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Young people stayed home-the reason Paul lost on Super Tuesday

There is an article on US News I thought was very insightful in explaining why Ron Paul lost in Super Tuesday. In a nutshell, young people gave up on Ron Paul, and sat on their butt at home on Super Tuesday. In earlier states, young people are more energized, after a string of no win, young people gave up on Ron Paul.

"A study released Wednesday shows in five Super Tuesday states, Ron Paul attracted no more of the youth support than Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney."

We have no one but ourselves to blame. A lot of people are right unfortunately that young people show up on rallies but simply did not go to vote. On the other hand, Romney's and Santorum's old supporters went and casted their votes. Are they right that young people are unreliable?

Ron Paul lost because his young supporters that Ron Paul fought so hard for failed him. Shame.



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I have a feeling some aren't paying attention to the rules

for example i'm sure some didn't bother to pay attention whether each states caucus was closed or open or a combination, because i'm sure the ones ron paul does poor in is ones where independents aren't allowed, it's funny how the Republican party will still do Republican only caucuses and primaries because the number of independents in America are rising at a fast rate.

I don't know who you really support,

but this is crap coming from someone who is less than a day old, here on the DP.

BMWJIM's picture

Besides the MSM and YAHOO especially, please

give absolute proof. Without absolute proof it is a LIE!!

This is a divide and conquer momenent. It is what I would do if I was leading the charge. We all must rebut this type of crap. We must support the young'uns and they must support us. Otherwise we ALL lose.

Now quit posting this crap, and quit giving clicks to the BS.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

If you claim to support Ron

If you claim to support Ron Paul but don't vote for him in a primary, then you weren't a supporter to begin with--plain and simple.

exit Polls are still showing Paul get large margins of youth and

independents.

Just look at virginia, Paul crushed Mitt with Indies and youth vote, but I agree that we could do sooo much better if the under 30 crowd would show up when they say they are.

C'mon slackers

Why is the campaign paying

any attention to people in my generation? 20-30 year-olds don't win Republican primaries - 50-80 year-olds do.

BMWJIM's picture

The campaign is doing the right thing.

We are supposed to be mature and smart enough to see the right from the wrong. As a older American we should not need a Ron Paul to motivate us to vote for Truth and the Constitution. We should have been supporting Ron Paul all along.

I admit I came late to the party. Just 5+ years ago. What I must ask is at 3+ weeks, Where The F were you?

You have no right to complain about the young people that are trying to right the ship WE started sinking.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Well, thank you for the profanity.

But, addressing your point, I think it's quite obvious by the voting patterns of people your age that they do need to hear Ron Paul speak, preferably in a setting where they can ask him questions that concern them about him so he could answer them directly without media and talk radio spin. Yes, older voters should be smart enough and mature enough to see right from wrong. Maybe if they had more opportunities to see and meet Ron Paul in person like they do the other candidates, they might start seeing the right more clearly.

we have now these flyers geared towards 50+

Its on US to inform the people.
If the young people dont show up to vote they might use their feet to inform the 50+ generation with these flyers:


Once people know what the Dr. stands for without the media spinning his message he wins their minds and hearts!

If every Paul supporter prints some hundred and puts them in their neighbourhood then we multiply our chances to win the nomination!

These flyers are all free to print:
http://www.mediafire.com/?s4snpbpsts5b3 <- all versions that are available.
- Including flyers geared towards 50+ generation.(If you know a place or neighbourhood with retirees where they might have an impact)

http://www.dailypaul.com/218640/ron-paul-promotional-flyer-f...
please share links.

Everyone can print them and distribute them everywhere to inform the masses. Mailboxes, windshields, public spaces, voting places, delegate meetings...
+ dont forget to register as a delegate in your state.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/delegate/

This was NOT the case in Washington State.

I met many young people at the RP Campaign office and at Dr. Paul's 2 appearances on Mar 3rd and 4th.

The young people were great and basically carried Ron Paul's whole campaign here.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Last thing I'm going to believe

Is anything from MSM about how unlectable RonPaul is or how only pot-head young people vote for him.

We're going around, we're spreading the words, and not only the young people understand him but the old too!

Election is rigged, but I often tell ppl that if we can spread the message in tens of millions, then they won't be able to silence us anymore! The idea lives and that's what's important, and "young people" as well as "old people" who could understand would too!

"Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed."~Mahatma Gandhi
Quick Humorous Satire course on Ron Paul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_65316&...

Ron Paul should have focused

Ron Paul should have focused on more mature and reliable voters and not the youth

YOU should have focused on them..afterwards everyone is wiser!

the problem is the mature voters are all sleeping behind their mass media Tv cnnfoxnbsmabcblbalbla!!


Once people know what the Dr. stands for without the media spinning his message he wins their minds and hearts!

We need to inform the sleeping masses that rely solely on the mass media that blacks out Ron Paul or spins his message.
Espacially the 50+ generation, that is watching FOXCNN all day, is hurting us at the polls. We also have flyers geared for them!
Lets get these flyers out in masses! Its now on US to educate and inform!
If every Paul supporter prints some hundred and puts them in their neighbourhood then we multiply our chances to win the nomination!

These flyers are all free to print:
http://www.mediafire.com/?s4snpbpsts5b3 <- all versions that are available.
- Including flyers geared towards 50+ generation.(If you know a place or neighbourhood with retirees where they might have an impact)

http://www.dailypaul.com/218640/ron-paul-promotional-flyer-f...
please share links.

Everyone can print them and distribute them everywhere to inform the masses. Mailboxes, windshields, public spaces, voting places, delegate meetings...
+ dont forget to register as a delegate in your state.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/delegate/

I watched

the demographic breakdown on super Tuesday. Whether the reporting was true or not, it appears the older crowd did vote for RP over that reported for under 45.

Not to lay blame, because I was young once and in the 60's, but the noisy wheel gets the oil. We have had great support from the younger ones and by these efforts, the older group is now attending the rallies as much as the younger ones.

There are many factors and it doesn't belong to just any group. We know the vote reporting isn't accurate but the youth vote threatens obama more than anything. So to show, rightfully or not, the youth is not voting RP, is a big deal.

So might I suggeston voting day the young do relays. Part cover the polling for the morning hours, part mid hours, and some for the later hours. Video and post everywhere. Campuses, YT, MAKE a lot of NOISE. (peacefully of course)

Specifically target the areas obama is afraid of (if he makes it on the ballots). Senior centers. My neice and I talk about this all the time. I want her to take care of me at home, not be stuffed away at a nursing home--less expensive and in line with RP.

Youth centers. The ones that are organized for fund raising. Some of these are excellent and appreciate peer group speeches.

Neighborhood meetups. Give a speech to any groups you can get in.

Make your words count. Instead of voter fraud, use misrepresentation or something.

Hammer the health issues. Most of the people I talk to don't like all the vaccines nor the choice to use healthy foods. Don't bring Monsanto in it but hammer the use of flouride, or non flouride use in toothpaste.

In short, just bring it home to the issues people are interested in.

Maybe not use liberty (every one thinks they have it now) but CHOICE to choose.

We need the younger ones to do this and even some college classes will give credit for speeches off campus.

And, I would add, college kids come off pompus to those that are average trade people. Ok, so I was one too. The fact is, no car, no tractor, no TV gets fixed without these tradesmen, who by the way can make their own jobs.

Just my two cents. Go young people!!!!

mickey45

Politics is a game of "sales".

You have to sell the product. How do you think Santorum can win anything with his wishy washy, government over control attitude he carries as a message? He "sells" it. To sell something, you have to ask someone to "buy". Ron Paul has the legitimate message of honest government, and he stays on message, but his campaign fails to do the important thing, they don't ask anyone to "buy". We can believe the message, and whole heartedly support it, but without the "close" to the sale (and that would be getting off your butt and voting) then the results will be disappointing. It's not enought to just like what you're hearing, you've got to be energized enough to vote. I've never heard Ron Paul "ask" the audience to "VOTE FOR ME-PRETTY PLEASE".

alan laney

One thing that has struck me

One thing that has struck me as a possibility is: If a student is attending college in one State but they are not from that States, doesn't that make them bound to vote absentee in the State of their birth? Because, as far as I'm aware of, just because you go to College in a particular State you are not a legal resident of said State.

So, if their truly is a problem with college students not voting, could it be because they are not filling out the absentee ballots and getting them to their resident States before the deadline for absentee ballots?

The Old Get Richer, the Young Get Poorer

• From 1984 to 2009, the median net worth of older households rose 42%. For younger households, it declined by 68%.

• The gap in wealth between older and younger households widened over time. In 1984, the median net worth of older households was $108,000 higher than that of younger households. But by 2009, the median net worth of older households was $166,832 higher than that of younger households, the “largest (gap) in the 25 years that the government has been collecting this data.” (All figures are expressed in 2010 dollars.)

• In younger households, median adjusted annual income rose 27%, from $38,555 in 1967 to $49,145 in 2010. (Again, the figures are in 2010 dollars.) At the same time, income for older households rose 109%, from $20,804 to $43,401.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-old-get-richer--the-young-...

Old folks show up to vote - not a coincidence, IMHO.

As H.L. Mencken opined, "Every election is a sort of advance auction of stolen goods.".

Pure propaganda sprinkled with BS

I AGREE! We all know why RP has not won a state yet, and it has nothing to do with the young people not showing up. We need to continue to support RP and fight for delegates. This election is far too important to lose to the establishment.

Pure propaganda sprinkled with BS

I AGREE! We all know why RP has not won a state yet, and it has nothing to do with the young people not showing up. We need to continue to support RP and fight for delegates. This election is far too important to lose to the establishment.

pure propaganda sprinkled

pure propaganda sprinkled with BS..

No good deed goes unpunished.

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In Liberty

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The Ron Paul Media Cycle"Ron

The Ron Paul Media Cycle

"Ron Paul is ______ ." Take your pick, a) racist b) unelectable, c)liberal d) dangerous e)anti semetic f) working w/ romney.

"Ron Paul is expected to win _______." Take your pick. a)Iowa b)Maine c)Alaska d)North Dakota.

"Ron Paul loses _________." Take your pick. a)Christian vote b)youth vote c)45-60 demographic.

It can't all be blamed on one thing.

There are a variety of issues involved.

However, anybody not voting isn't going to help any.
And that could have happened with young people, and also older people.

The young people really have no excuse though, because they are the ones who are going to be under the jack-boot. The old people are on their last legs, and won't get the brunt of it.
So, the young people had BETTER be voting and working their asses off, because if they don't, they are going to pay dearly for that laziness, for their entire lives.

US News & World Report is Establishment

The mass media in all countries are owned by a small number of corporations with interlocking directorships and shared executives with the banking and corporate cartels who essentially run the world. This is the Eatablishement.

The mass media wish to characterise Ron Paul as simply a teacher or a messenger rather than a politician running for the highest office in the land. This means they can dismiss him by subtly suggesting to their viewers/readers that he really doesn't WANT to win. Who is going to vote for someone who doesn't care if he loses just so long as his message gets out there? This is a very cunning way to turn people off researching Ron Paul and it fits in with their demonstrated agenda to ignore, ridicule and fight him.

The wall-to-wall propaganda is incessant and ubiquitous so that even the elect might be deceived. The truth is somewhat simpler as Ron Paul himself has pointed out as often as he can and even against counter suggestions by interviewers who restate his answers to suit their own messaging.

There IS an intellectual revolution happening, as people wake up to the way the world really works and not the way they have been hypnotised into believing it works by the mass media and the education systems that have been permeated by the fabricated world view of the establishment. This is largely due to the increasing influence of the Internet which is used disproportionately by the younger demographic (under 45). This is why more than 50% of this demographic supports Dr. Paul and why this number continues to grow.

The influence of this revolution on people's actions at this point in time can only be visibly and meaningfully demonstrated by the results of the campaign for the Republican Presidential nomination. As a consequence there is a concerted effort by the mass media to play down the significance of Internet polling which is widely in Dr. Paul's favour and at the same time to suppress by fair means or foul, usually the latter, the votes for Dr. Paul in the Republican primaries and caucuses. Nevertheless he continues to rack up delegates and in the end it will be the votes of the delegates to the National Convention in Tampa in the week of August 27, 2012 that matter.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I can only speak for myself

I'm 25 from VA and I voted that morning, around 9:30. I printed off the "candidate fact sheets" and put them on people's cars in the parking lot at the local grocery store. I laid some more inside where the ads were. I got 4 people at work to vote for him and one of them got her son, a veteran, to vote for him as well. I know I did everything I could, including vote. But, like I said, I can only speak for myself.

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Oh yeah, blame the young people

Look out Gen Y, they're throwing you under the bus, just like they did with my generation:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/the-laziest-gen...

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Only one of my friends is going to vote

All the rest love Ron Paul, but they say it's all rigged and why bother voting. "The man" won't let it happen.

What did you tell them?

The mass media want to convince people that this is a horse race but it is a push cart race. The candidate that wins will have more people pushing his cart. In other words it is not a spectator sport it is a participant sport. If you want your guy to win you have to PUSH.

Did you tell them that if they didn't vote then whatever happens in the world will be as a result of their inaction?

If they didn't have anyone to vote for that is fine, to abstain is a vote, but when someone of Ron Paul's calibre is on the ballot why would they abstain?

In a primary or caucus one vote counts for far more than in a general election.

Did you vote yourself? Who did you vote for?

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Yes, I've talked to them till I am blue in the face

In Texas you can get a voter's registration application at the grocery store. I picked some up and made my 4 closest friends register. They didn't want to, but they did it to humor me. We don't vote till May 29. My plan is on Monday night have them over to my house and feed them beer and then they will have to spend the night. On Tuesday morning I wake them and tell them it's time to get up and go vote. I will have their car keys and won't give them back till they vote. They will fall in...it's not like I will be forcing them to vote for a certain person!