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CBS NEWS: "Bloom Box" Powers Your Home - Free Energy Device - Made in uSA

"So this was going to produce oxygen so people could actually live on Mars?" she asked.

"Absolutely," Sridhar replied.

When NASA scrapped that Mars mission, Sridhar had an idea: he reversed his Mars machine. Instead of it making oxygen, he pumped oxygen in.

He invented a new kind of fuel cell, which is like a very skinny battery that always runs. Sridhar feeds oxygen to it on one side, and fuel on the other. The two combine within the cell to create a chemical reaction that produces electricity. There's no need for burning or combustion, and no need for power lines from an outside source.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-6221135.html

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Solar energy..

..is better and safer IMHO. You can build it from parts bought from ebay. If you can build a panel just about smaller than the size of a 4'x8' plywood, can generate up to 300W of electricity. Some come in rigid form while others come in flexible form. If you're good at soldering you have and advantage. You will need deep cycle battery/ies preferably in parallel connection, a power inverter, and a computer module that can be programmed.

On another note, to reduce power consumption in your home you can interrupt AC and water heater on/off cycles mechanically or electronically just like your lawn sprinkler system. I asked my electrician to install a HD mechanical timer between my water heater and main power. I saved a bundle in a first month offsetting the cost of the timer itself two times. If you have a CAC installed, you can also program it to shut down when outside temps reach 72 degrees and on when in the high 70's. OR you can turn it totally off when no one is home. It only takes minutes to lower the temp when you turn it on anyway.

I've made my own

and prefer a quality manufacturer's PV panel with a micro-inverter. i work in the industry too. www.powerproductionmanagement.com

Whenever anyone says "absolutely" about anything...

...I know they're lying.

Ron Paul on Energy

”Any source that truly is cheaper and cleaner, yet still reliable, will not need government help to develop or sell.”

Contrary to what anyone tells you there is no perpetual motion machine or "free" energy. Energy always costs something- either in the initial purchase of some machine or in the cost of the fuel to power it.

If fuel cells were as practical as the story says you would expect them to already be in many houses.

Because that fool company Google wants to blow its money on the system doesn't means its great and practical.

You could heat every house in the US if a duct could be connected to Washington DC....there's SO much hot air available.

Here I am to rain on the parade

As far as I know, Bloom has zero customers outside the state of California. The reason for that is the state subsidies are needed to make an economical business proposition. I wouldbn't bet my future on that business model. I doubt California can keep up subsidizing green energy, and many other states won't. In my opinion, the states shouldn't be involved at all. Let the free market work and energy prices will go down.

The Bloom fuel cell is expensive. It only works at extremely high temperatures. The high temperature necessitates contruction from expensive ceramics that can withstand the heat. Thermal expansion is also a real problem. When you cycle the device on and off, thermal stress will eventually cause cracks in the membrane. The device is also sensitive to certain impurities (particularly sulfur containing compounds) that are often found in natural gas. It costs more and doesn't last as long as a natural gas generator would.

We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

-C. S. Lewis

You would need roughly

476,933.3 acres producing 15,000 barrels each per year to meet the requirements for our current oil demands.

What would be neat is if each state produced it's own. Pretty doable if it's scalable to those needs.

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Good point

I have posted about the cyanobacteria before and find it very interesting. A GMO designed to produce fuel without fresh water or valuable farm land. I would think a desert area with axcess to sun and brackish water would be ideal. Scaled down to a small farm unit would work too.

I have been living off grid for 12 years

I have a hybrid Solar and Wind setup. Maintenance and conservation are the keys to success. It took awhile to figure out, but a balance of load,storage and recharge is crucial.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

ATruepatriot do you have links?

I'm rehabbing an older house and I am researching solar and alternative energy sources. (you know, while I have the place torn apart - why not?! right?)

Do you have some links to info that helped you put together your system? I'd really appreciate it.
Thank you in advance.
EntropyPressStAt

Absolutely I can give you a hand

No problem, I just got caught up for the day and have a long day ahead of me tomorrow. First though I need to know what size system you want to put together. This will determine all the factors involved with how many panels,storage and Etc. Now keep in mind that at some point,depending on the appliances you want to run it may actually be cheaper to just buy power especially if you have kids and central heat and air. A full blown system,Big enough to run Central heat and air,even if you put it together yourself can cost 20,000 dollars or more,20,000 dollars can pay for many years of grid power. So at that point you may want to consider if you will get this investment back if you decide to sell the house someday. With today's market you may not. Long term it might pay for it's self if you are going to live there for quite awhile. A smaller system is very cost efficient but it takes a change in lifestyle for sure!,lol. But in the mean time go ahead and continue to fix the house up as normal because the power system will be all external and use the normal power system of your house with no internal changes to be made except maybe going to gas appliances if you don't already have them,Economizing your power load is the first step. I will contact you if you don't mind and explain all this in more depth. I have put together both large and small systems and both are dictated by your normal power usage and appliances. There are a lot of variables to figure out before even looking for the right setup or links.I will drop you a line in the morning if that is OK? Thank you for your patience,Sorry for the late reply.

Edit: It appears you have your contacts turned off in your account, so If you like please contact me through the DP if you are still interested in some help with this project.I am off to work right now and will get back to you ASAP.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

For anyone that might want a small scale

do-it-at-home power supply.. this may be it.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2006/lesotho.html

or this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz_Kgkzfaxk (very simple crank mod)

or this even.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvAL7ty53M

All very doable depending on how much power you need.

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E-Cat is better

Check it out! for sale soon~
http://pesn.com/2012/02/16/9602036_E-Cat_Weekly_February16/

The Pods have spoken

There

are far more promising technologies being worked on such as...

Blacklight
PlasmaERG
E-Cat
Defkalion

just to name a few. Cheap energy has been deliberately kept from us for a VERY VERY long time. The genie though has been let out of the bottle by Internet and the demand for it and it can not be put back in.

The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare

I think Thorium with molten salt reactors is another

It solves all most all of the problems with nuclear energy.

If you're not familiar with it and have 2 hours available then check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9M__yYbsZ4

It's Blacklightpower

for those who'd like to look it up.

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It isn't free energy. It's a

It isn't free energy. It's a fuel cell, and requires a source of energy as input, such as natural gas. It might be an important advance in fuel cell technology, but free energy it isn't.

a bit misleading

What it's referring to here is the free energy of the chemical reaction, Gibb's Free Energy, a concept of thermodynamics.

Not free as in cost but free as in energy released.

http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch21/gi...

It requires no power lines from an outside source because the reaction is spontaneous, meaning it requires no outside source of energy to get the reaction going.

In that sense the gasoline

In that sense the gasoline you buy is "free energy" -- even at $6 a gallon.

The sense I was referring to was not cost but

thermodynamics. Gasoline isn't free but gasoline does have a positive gibbs energy value at standard conditions when referring to combustion with oxygen, meaning energy is required to get the reaction going. This is why we have spark plugs in our cars.

Why

Why vote this down? Its a purely factual statement!

It sounds interesting

but why do all of the test models use petroleum based fuels. I thought he had some black and green ink?

Regardless, there is no question that technology is moving quick enough past fossil fuels that the corporate control systems will break down, just like they are with the internet. That is the beauty of competition. Google may be rich enough to get involved in the control system, but they certainly aren't going to let Comcast pass SOPA if they can help it.

1st they said

the utility co. would like it.. then they said it would be in everyones basement... ? I got confused....

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Still

consumes and binds oxygen at a faster rate than produced by the environemnt; the real "gas" problem that is never mentioned in internal combustion engines. Creates O2 depletion zones when used in high density; causes changes and abrupt corrections in environment; ie weather. Also introduced in using NG as a reactant, meaning it works with/for the grid network and was likely funded by it. It will be much more expensive that a grid bill. Old technology.

How is this off the grid

when the utility companies will be installing and selling the power to customer? If solar is not the fuel used; natural gas is, and the electric co. remains the supplier?

My definition of "off the grid" means: no utility provider (bill) period.

Glad it's cleaner but, sure didn't sound to be a money saver for the average persons.

He meant the electricity

He meant the electricity grid, which saps a large amount of energy just through transmission.

Working on a fascinating hybrid system right now in Ontario

Big meeting on wednesday...combines solar,wind and hydroelectric with batteries for storage. I'm excited...will let the DP know what happens.

Idea is to give small communities, campgrounds, marinas, trailer parks, hospitals, nursing homes, golf courses, etc the ability to GET OFF THE GRID!!

Oh.....and farms,too.

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

propose

that they look at Schauberger's turbine designs and principles; they are correct. Then one need not bother with wind and solar. That would be fascinating.

missing science: implosion mechanics

Initiate - radially
concentrate - axially (generation) creates pressure loss and x2 gains

current science: explosion mechanics

Initiate - axially
Expand - radially (creates pressure friction gain and x2 losses)

In otherwords, oragnize material to be moved in the direction it is moving by balancing explosion implosion mechanics; favoring implosion, so material matter and energy flow into system. The system will self regulate by "breathing" along its whole axis. It is controlled cavitation, by design. Its how nature grows things.

sure didn't sound to be a money saver for the average persons.

and that's why it's on CBS... the technology that really gets the average person off the grid would never get MSM coverage.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
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Well it's on the lame stream news

So it must have cleared somebody's okay. Unsubstantiated rumors have been flying around about the end of energy suppression being connected to the end of the present global financial system.