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Be Very Wary of: "Liberty Movement Leeches"

This place is ground zero for not only opponent trolls but also their equally disgusting waste of space counterparts, that are sometimes overlapping, "LIBERTY LEECHES".

"I have a scheme today" LOL

We are riddled with them.

PLEASE HELP WARN the DP community and the LIBERTY movement at large about this additional threat to our ultimate success by leaving a brief comment. A simple "+" comment will do.

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This earlier post on the same topic should help clarify things

for those that are as yet unclear about the nature of "Liberty Leeches":

http://www.dailypaul.com/219365/camp-followers

Note: For comments pertaining to this post being related to any specific instance of money changing hands offerings in the name of "Liberty" please note the time of the above linked post.

Further, anyone asking for funds to fund purported "Liberty" stuff should expect and happily be prepared to lay any and all cards on the table so that the prospective Funders may fully examine what will be provided by any would be Fundees. This is standard in the non-Liberty/rife w/ corruption world. Should the Liberty world be held to a lower standard than the corruption world?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

So...

Why are you dodging contacting me directly to confirm we are authentic and help make sure we do all we can to be transparent about how we spend the money we raise?

Not dodging anything-Do you have an issue with answering the

basic questions I have asked in an open forum? The questions I am asking and your answers are intended to be seen by those whom you are asking to provide monetary support. We here have provided substantial monetary support to Ron Paul but we also have an amazingly extensive record about Ron Paul. As yet, there is little known of you and the five others.

If you recall, my offer was to do an audit. If you are unclear about what an audit means, for those that are precise in words, please do a quick search on the meaning.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Are you familiar w/ the provisions on the DP for sending personal emails to another DP member. If not ask.
If you would prefer to email me information about your group and would like certain, specifically indicated info to remain in confidence, I will respect all such requests. If the info is sufficient for my endorsement I could/would do so without divulging anything you wish not to be made public. However, if any of that info indicates less than a very high level of integrity that would be the least expected of a true LIBERTY effort-I would not endorse you-but would still maintain the promised confidentiality of the info provided.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

No problem at all

It's just that the tone of this and your other post seems to suggest that you have no intention of 'endorsing,' just doubting. I welcome the 'audit', I just think it would be much easier to give you the information you need in a phone call so I didn't have to spend so much time refreshing these pages to answer your questions. Wouldn't it have the same effect if you just called me and then reported everything you found on here? Even if you want to continue the whole thing on here, what's the reason not to call me anyway? This has been going on for hours now. You have shown no sign that you accept the possibility that we are just telling the truth, so please call me so I know I'm not wasting my time with someone who is just blindly hating.

Not blind hate by any stretch-just a serious matter taken

seriously. For me to go to bat for you w/ an endorsement of your effort you must achieve a quite high standard of integrity. That, perhaps, is the bad news but if favorable it should carry some heft since it is not just from some cursory and careless examination.

PS-Did you read the "IMPORTANT NOTE" added to my immediately preceding comment?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

no, i did not

I either missed it or it wasn't there originally. Please explain what you mean by it (I am not aware of the policy). And at no point did I suggest that I want anything about us kept confidential. I just don't see what the problem would be with contacting in another way to make this process more efficient. Even though we're in a van traveling, there are more productive things I can be doing (the least of which is getting some sleep for tomorrow). So please move this along.

For most members, depending on their personal settings

you can send them an email by clicking on their screen name.

If you would like to speak w/ me by phone, click on my screen name, "gmason08" and then click the "contact" tab. Send me a simple email w/ a contact phone number and I will call you.

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If you do send me an email please advise w/ a comment here or it will delay my receiving same.

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"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

ok....

I did exactly that several hours ago, but I will do it again right now. Please check it.

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Sent. But I checked the box to send myself a copy and haven't received it yet.

Again, my email is L41492@gmail.com, so it seems like it would be quite easy to just send me an email there...

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Somebody told me a "liberty leech" was someone capitalising

but not contributing.

And this on the day I open my new boutique to uniquely capitalise on your misery and bruising!

Smudge's Sack Cloth & Ashes Boutique!

http://www.dailypaul.com/219477/smudges-sack-cloth-ash-bouti...

Run, hobble or crawl but DEFINITELY don't walk.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

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LOL

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

I'll be honest, I have no idea what this post is about.

It seems like maybe you just don't like collectivists, which is great, but it also comes accross as you don't like grassroots people having ideas. I've had plenty of ideas I've posted on here, some caught on a bit, some tanked, but seeing as how Ron's official campaign has failed twice, I don't see the need to discourage the grassroots folks from sharing their ideas. If you don't like the wording, or the bossiness of some of the language, thats fine, but this post seems to be mostly a negative vibe. Maybe you were responding to something very negative, but it's not really very clear from the post.
Maybe some guidlines or examples of what you were talking about would help out here. You already have people "guessing" if you are directly talkinga bout their posts. Thats never a good thing.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

well

i think my guess was a good one since he tried to 'audit' me in the comments

http://www.dailypaul.com/219438/keep-the-ron-paul-roadies-going

scheme du jour...

I hearby forthwith most emphatically do declare that WE shall implement - Operation Liberty Lemonade Stand

I got the idea from John Stossel

just think of the possibilities, they're endless

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Hey

I hope this wasn't strictly a response to my post.

Surely you can accept the possibility of an authentic request for support, right?

Not if it contains "We need to...."

That's the sure sign of a collectivst, you say "we" but you mean ME, because you're not doing it.

No one is stopping anyone from implementing the next Great Idea.

If it's such a great idea, then do it yourself and ask others for support and you'll get it if it's a great idea.

But don't talk to me about what "we" need. I know g-d well what I need. If YOU need something, like help on your next Great Idea, then ask for my help, but don't collectivize with "we".

Confused...

Is this comment for me? Not sure what you're referring to.

hey hardie

sometimes post are generationally convoluted to those ,shall we say
not with the lingo. Tell me more bout leeches and I'll give u
the skinny on 714's

LOve the R3volution

well

i assume what he means by leeches is people like me who make posts like this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/219438/keep-the-ron-paul-roadies-going

but without doing the things we are actually out here doing.

It's apparent

the Rorer 714 has been deleted from tiers 1,2 and 3

LOve the R3volution