What is wrong with Thompson?
Submitted by brianb on Sat, 01/05/2008 - 23:46
I'd like to know the big negatives about Thompson. He seems less of a neo-con in the latest debate is that so?
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Thompson is my 2nd choice
My only gripe is that he doesn't "want" it and I don't see the grassroots uplifting him up as much as Ron Paul.
Yeah, Thompson's rhetoric
Yeah, Thompson's rhetoric isn't bad. He's actually closer to Reagan in a lot of ways than any of the others (even RP), at least in how he campaigns.
However, his record isn't anything like his rhetoric. He's actually QUITE a bit like John McCain in terms of his Senatorial record...
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Writers Strike
He was doing so well before he got in the race while the writers were still working. It is those friggin unions......
Unscripted
with nothing of substance to say, he is a very dull speaker, any Tennesseeans on here why was this guy ever elected to serve as your Senator?
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I liked him in Die Hard 2 but...
He panders to the Globalists and CFR Scum.
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Ron Paul is my President.
The light
He seems to have a loose light bulb to me. He seems to flicker and dim.
give me strength
Thompson is a one dimensional actor and a zero dimensional politician I mean he just talked in circles tonight it was embarrassing. The others like John, Rudy and Mitt may have been laughing at Ron but that was forced, they were truely laughing at Fred Flintstone.
If Thompson smiled, his face would crack...
loved that sour look... it was like "I dont want to be here"...
Thompson is good, he
Thompson is good, he delivered one of Ron Pauls speaches verbatim. He is a really good actor,
He had it down pat. "We got to Trade with people" . I like see a video put together with a time line and show Ron give the Phrase then show how well The actor had duplicated the lines.
Then that precher dude he is not as good an actor as the actor dude, he did fare but he needs to practice being Ron Paul a little better.
Bunch of liars. Ron Paul is the only honest man in the bunch. I read the republican Platform here in Harris County Houston Texas, not sure if it is the same nation wide. Ron Paul is the only Republican running if you use their platform to define who is a republican.
I think I will read the democrats platforms tomorrow, I might be equally shocked at how sane it is.
A buch of Merchants of fear leading us into world war three.
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That would be an awesome video!
Wish I knew someone who could do it.
You know the sad part is, that they are only saying and they are not behind it. Then because of MSM, you and I and the people who support him are the only ones who know this.
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Add in Huckabee saying he
Add in Huckabee saying he wants to abolish the income tax, and rudy and romney saying they follow the Constitution.
Because
He isn't honest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvMWGNX7HlI
&
He embraces his own version of Amnesty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkN2fYnMTBs
If that isn't enough please read on:
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Fred Thompson's globalist pedigree
Posted: May 19, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Tom Kovach
Voters and pundits alike are claiming that a potential Fred Thompson run for the White House could "save" the conservative movement that has been betrayed by President George W. Bush. Such a claim defies the facts, because Thompson's political pedigree includes Bush-like globalist credentials.
This column was prompted by near-record e-mail responses, the vast majority of which asserted that a previous WND column on this topic did not go far enough. Some of the material supporting this follow-up was provided by those WND readers, some of whom claimed to write from Lawrenceburg, Tenn. (Thompson's hometown).
Just as the favorite Republican non-candidate gets near-constant news coverage, even for saying nothing, many of Thompson's policies are revealed more by what he does not say than by what he does say. Even before the 9-11 attacks, President Bush was already trying to downplay even the word "amnesty." Similarly, the public statements of Fred Thompson do not reject amnesty for illegal aliens. Revelations about the design of the premeditated merger of the United States with Mexico and Canada prove that Bush and his Republican insiders harbored a long-time globalist agenda. Just who were those globalist insiders? Is Thompson one of them?
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Tennessee's globalist connections
The core values of the average voter in Tennessee are very conservative. This fact has produced Democrats that voted overwhelmingly for Ronald Reagan. But, out of misguided local loyalty, the conservative voters in Tennessee have also repeatedly elected homegrown globalists. Among them are prominent United States Sens. Howard Baker, Bill Frist, Lamar Alexander, and – yes – Fred Thompson.
All four of those Republican senators from Tennessee were members of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations during their tenure in the United States Senate. (And, a Democratic senator from Tennessee – Al Gore, who became vice-president – was also a CFR member.) Baker, who mentored Thompson into politics in 1972, was part of the "Panama Canal giveaway team" during the administration of President Jimmy Carter – another CFR member. (Note that the linked CNN commentary was written by Robert A. Pastor, another CFR globalist. Pastor recently wrote a column for WorldNetDaily, claiming to distance his North American Community plan from an assault upon American sovereignty.
The "lamestream" news media treats the CFR as merely some advisory think tank. But, the Council on Foreign Relations is much more than that. Going back almost a hundred years, the CFR mission is to establish a one-world government. Because of our historic role as a beacon of freedom, the United States is an obstacle to global domination. Therefore, CFR members must work – some openly, and some secretly – to steadily undermine American sovereignty. The recent news about the North American Union is only one phase of an unrelenting effort toward global government. To solidify elitist power, that effort includes a concurrent effort toward global currency. That effort toward a one-world money system is, in turn, linked to an effort to use RFID chips in commerce and marketing. Many people believe that the use of such chips is the "Mark of the Beast," as predicted in the Holy Bible. (And, the president of the company that makes the chips is another Republican CFR member, presidential candidate Tommy Thompson. (Is anyone surprised?)
So, CFR member Lamar Alexander used to work for CFR member Howard Baker, who mentored CFR member Fred Thompson. And, Thompson was elected to the Senate in 1994, the same year CFR member Bill Frist was elected to the United States Senate from Tennessee. Both Frist and Thompson joined the CFR in 2002. So, with several years of experience on Capitol Hill at the time they both joined, there is no way either of them could reasonably deny knowledge of the agenda and influence of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations. ("What did Thompson know, and when did he know it?")
Is there any further Tennessee connection to a globalist organization and agenda? Let's see. The junior senator from Tennessee is Bob Corker, who was mentored by CFR members Frist and Alexander. (This writer personally spoke with Alexander at a fund-raiser for Corker.) Upon his inauguration, Corker was sworn in by CFR member Vice President Dick Cheney. There certainly seems to be a pattern.
By the way, during a 2002 speech at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in D.C. to his fellow CFR members, Vice President Cheney joked about getting elected by downplaying his membership in that globalist organization:
"I see a lot of old friends in the room. And it's good to be back at the Council on Foreign Relations. As Pete mentioned, I have been a member for a long time, and was actually director for some period of time. I never mentioned that when I was campaigning for re-election back home in Wyoming – (laughter) – but it stood me in good stead." It seems that having something of a country-boy image is helpful to concealing a globalist agenda – whether in Wyoming or in Tennessee.
Will the new junior senator from Tennessee join the ranks of globalist CFR members? Frist and Thompson did not join the CFR until several years after they were in office. Both had already proven their globalist credentials by that time, having voted in favor of relaxed immigration and border security rules. Corker is already on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, as were CFR members Baker, Gore, Thompson and Frist. What did these gentlemen from Tennessee – elected by conservatives – do while they were in office?
Baker helped to give away the Panama Canal. Gore's committee on aviation security eschewed probable terrorist connections to the downing of TWA Flight 800. Thompson voted to expand NAFTA, and to relax limits on migrant farm workers. Frist (as majority leader) refused to push a tough border-security bill through the Senate, even though H.R. 4437 – the "Wall Bill" – had passed in the House overwhelmingly.
Bob Corker talked tough on border security during his campaign, but couldn't quite shake allegations that his construction company had hired illegal aliens and had ignored warnings from INS officials. (Those allegations, by the way, came from Republican primary opponents, as well as his Democratic general election opponent.) So, it would appear Corker would be "encouraged" by globalist mentors such as Thompson to lean toward the CFR position on border security and alien workers.
And, with a political bloodline of CFR globalism behind him, doesn't it seem likely that Bob Corker would be the next CFR member senator from Tennessee? And wouldn't that scenario be far more likely if there was a President Fred Thompson to sponsor his membership? There is no doubt Thompson has a globalist pedigree. And, if he becomes a candidate for the White House, the pattern is already established for Thompson and his CFR-elite cronies to continue weakening the security of America's borders, turning a blind eye toward terrorist threats, and giving away America's strategic advantages. Regardless of his amiable personal qualities, can the United States really afford to elect a "Bush-button" globalist president such as Fred Thompson?
Thankyou for posting this.
Thankyou for posting this. This is the kind of stuff people need to get educated about.
He's a lazy bum?
:)
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
He is a lawyer and a lobbyist.
He hasn't spoken the truth in so long he has probably forgotten how, by now. But my brother is a big supporter, and he said my Dad is switching from Giuliani to Fred. But I got a Hillary supporter to switch to Ron Paul yesterday. This is Texas and our primary is not until March 4th, so many people don't pay attention until SuperTuesday. Paul will do well in central Texas and along the coast, where his district is. Can't say about north or east Texas, but out west it will probably be McCain, Huckabee or Thompson. Paul supporters are the only ones active here in central Texas so far. Have seen no other signs, except lots of Paul.
Sweetie...
Any candidate who doesn't know about the NAU or is pretending not to know is either really dumb or a lousy liar.
See you make the wrong
See you make the wrong assumption that everyone here thinks like you. There are more reasons to support Paul than NAU, CFR paranoia. I don't mean to just single you out here, but the fact that these people belong to such organizations doesn't mean they do what they say verbatim. Of course it may influence them. But being a member of CRF is not a reason for me not to vote for someone.
I'm not an ultra nationalist. I'm an individualist/pacifist/libertarian. Sure you could speculate that a NAU would hurt those things, but it remains speculative. There is no certainty of a repeat of any example you can quote either.
Thus so far I have heard he is a lier. He is a CFR member. He is lazy. That Ron has reminded him of some good ideas which he repeated.
Now the thing there that bothers me the most is lazy. But that is just what the media is saying and there seems to be so much distrust of the media here on other issues why do you believe them on that he is lazy?
Do you bother clicking links
Do you bother clicking links that people so thoughtfully embed in their comments for you? Here, try the raw link: http://conservativesagainstfred.wordpress.com/
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Based on his rhetoric, I
Based on his rhetoric, I agree that he is the least unpalatable among the other candidates -- if you plug your ears when he talks about foreign policy. But that's all it is: rhetoric.
And besides, Lew Rockwell called him a neocon. :-)
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might I suggest
Take a look at fredthompsonforum.com. You can get Fred's views plus find some people who support Fred. I'll occasionally visit that forum.
And we'll welcome you back when you return here.
deep cover
I have been in "deep cover" in those forums.
But I have been unable to locate any people who support anyone.
mikehuckabeeforum.com is my favorite
but... mittromneyforum.com is also a hoot. The Rudy forum is almost as funny.
ole freddy cracks me up...
That way he talks with a slow drawl, no energy, kinda very chill...Don't understand how he even gets out of bed to show up for these things. he doesn't seem at all concentrated on winning...lol
oooo..ooooo..I can answer that one, Mr. Cotter...
Because he's not Ron Paul...Get it? This is a Ron Paul oriented website. What are ya a joker?
Anyways, with that said...He doesn't have the message that Dr. Paul has. I agree with others that he seems a bit lethargic and more of a follower than a leader. He also has some ideas that are simply not compatible with a free person's reading of the uS Constitution, such as his stance on gun control.
Your question is the answer...Indeed what IS wrong with Thompson!?!!
GO RON GO!!! Keep fighting the good fight! It IS worth it, and we STAND WITH YOU!!!
thompson
while he is cfr and he is a globalist he does understand a bit about the the monetary and fiscal problems and the constitution. Congressman Ron Paul is obviously the best candidate. Of the other Republican presidential candidates Thompson might be the one to do the least damage to the America. That being said his lymphoma very well could come back during the presidency so the vice-president would have to be suitable. So the only way we could have Thompson as president is if Ron Paul would be his vice-president and I suggest that the reverse would be preferable.
That being said if by some stretch of the imagination Richardson would be willing to switch parties we could possibly live with him as Ron Paul's running mate even with his membership in the CFR. Remember that even Angelina Jolie is one of the 4000 members. Still I hope and will work to help the American public will realize that it is in their own best interest to have Ron Paul as their president.
Does that answer your question?
I agree with you - fred is a
I agree with you - fred is a warmongerer but he is pretty conservative. I find myself liking him sometimes. but I remember the neo-con status and forget it, but I figure he's so lazy that he would just forget about the war , and it would sit still like it has been ...and we would be better off than if Rudy got his hands on a steering wheel.
haha fred looked out of it , it was hilarious
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thompson
ignorant war-monger, just like the rest of them. he just doesn't act nearly as fake and glazed over as the other candidates (except ron paul, of course!). his economic stances are blind to the threat of recession and monetary failure, as he displayed that blindness in the debate tonight.
Fred is a member of AEI
AEI = American Enterprise Institute.
Please see the how AEI is related to CFR members.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute
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He's beholden to his masters.
They own him. He can not be trusted. He is trying, like the others to say what he thinks we want to hear. It's all rhetoric. I am proud of his recent refresher of 9th grade civics.
He's been in the Senate. If he believed so strongly in the American people and the Constitution he had his opportunity to prove it then. It's too late now. He can go prove himself and come back in 10 years.
Nothing else needs to be said.
What is wrong with Thompson?
He's not Ron Paul.
lol Yes
lo, Yes