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RON PAUL has the MOST 2nd place finishes to DATE! More than any other candidate

For all of you detractors on the Paul and all the detractors on the MSM.

Paul has the most second place finishes to date, and as the primaries move on, Paul is getting stronger.

So Far Paul has 9 second place finishes. More than likely we have gotten the majority of delegates in these states: NH, MN, WA, VA, VT, ND, Maine, Idaho, and Alaska.

Paul has four - 3rd place finishes, more than likely the most delegates in 2 of those states:
IA, NV, MO (no caucus yet) and MA (caucus still to come).

This is like a NASCAR championship, let's just keep getting delegates.

A win will come.

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Looking to the future

Imagine this:

The Houston Chronicle- January 21, 2013

The United States Makes History- Again! And in more ways than one!

Texas once again sends one of it's own to the White House. President Doctor Ron Paul, formerly twelve-term Congressman Paul, beat all odds and proved he could do the impossible, despite heavy resistance from the major media outlets. For the first time in US history, a man is elected as the President of the United States without ever winning a single state in the primaries.

Many strong second place finishes and an extremely dedicated mass of volunteers and followers all over the nation put a strategy in place that lead to Paul's overcoming all the odds and handed him the victory. It was a matter of receiving the most delegates, which he did handily. The fact that the GOP began to embrace Paul's policies at the last minute in an effort not to permanently alienate the millions of Paul supporters helped seal the deal.

One-time presumed frontrunner, Mitt Romney was taken totally off guard when Ron Paul was named the republican nominee. No matter how much money and organization Mr. Romney had, Dr. Paul had just a little bit better organization. And though not as much money, Paul had a whole lot more truly dedicated supporters; many of whom found very innovative ways to spread Ron Paul's message across the country.

History was also made yesterday when President-elect Ron Paul became the oldest man ever to be inaugerated, at 77 years old, as President of the United States.

God, wouldn't this story be wonderful!
Let's make it happen, people.

Looking to the Future

Imagine this:

The Houston Chronicle- January 21, 2013

The United States Makes History- Again! And in more ways than one!

Texas once again sends one of it's own to the White House. President Doctor Ron Paul, formerly twelve-term Congressman Paul, beat all odds and proved he could do the impossible, despite heavy resistance from the major media outlets. For the first time in US history, a man is elected as the President of the United States without ever winning a single state in the primaries.

Many strong second place finishes and an extremely dedicated mass of volunteers and followers all over the nation put a strategy in place that lead to Paul's overcoming all the odds and handed him the victory. It was a matter of receiving the most delegates, which he did handily. The fact that the GOP began to embrace Paul's policies at the last minute in an effort not to permanently alienate the millions of Paul supporters helped seal the deal.

One-time presumed frontrunner, Mitt Romney was taken totally off guard when Ron Paul was named the republican nominee. No matter how much money and organization Mr. Romney had, Dr. Paul had just a little bit better organization. And though not as much money, Paul had a whole lot more truly dedicated supporters; many of whom found very innovative ways to spread Ron Paul's message across the country.

History was also made yesterday when President-elect Ron Paul became the oldest man ever to be inaugerated, at 77 years of age, as President of the United States.

God, wouldn't this story be wonderful!
Let's make it happen, people.

2nds are good, but 1sts are better

Just counting 2nds is not very useful. What's useful is to count 1sts plus seconds.

This is first + seconds in terms of popular vote counts:

Mitt: 14 + 7 = 21
Rick: 7 + 7 = 14
Paul: 0 + 7 = 7
Newt: 2 + 2 = 4


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Who has the most thirds?

Are Romney and Santorum tied for thirds since Newt must have the most fourths?

hthomas

Not to burst anyone's bubble

But, Ron Paul will get no delegates from Idaho and only the number proportional to his finish in ND, Alaska and Nevada. Not all caucus states do things the way Iowa and Maine do.

Delegates are free to vote as

Delegates are free to vote as they wish after round 1. Romney will not clinch this in one round of voting.

Freedom in our lifetime! - fiol.us

Dirt is going on in the GOP and RNC. I've seen it in WA State.

But 2nd place finishes are great too.

I think we're playing for the wildcard slot.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

3rd in Alaska.

Should have been 1st. (He was first in the interior (Fairbanks)).

Build this Campaign UP - It's Time to Break Out

It's time to break out Ron Paul - forward your best ideas to his staff. Share at Ron Paul meetings in your area with those you trust. Second place isn't good enough. The message has to get bold. Break out for Dr Paul!

Take a look at some ideas here

http://www.dailypaul.com/219116/start-meet-up-groups-in-your...

We are winning delegates, but why would Doug Mead tell them everytime he got on the MSM our plan. Was he trying to get people to know that we were going to count, or was he letting them know our plan. Are Santorum folks staying and caucusing?

Yes, they will combine and that is why Ron Paul needs double the delegates coming from each county. So, if your county allows 50 to go to the state, then make sure that Ron Paul has 26 of those 50.

After last night he's no

After last night he's no longer in 2nd in delegates, of course we don't know for sure but they've figured out our game.

Do you really think mainstream candidates won't gather together and outvote Ron Paul delegates? especially if Romney becomes the obvious nominee...

I don't get why we just assume the county and state conventions won't have a plan for dealing with Paul delegates, especially since we've had to expose our strategy to offset the disappointing straw poll results.

Slow and steady wins the race

If we give up hope now there is no chance for Dr. Paul to get the nomination. He will not win it out right and our only chance is an open convention as others have said. We need to continue getting Ron Paul delegates into Tampa. We will win most of the delegates from the caucus states now we just need to get Paul supporters into delegate seats in primary states so that they can vote for Paul after the first round. That article about Lincoln is very encouraging. I didn't know Lincoln got the nomination from an open convention. If Honest Abe can do it then so can Honest Ron.

Delegates are the name of the game.

Buy your tickets and book a room for the convention in Tampa. Make Dr. Ron Paul proud and educate those who are asleep.
grant

YES- BUT

unlike Nascar where public opinion does not make the car perform better or worse(clearly since Kyle Bush still wins) - public opinion does make a campaign better and more successful.
We need public opinion change. Some way some how.

The big bad wolf, the hare,

The big bad wolf, the hare, the confederate army, and the Philadelphia Eagles came in second a whole bunch of times too.

The second mouse gets the cheese

:)

The first mouse gets the cheese...

...the second mouse gets the cat.

true

but in a brokered convention Second could mean first.

In a brokered convention it

In a brokered convention it means Romney might lose the nomination to Jeb Bush.

Can our Ron Paul delegates Survive their State Conventions?

Others may count those states as “wins”, but winning is relative. Who is getting their delegates in? We are.

Now the questions become, can our Ron Paul delegates
Survive the State Conventions and make it to the big one in Tampa?

That will be the REAL test.

Treg

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If you don't think the

If you don't think the mainstream has a plan to band together and stop our delegates from getting to Tampa you're living in a dream world. There is no road forward in the GOP.

I don't even want to begin to imagine what it's like in the mind of someone who could lie to themselves enough to actually convince themselves that the GOP would let Ron win an open convention... seriously come on people

The question is

will there be enough of the other candidates supporters to get delegate positions and do they show up at the various conventions.

Interesting Read...

Lincoln's Strategy Succeeded at the 1860 Republican Convention in Chicago

"The Republican Party held its 1860 convention later that May in Chicago..."

"At the convention, the favorite for the nomination was William Seward, a senator from New York. Seward was ardently anti-slavery, and had a higher national profile than Lincoln.

The political supporters Lincoln dispatched to the Chicago convention in May had a strategy: they assumed that if Seward could not win the nomination on the first ballot, Lincoln might gain votes on later ballots. The strategy was based on the notion that Lincoln had not offended any particular faction of the party, as some other candidates had, therefore people could come together around his candidacy.

The Lincoln plan worked. On the first ballot Seward did not have enough votes for a majority, and on the second ballot Lincoln gained a number of votes but there was still no winner. On the third ballot of the convention, Lincoln won the nomination..."

http://history1800s.about.com/od/presidentialcampaigns/a/186...

sure, but the Republican

sure, but the Republican party wasn't much of a NATIONAL party then. An overwhelming majority of southerners were Democrat, and therefore weren't a deciding factor in Lincoln's nomination.

on a side note, i wish he had been defeated by seward, who would've been far likelier to negotiate with the south, rather than invade them and tear them apart

Idaho and Alaska?

Take those off the list. He took 3rd in both. You probably went to sleep last night and saw him in strong 2nd, like I did, but upon waking...he took 3rd!

Leaving Idaho on

There is a discrepancy in the last county to send in votes. Paul was up statewide by 200+ votes, the final numbers Santorum won that county by was only 178.

They took 3rd ballot vs final ballot numbers, Paul should be ahead.

I stayed up till 3am, and posted the complete problem.

See post below

http://www.dailypaul.com/218945/idaho-should-still-be-in-2nd...

What about 1st???

Nobody cares about 2nd place.

Also you assumed way to early. AK and ID are 3rd place!!!

Amerika is blind. I am moving

see above

also I have a question mark for Alaska, but leaving Idaho on, after recount I can confidently say Paul will squeak by with second.

watch this video...

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2012/03/06/super-f...

I think they are getting a little ahead of themselves showing how many delegates Romney will have, but of course this is just another propaganda piece.

still interesting to look at though.

Virginia Tally; and the true war.

I don't know about the other states, but Paul's only getting 3 delegates from VA... and if you are counting on all of those delegates breaking for Paul in round two, I'm not sure why they would if we can't even win the caucuses.

The fact of the matter is, we will definately be noticed. But we will not gain political power through this process. What we will gain, is a presence on the national stage to educate the citizenry and move the discussion back to a more fundamental one; what is liberty and what does it mean to be free? By educating and making people aware of the cause, we push their mind in new directions. We really -wont- get delegates if we can't even win a caucus, people.

But we can win the moral war, the war of ideas, and that is the true battle we fight and the true game we play. It only seems to those still trapped in the same old ways and means that got us into this mess as if we are playing the "game of thrones". We are a -force- in that game, but we are not playing it, are not a part of it, are not operating by the same rules; so neither can we loose by the same rules... in fact, our victory, being one of spreading ideas, is as inevitable as our political rejection by the powers that be in this country...