP but would I except under Romney... NO for there are too many things that I don't see eye to eye with him on..

I would never feel "honored"

If a whore wanted to tie me down in her pimp's bed.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...

It is simply polite

We say how are you? Just fine, we answer. It is called conventional discourse. It doesn't mean anything. If someone says how are you? You don't start telling them about the condition of your health or how well you are doing at your work. You know they are just making polite noises.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

"polite noises"

Ya... that's just about what they've reduced themselves to... "polite noises." Any lower and they'll be chirping, sqwaking and oinking.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...

But we aren't talking about a whore.

We are talking about an office in government...

Listen to Rand Paul's own words on the issue which I just posted..

he explains it very well from the horses mouth...

"We are talking about an office in government.."

If "an office in government" is owned by pimps and surrounded with their whores it is an office within a whore house. Being propped up and powerless in one of their display widows is not a position to he honored.

And Rand Paul is not the "horses mouth.'

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...

Lew Rockwell

Thank you Lew for picking up on this!

http://www.infowars.com/insider-says-talk-of-paul-romney-all...

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

30 Plus Years of

Fighting battle after battle for thirty plus years without retreat and now, within sight of the goal line, Dr Paul has decided to cave in...? Give me a damn break! I'm more inclined to believe the sky is falling.

Please don't misrepresent Dr. Ron Paul.

Dr. Ron Paul has said repeatedly that if he doesn't get the nomination, that he would go for a brokered deal at the convention. A brokered deal means that either he will have to accept the parties candidate for vice president or that he will try and get on the ticket as vice president. There is really no other meaningful use of delegates in a brokered convention other than these two options.
grant

Good grief!

You seemed to have missed my point altogether.

Dr. Ron Paul 2012

I must be having a bad day. Will get my eyes checked.
grant

yes, I can see the MSM and the "GOP" . . .

scheming this together--

the fact that both wives are older and have 5 children and have been married to their husbands for many years does not powerful friendship make--

same with the men--

the important thing to the GOP and the MSM is to sabotage liberty in any possible way--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

You Say "They want an excuse"

"They want an excuse to explain what they are PLANNING to have happen.... you know... after they STEAL the delegates and give them to Romney? They can say "Ron gave them to him in a deal to get Rand to be the VP candidate".

It makes perfect sense to me."

Delegates are not paper or electronic ballots. They are men and women who support Ron Paul with a real commitment of considerable effort, time and money. They cannot be "stolen" or "given" to anyone let alone an ally of the bankers who is opposed 100% to the principles of Ron Paul AND Rand Paul.

We need not fear that the establishment will succeed in their machinations. The tide is turning and they are becoming desperate. Yes, they will try every dirty trick in their arsenal of dirty tricks but they will fail. They must become accustomed to the idea of a President Paul because that is their future.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Uh, yes they can be stolen

Anything can happen if the GOP is running the show.. where have you been?

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

How?

I am willing to learn. How can delegates be "stolen"? It was my understanding that each delegate has a vote and the votes are declared openly. How can they "steal" the votes? How would delegates react if their votes were stolen? What safeguards can be taken to prevent such an occurrence?

The way you phrased your comment was that Ron Paul would be accused of "giving" the delegates to Romney but wouldn't he and they have something to say about that? Are you saying that this "stealing" of delegates will happen at the National Convention or before? If the RP campaign is following delegate selection closely wouldn't they be aware of any shenanigans, much more than in a caucus or primary? I am finding it hard to imagine what you are describing. Help me out here.

I am from the UK although I did spend 30+ years in Canada. I am still learning about the American way of doing things so it would be helpful to know more. Also please tell me something about your own experience to validate what you are saying.

You did say the Lew Rockwell follows you on Twitter so perhaps you are a politically active person. If so then this would lend credibility to your assertions. Thanks.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Why would I vote to silence our only Senate voice?

Why would I vote to silence our only voice in the US Senate? Getting elected VP would be the equivalent of being gagged, locked in a closet, and let out only to fund-raise and deliver eulogies at state funerals. Why the hell would I/we vote for/elect that? Ask the "establishment insiders" that question in response to their allegations of an alliance.

There is one problem.. as a delegate I will not vote for VP.

I will vote solely based on the presidential nominee... unless Romney is the VP and then I will have to for the first time in my life ask Ron Paul a tough question, "Why in the HELL did you pick Romney?"

Ron Paul supporters will NEVER support Romney. Give it up already.

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You can still support and help Romney by...

only or mainly hating and criticizing Romney's rivals and rarely or never criticizing Romney, especially in any meaningful way. Saying Santy/Newt/Perry are worse than Romney is the strategy establishment wants, because this means Romney wins as he goes unscathed. Romney doesn't care if you don't like him, he cares that you are more for Obama or he than for Santy or Newt or Perry.

jj

Like your post

You my friend made my happy after reading all of the propaganda posts and threads, it's obvious that Romneys supporters are working hard today here at DP.

what if

What if the truth was not rand as Vp, but Ron as fed res chair.

No propaganda: Yes, there is an alliance confirmed by Paul.

As you say, the alliance invovles Paul giving all of his delegates to Romney. Benton and Paul have already confirmed they speak and coordinate together on almost a daily basis. Media is not spinning anything.

jj

What have you been smoking?

What have you been smoking? Will you pass that around? I would like to try that insanity of yours once in a while.. LOL

Ron will not "give" his delegates to anyone.

They will vote their conscience which means they will continue to vote for Ron Paul though x number of rounds of voting and gradually draw all the votes to the Doctor. The delegates are the MOST passionate of all the RP supporters. It is a solid time and money consuming commitment.

If you do not know this then you do not know Ron Paul or his supporters.

Get ready to look for new employment.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

It's all about Dr. Ron support base

They want the votes of Dr Paul supporters, they need these votes so bad...guess what, they will never get them, these votes are for a vision of a painless and just tomorrow, sorry they cannot be manipulated or sold.

Who are you?

Here for 2 weeks and your tell me what I will or will not do. Screw you. I am an individual and will make my own decision. No one is forcing you to follow Dr. Ron Paul. I will vote for Dr. Ron Paul if Romney is his vice president and I will vote for Dr. Ron Paul if he decides to be Romney's running mate. I'll worry about Romney afterward and do everything possible to get him to be impeached or resign or follow the teachings of the Constitution.
grant

Why does my post bother you?

Why does my post hurt you? Do I know you? You only want to vote for Ron Paul only if he runs with Romney, I understand that, but why are you hurt by my post?

You want to see Dr. Ron Paul fail.

You are not here for the movement. If you were than you would know that the movement goes on with or without Dr. Ron Paul. You don't care about the movement, you just want it your way or you are not going to support Dr. Ron Paul. I would vote for Dr. Ron Paul even if he was running for office with George W. Bush or if he was running as Obama's vice president as long as it got him into office. He is a voice and he will continue being heard if he makes it into office. If not he goes home and fades from the scene.
grant