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Panetta States To Congress That He Gets His Authority From International Powers!

On mutliple websites from Briebart, Drudge, and Alex Jones, the Obama administration is seeking damage control. This is unbelievable information.

http://youtu.be/5zNwOeyuG84

More info at Breitbart

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Susie 4 Liberty's picture

Not to worry

ANY of the GOP Candidates would reverse such a course...as in ABO - anybody but obama.

NOT!!! Can you even IMAGINE ANY of the other Candidates touching this with a ten foot pole?! Seriously... I felt more than 'strongly', when Congress 'let' the UN order us into the Libyan "Humanitarian Intervention", that our Sovereignty was gone - if we could not RECLAIM AMERICA! And everything written on my 'shirt'!

Congress 'may' have awakened - somewhat - a few of them - and we need to do all that we can to support Dr. Paul's statements re this TAKEOVER and what Congress is proposing. And REV up our fight for RP. Period

Susie 4 Liberty

Panetta basically told him

to F off. The entire obama administration is arrogant as hell!

Added Cause for Concern

This is slightly off topic, but I think will be of interest. Did you know that our national parks are already under control of the UN? And foreign troops have been trained at Ft. Polk in La? Please see this article even though it is from a few years back. The author is Ex-Air Force Intelligence, and someone who has recommended people vote for Dr. Paul for a long time.

http://www.texemarrs.com/061997/national_parks_belong_to_un.htm

Fed-Up

Susie 4 Liberty's picture

I've seen the signs posted at our Natl Parks...

On infowars - within the past 2-3 months. Also reported is that they are in Austin, Tx at the entry sites into our walking trails along the Barton Creek Wilderness Preserve.

Agenda 21 is NOT a rumor. Neither is NAFTA nor the NAU...

Susie 4 Liberty

Panetta should be arrested

Panetta should be arrested immediately, and all who are facilitating this coup. That is what it is. It is a coup by the military industrial complex, and their cohorts in media and the corporations who contract with them.

Is this a job for the FBI? Or the military provost marshall's office?

They are using our kids and grandkids as cannon fodder, making us pay for it, and expecting us to take it up the arse. It's time to remove them.

RON PAUL 2012 * Restore America * Bring The Troops Home
http://www.texasuncensored.blogspot.com

US/Israel hypocrisy exposed

http://andrewgavinmarshall.com/2012/03/06/economic-warfare-a...

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

WOW

Just Wow

Senator Peter Schiff 2016

Unfuckingbelievable!

Panetta...a bold face traitor! I call for his immediate arrest and "severe" punishment! These men know their is a constitution but, are deliberately leaving it out of their murderous, warmongering agendas. Our do nothing, Israeli first, superfluous congress may as well stay home and quit drawing on the largess from poor Americans. Useless traitors all! Sheeple...you will soon get what you deserve.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey

First, I agree with your

First, I agree with your assessment and your outrage.

But, please, THEIR is a pronoun denoting ownership. 'There' denotes place as in 'over there'.
It's hard to come off as educated if you don't know the difference.

RON PAUL 2012 * Restore America * Bring The Troops Home
http://www.texasuncensored.blogspot.com

why?

why must it always be the public's burden to call their congressman? either the law was broken or it wasnt. if so proceed. how am I supposed to influence my israel groveling state representative to do what's right?

Debbie's picture

Tell your critters to impeach and cut funding immediately!!

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Debbie

Does this judicially qualify as Treason?

That is exactly what I heard from their statements and intent. A lot of people are hopping here and shouting "Treason!" which I'm inclined to agree with but I'm not schooled in that area. Does anyone have definitions of treason with links to support and/or are qualified to know whether these statements fall within those definitions?

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

Treason definitions vary by nation. Vary in time & application.

England, United States, then Japan.

Treason: this crime is of betraying a nation or a sovereign by acts considered dangerous to security. In English law, treason includes the levying of war against the government and the giving of aid and comfort to the monarch's enemies. It is also treason to violate the monarch's consort, eldest unmarried daughter, or heir's wife.

In the United States, treason was defined restrictively by the framers of the Constitution. History had taught them that men in power might falsely or loosely charge treason against their opponents; therefore, they denied Congress the authority to enlarge or reshape the offense. Treason against the United States “shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”

Japanese law of treason places special emphasis on acts designed to frustrate the country's alliances with other powers. This is mainly a consequence of Japan's renunciation of war after World War II. A Japanese citizen may thus be punished for advocating war against another nation. See also sedition.

Copyright © 2009 Encyclopedia Britannica, Inc.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

If I understand you Mark

then rising up against a tyrannical government which is on one hand encouraged (by the inclusion of the 2nd Amendment) is als an act of treason. Takes a huge pair to run with that ball say what you will about effeminately dressed rebels of the 1700´s.

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

Incredible

I cannot understand why the MSM is not even mentioning this. Can you say, "bloodless coup d'etat"?

Blood to be spilled.

Less the bloodless.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I just sent this video along

I just sent this video along with a little copy and paste of what the constitution says about declaring war to EVERYONE ON MY LIST.

Treaties, agreement, protocol, covenant, convention

Ignorance is bliss. Treaties made with other countries are part of our law. The real question should be: Are treaties that give up our national sovereignty valid under the Constitution? The UN, NATO,WTO,NAFTA,GATA and many other Treaties surrender our sovereignty and compromise the intent of the Constitution. Peace treaties should be the only treaties undertaken. The government had and has no qualms about breaking the Native American Treaties so why not all the above? This is the question Sessions and Penella should be talking about. Getting us out of these foreign entangling alliances.

Dear BillGreenJeans,

Are treaties that give up our national sovereignty valid under the Constitution? The UN, NATO,WTO,NAFTA,GATA and many other Treaties surrender our sovereignty and compromise the intent of the Constitution. - BillGreenJeans, 2012

    No! Not under our US Constitution. Not over. Not in between. Ain't valid at all.

"In order to form a more perfect Union," we need do none of the above. No UN, NATO, WTO, NAFTA, nor GATA.... No World Bank. No Immaculate Money Fountain (IMF).

Things should be made as simple as possible. No more so.

Regards,

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Breathtakingly frightening!

Breathtakingly frightening! This guy will do well in an authoritarian regime. His brazen disregard for the rule of law will go unchecked by the cowardly parasites in Congress. Maybe Hannity will work this clip into his show after his hard hitting exposé on Obama's college protest footage. [holding breath]

Where's John Randolph of Roanoke

when you need him?

John Randolph, the great Virginian, acerbic and half-mad yet brilliant, had this to say about the John Quincy Adams administration which aptly applies here:

"It is my duty to leave nothing undone that I may lawfully do, to pull down this Administration...They who, from indifference, or with their eyes open, persist in hugging the traitor to their bosom, deserve to be insulted with different messages than this; they deserve to be slaves, with no other music to soothe them but the clank of the chains which they have put on themselves and given to their offspring."

malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

I am an aristocrat. I love liberty; I hate equality. - John Randolph of Roanoke

Let me sort this out

..The guy appearing before Congress gets to call the shots?
WHERE ARE THE REAL MEN of TODAY?!!!?
Sessions, and all the other Congressional members had better grow a pair...or GET OUT!
If that was me I'd berate him publicly to no end for his(Panetta's) statements that amount to treasonous activity.
Funny how Congress, and the "authorities" can browbeat good men and women publicly in hearings...but are meek as a lamb when it really counts!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Whats the problem with

Whats the problem with obeying the law? If our security was truly at stake then it shouldnt be a problem to get congressional approval.

Absolutely! I think the

Absolutely! I think the Congress doesn't want to be held accountable for a vote.

Btw, it's fine with me if someone recreates this post everyday. These comments should be addressed by the Congress and the President before we let it go.

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin

Oops

He slipped up and told the truth. Well, maybe that will wake a few sheeple up. We can see the ripples now.

Astounding

Years from now, when things inevitably get worse and our foreign intervention becomes a great deal more dangerous, we can look back on this interview and blame ourselves.

"Military men are “dumb, stupid animals to be used” as pawns for foreign policy."
-Henry Kissinger

F*ck Henry Kissenger & Leon Panetta. I never liked the guy.

The fire rises.

so

they can use our military personnel as mercenaries for their international overlords ? did i hear that correctly ?
does this count as treason ?

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Dr.Ron Paul's 2002 Predictions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

Depends on the enforcement of national Constitutional law.

England, USA, & Japan defer on the definition of Treason.

Posted by me here on this thread moments ago:
http://www.dailypaul.com/219407/panetta-states-to-congress-t...

Each Nation may define treason unto itself. Each nation may identify its very own enemy.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

If the action is to defend the United States, the only

permission needed or even acceptable is a Declaration of War issued by the Congress.

If the action is NOT to defend the United States, as Mr. Panetta seems to have indirectly indicated (as an alternative to a defensive operation) then HE HAS NOT THE AUTHORITY TO CARRY IT OUT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

There can be NO "legal basis" issued by ANYONE for a non-defensive military action. Period.

Such an action is an "illegal aggressive war" and is punishable by both our own laws and international law. It opens the United States up to attack in response as a "defensive measure" by whomever we attacked first.

What the hell are these people smoking?

NO ONE, not the Congress, nor the President, nor the Joint Chiefs, nor the Defense Secretary has the authority to START a war, or conduct ANY military operation, much less one overseas and consisting of combat that is NOT defensive in nature to protect the several United States and that is not pursuant to either a Declaration of War issued by Congress, or to repress insurrection or repel invasion.

If those three conditions are not met, ANY such operation is entirely ILLEGAL and anyone following any orders in the carrying out of such action is subject to arrest, imprisonment and prosecution for murder and other crimes.

And yes, by definition, without further legislation, STARTING a war, is an impeachable offense.

Agree with your facts. Let me assist with your query.

Sorry I can not be more helpful on this matter.

As for your question: "What the hell are these people smoking?" May I be of assistance?
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"I know a good cigar better than you do, for I have had sixty years' experience. No, that is not what I mean; I mean I know a bad cigar better than anybody else. I judge by the price only; if it costs above 5 cents, I know it to be either foreign or half foreign and unsmokable.

By me I have many boxes of Havana cigars, of all prices, from 20 cents apiece up to $1.66 apiece; I bought none of them; they were all presents; they are an accumulation of several years. I have never smoked one of them, and never shall. I work them off on the visitor. You shall have a chance when you come." - letter to L. M. Powers, November 9, 1905; quoted in The New York Times, March 26, 1911

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul