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Sen. Rand Paul Explains His Vote In Favor Of Sanctions On Iran

Today I attended a town hall in Alexandria, KY and was able to finally ask Rand Paul a question many have wondered about, namely why he voted in favor of sanctions on Iran.

As far as I know this question hadn't been posed to him yet...

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I like wars with no murders,

I like wars with no murders, and omniscient bureaucrat on top of their game on the ground controlling sanctioned items from going into the wrong hands, and making sure food and medicine are distributed efficiently by bureaucrats and their operatives. Go Rand! Ensure Democracy in Iran! Woot!

Trojan Horse

Rand is a very intelligent guy. I have listened to him speak enough to know that he chooses his words very carefully, and anyone who can make Hannity dance, has something going for him.

Rand is "new" in the political world, and yes he has a great father who has no doubt helped him fomulate his views and principles. I have no doubt he believes the same as Ron Paul, he just has a different style.

Rand will make a run for the Presidency in the future, no doubt about it. Right now he is smart enough to start that planning.

As for the sanctions, I beleive he explains his position well enough for doing that, definitely better than invading.
Rand is smooth, but an honest smooth. Lets trust that he knows what he is doing right now. A Trojan Horse at the right time to take back this country is what I think is going on.

My sadness in all of this...

is that sometime sneakiness and subterfuge costs lives and the requirement for such sacrifice must be weighed against one's goals. In this case, no good can come from it...only expansion into the greater depths desired by those he aligned himself with and his historic and politically undeniable attachment to it...like Jefferson's actions with the Barbary Pirates...however they may be interpreted.

I see no need for this "acquiescence" to other's leadership on this as the winds of change are reaching gale force and a staunch responsible position in world affairs is what he must display to stand out to the bewildered masses that will need a leader. A leader of a different cloth...a man of principle.

You know, I've been at this all night. I am actually surprised on how deeply this affected me and maybe I'll feel better in the morning, but I didn't really know until now, how much my hopes were centered on Rand in the future. Funny.

He's shaken me hard with this one, to say little of the debt-ceiling vote...sheeesh! back to "lesser Evil" voting...

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

The "debt ceiling vote?"

The "debt ceiling vote?" Rand voted against the final bill to increase the debt ceiling. He only voted for an increase in the debt ceiling when a balanced budget amendment was attached to it. Mike Lee, Jim Demint, and every other Republican in the Senate voted for that bill as well. It would have been insane for Rand to vote with the Democrats against a balanced budget amendment.

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Seems to me like he's giving an inch to the

bomb-Iran crowd knowing full well they'll want the whole foot. Rand is no "Dr. No" but he needs their ear and he'll using that opportunity to tell them they need to back off going to war with Iran.

Rand Paul is THE BEST Senator we have

It is not even close. We have Rand Paul as the best liberty minded Senator, followed by Mike Lee, and then Jim Demint.

There aren't even many in the house that can stand up to the liberty positions of Rand. I would say Justin Amash right now is the only one.

You guys are going to be set up for a life of disappointment if you expect people to live up to Ron Paul standards all of the time. The guy is a political anomoly, about as pure as they come.

If you really disagree with Rand on this issue then write his Senate office. Each of the Senators has an email. Barrage his inbox to let him know.

There are very few people in positions to carry the torch of liberty. We certainly can disagree with them, but to completely throw them out based on one decision is going to ruin our movement. That is precisely the reason the libertarian movement never took off, even though it has an outstanding platform.

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We need to demand strict

We need to demand strict principles. if they realize that if they deviate from the principles that they proclaim they are insta out the door even though they are good on other fronts they will get the message loud and clear that we demand consistency and fortitude to stand up to the establishment. the ideals you propose are exactly why we are in the place we are at now. picking the lesser of two evils is still a pick for evil. we need to purge ourselves of these ignorant people who do not understand free markets and a libertarian political philosophy.

this is an example where he does what we like and want for a bunch of things that in the grand scheme of things are minor and then when it comes to the biggest test he shrinks and cowers away. We have to have guys that in this exact situation the most important decisions that involve innocent lives they need to step up on the side of peace. Voting for sanctions is brain dead policy because it unifies that nation and gives them more incentive to seek weapons to defend themselves and also strengthens alliances with countries that aren't friendly to us.

This is one of the big

This is one of the big reasons i don't trust Rand. Fact of the matter is that he plays ball with all these neocons because he plans on being a career politician. He certainly hasn't studied the things his father has studied and is much more willing to bow to the war mongers. thinking sanctions would do anything except unify Iran is foolish.

All i know is I am keeping an open ear and looking at what Rand is voting for but I am vvveeerrrryyyy skeptical of him. And anybody who is defending him are just idealistic fools who reallllly want RP's legacy to continue on. Reality is there will never be a man like Ron and if he doesn't get the presidency this go round I expect to see more bloodshed and hyperinflation.

Proof?

How do you know he "hasn't studied the things his father has"?

This is just outrageous, "And anybody who is defending him are just idealistic fools who reallllly want RP's legacy to continue" People defending Rand are the realistic ones, who understand that in reality "there will never be a man like Ronon."

I hate to burst your bubble, but even if Ron Paul is elected, we will still see hyperinflation and bloodshed, the damage has already been done, and all Ron Paul can do is prevent it from becoming even worse.

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Without the national fund raising network...

provided by his father, he couldn't have been elected, nor can he maintain his seat.

Someone asked how Ron and Rand were different. This is it. He doesn't decide from principle, or he does not understand the principles in play.

Either way, he very well may have ended his political career. He will certainly have ended it if he keeps having to explain and justify his votes like Santorum did.

Seriously, the one thing that SO confuses me... He was willing to discuss the Civil War as mistake, as most libertarians believe, despite how much of a target it makes you... Which gave me hope in the beginning, but now he will destroy freedom for political expediency...

Makes no sense.

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It certainly is a

It certainly is a disappointment to see that he things there are only two choices of action . . . bombing or sanctions. Both are aggressions against a country and therefore both can be considered acts of war.

If Russia or China did that to the US, there MAY not be an all out war right away against them, but there certainly would be covert actions against them (read terrorism).

While I wish he voted against the sanctions,

I like Rand more than any other senator. Compared to all other politicians, Rand is second to only Ron in my book.

I hope he is Ron's VP choice or that he runs in 2016.

Very disappointing...

I disagree with those options...

1. Do nothing
2. Do something (i.e. sanctions)
3. All out war

There is another option he failed to mention and it's called DIPLOMACY THROUGH TALKS! Rand should know better, since it happens to be the position of his father.

I also didn't like that Rand spent most of his time soft-pedaling on about preemptive war, after concluding sanctions are the only option outside of doing nothing or going to war.

If Rand wants to stay in politics I suggest he fully embrace his dad's monetary AND FOREIGN POLICY positions, as well as start sounding less like a politician.

If men are good, you don't need government; if men are evil or ambivalent, you don't dare have one.

Yeah, but if he were to do

Yeah, but if he were to do that he would not get to continue being a "regular" on the Sean Hannity show. The son is not the man that the father is. I am very glad that Dr. Paul has chosen or is leaning towards Judge Andrew Napolitano as his running mate. For one thing, the good Judge is much closer to Ron Paul (as far as politics go) than Randall Paul happens to be. Very odd. Perhaps he will get wiser as he gets older. At least that is what I am going to hope for!

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The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

JEEEZ

You guys have NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG in your lives. YOU are perfect in EVERY WAY.... OH SHUT UP whiners and disinfo agents. He is not perfect, I have 1 or 2 disappointments with him. He should be scolded by us, and told how we feel, so he can correctly make decisions in the future. WAA WAA get me a hanky. He is still has 99 turd senators below him as far as any of you should be concerned.

Rand is our man on the pitchers mound, but he is a rookie. So he won't be pitching a no hitter in the first game.

I am sure he has heard an earful. Now you guys just relax a bit.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

If we relax a bit then he

If we relax a bit then he won't get an earful. He seems to think it is ok to play politics. I suspect he is sometimes a little embarrassed with his father's disciplined stances.

I'm hoping that the exchange with Santorum about "taking one for the team" is a lesson to Rand.

I'm sure many here have hopes for Rand in the future, so he needs to learn now that he needs to be more embarrassed about his stances rather than about his father's.

Boo

Leave Obamites making excuses for politicians

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Are you trying to say, LEAVE IT UP to the obamites to....
or you asking for me to LEAVE as in go away?

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

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His dad needs to sit him down

His dad needs to sit him down for a good talking-to.

"Sanctions against Iran" are actually restrictions on the liberties of US citizens. Read that again. Sanctions "against Iran" are actually restrictions on US citizens. The US decrees that we the people may not do business with Iranian people. Why? Because we and our Iranian counterparts have different overlords.

Who benefits from restraint of trade? Only politicians and tyrants. US politicians benefit from the show that they are "doing something." The Iranian tyrants gain a useful boogey man to rile up their subjects with and to make the tyrants appear to be necessary. Do the politicians and tyrants ever miss a meal because of sanctions? How absurd. The elderly and children might go hungry, but never the elite.

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Disappointing to hear this rationalization response.

By forcing someone into a corner, it is only a matter of time before they strike or fightback. Then to say: all right, we told you so, now we have to go to war.

The better question: The Iranians were forthcoming in allowing the IAEA to inspect their facilities, and they concluded along with our CIA that Iran is no where near to developing a nuclear weapon. Despite knowing this information, why did you vote for sanctions against Iran?

Or, "What would we do if a country placed sanctions against us?"

How could anyone avoid such a simple question.

Would we respond with war?

Senator Paul is correct.

War will nationalize people. It will rally people around their leaders. But he fails to recognize that sanctions do the exact same thing.

Rand Paul is but a shadow of Ron.

I mean - that not bad.

But its not as good as it could be either.

Apparently, the apple sometimes does fall far from the tree.

"By their fruits shall ye know them."

Rand has proven himself very quickly to be willing to throw his principle to the wind if he thinks it earns him brownie points with traitors and thugs.

He's nothing more than a neo-con in Ron Paul clothing.

If this is not an accurate assessment, then only HE can change that by his votes and actions. The first should be a measure introduced to expire those sanctions immediately. Even if it doesn't pass, he has to introduce it and fight for it.

We don't need another "we must do something moron" in the Senate. There are enough of those already there.

We need a "we must do the RIGHT thing" patriot in there.

I would not accuse him of

I would not accuse him of abandoning his principles. I think he simply does not understand.

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Then as I noted, he has to create an opportunity to right his

mistake.

If he does not, then either he hasn't learned what he did was wrong, or he did in fact knowingly compromise.

Either way, without a corrective action, he's effectively no better than the other 99.

I'm long tired of "marginally less bad" politicians.

We don't have any more time for that nonsense.

There is little breathing room for such mistakes.

Well Jive...

I hope that's it. But now he'd have to 'splain it to me how the son of Ron Paul didn't...or couldn't...understand that sanctions are an act of war, and as such, hold the need for a great deal of supporting circumstance to morally justify the evil that it entails.

I hold no love for Iran. I don't know any Iranians that I am aware of. The only time I can remember speaking to an Iranian was some really cute chick back in the early 80's that I met in a nightclub and who called herself "Persian". The "really cute chick" part is the only reason I remember she was from Iran as I was wondering what the rest of them looked like under their black suits...shallow, I know...but par for the course for a healthy single male in your mid-twenties.

What I do love is my country, and I cherish the life of all who would stand up in front of us and place their lives on the line on our behalf. I come from a long line of Army officers. My grandfather was on the design team for the Jeep, and the commander of the Quartermaster Corps in the Pacific during WWII and my father along with two of his brothers were all West Pointers...the bothers also Olympic Gold Medalists. One of those brothers, an athlete all his life, an incredible specimen of a man, just died of cancer related to Agent Orange exposure in the jungles of Vietnam.

When lies and deceit are enabled by "politics", and the lives of my brave countrymen are put at risk for the sake of "getting along" within the party...or for future political gains based on present deceit, or for profit...I will stand up and cry foul.

My disappointment with Rand is legion...you have no idea...I truly saw him as the future. Someone I could trust in when his father "just fades away".

Now he'll have to be a "Lesser Evil" vote.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

Yeah, I'm disappointed in Rand Paul too

But he's still much better than 99% of Senators.

As Ron Paul says, sanctions are an act of war.

Yes he was...

Now he is just like 99% of Senators.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?