CRAZY? Your thoughts please.

It's one method of propaganda, to make you feel wrong to be associated with someone. After all, if he is spilling his guts about stuff like the debt and FR, they don't want him talking!

The only response that you have a chance with in these cases is to ask them why they think that he's crazy. They will not be able to give you an answer because he is not, and they have been brainwashed to think that. It may get them thinking that there really is no reason to think that. You could also say that others have thought that too, but once they learned more about him, they realized you would have to say that the Constitution was crazy in order to call Ron crazy.

If they are completely braindead, just move on to the next prospect.

By the way, I am getting very little of that lately. What I am getting more of is the other crap the media is throwing out about not being electable. If a person will listen, you just have to point out all the money he raised (are usually surprised by that), all the straw polls, all the donors, etc.

Again, if people are not receptive after a minute or two, simply move on to the next person. There are too many fools out there and we cannot convince them all. And we don't have to! A very small percentage vote in primaries and we just need enough of them.

By the way, I am 46, a new guy in our meetup is 53, and my mother is 83. None of us have ever voted in a primary. I still believe we are going to shock the world come this Tuesday.......but do not rest until that happens.

It shows you how much influence the powers that be have over the American people.

Of course, one of the most common things they accuse Dr. Paul of is isolationism and then they go on to say that we must intervene around the world to protect ourselves.

I then ask if they know how long our government has intervened in the internal affairs of Iraq, most say since 1991 and the First Gulf War; they are shocked when I tell them that our government has, in one way or another, intervened in Iraq for the last 87 years. I ask what has it gotten us? They can't answer.

I then go on to say that if a policy of intervention works then shouldn't we see some good results and the world be far safer since in the last 110 years our government has intervened in over 200 countries around the world, it has overthrown numerous elected foreign governments and has interfered with untold elections, economies and self-determination movements.

This is one of my favorite Ron Paul quotes about the Middle East and few detractors can rebut his logic on the issue:

“Practically speaking, our meddling in the Middle East has only intensified strife and conflict. American tax dollars have militarized the entire region. We give Israel about $3 billion each year, but we also give Egypt $2 billion. Most other Middle East countries get money too, some of which ends up in the hands of Palestinian terrorists. Both sides have far more military weapons as a result. Talk about adding fuel to the fire! Our foolish and unconstitutional foreign aid has produced more violence, not less.”—Ron Paul

I point out that the hypocrisy of our foreign policy can be found in the purported premise that we support “democracy” in the region and around the world, when just the opposite is and has been true. We have supported thugs, dictators, death squads, autocrats and oppressive regimes in the region, but not “democratic freedom”. Our history of supporting “democracy” around the world is dismal and has contributed to our current problems. Why shouldn’t people around the world hate us…all we have shown them is what they have seen by those we support and those we support have been some pretty nasty characters who have oppressed, maimed and killed their own people for generations.

Ron Paul detractors flail when I tell them that we are supporting Pakistan and there are probably far more members of al Qaeda there then any other place in the world…doesn’t make much sense when you are suppose to be fighting this grandly designed “war on terror” does it?

I also state that Ron Paul believes we are once again making the same exact mistakes in Pakistan as we did in Iran by supporting another hated "Shah" and the results will probably be similar.

Ron Paul has stated: “A coherent foreign policy is based on the understanding that America is best served by not interfering in the deadly conflicts that define the Middle East. Yes, we need Middle Eastern oil, but we can reduce our need by exploring domestic sources. We should rid ourselves of the notion that we are at the mercy of the oil-producing countries- as the world’s largest oil consumer; their wealth depends on our business. We should stop the endless game of playing faction against faction, and recognize that buying allies doesn’t work. We should curtail the heavy militarization of the area by ending our disastrous foreign aid payments. We should stop propping up dictators and putting band-aids on festering problems. We should understand that our political and military involvement in the region creates far more problems that it solves. All Americans will benefit, both in terms of their safety and their pocketbooks, if we pursue a coherent, neutral foreign policy of non-interventionism, free trade, and self-determination in the Middle East.”

Ron Paul has never said we should not defend ourselves against any enemy including “terrorists”, but that we wisely use both our financial and military resources in every region, including the Middle East. He has also stated that it is important that we let others support themselves and defend themselves because it really is not our job and has been shown, over and over again, to be futile and counterproductive. The last 110 years of American intervention has primarily served the interests of big oil, big business and big government, but not the actual interests of the United States of America.

Now, when we rationally consider the policies that this government has implemented over the last century, especially those of the last 50 years, then it becomes very obvious that our intervention and presence in the world, in all these nations has not provided the safety and national security that everyone thinks it does. There is a vast amount of evidence that supports the position that such policies have done precious little to ensure our safety or security around the world or on our own soil.

Until we come to grips with the reality of the world and re-evaluate our position in it we will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again, and believe me we have made some very dangerous mistakes and have taken some very dangerous positions in the world.

Show me how such policies have worked or just how they made us safer in this country? We have, after all, had plenty of practice and plenty of instances that should provide us with definite evidence that it has accomplished its purpose of security. The point is that you will be hard-pressed to show where such a foreign policy has actually helped this country or provided a realistic degree of security in this country, not in other countries, but in this one. Ron Paul is one of the strongest advocates of finally DEFENDING THIS COUNTRY, PROTECTING OUR BORDERS, AND SAFE-GUARDING US!!!

Over 100 years of military interventions in the region have proved fruitless and if the truth be known, have only exacerbated the factionalism and radicalism. The reality is that such radicalism, such Islamic extremism, cannot be stopped by the methods we have used for decades and in fact, our current policies only feed the fundamentalist fervor. Until we address very fundamental issues regarding our own use of force and coercion in the region, then the massive march of Islamic extremism will continue. We have been doing pretty much the same thing in that area for the last 50 years or so and tell me what it has produced? What is the results of that policy in the region?

The results are what we now see and it will only continue to get worse until we change the way we are perceived in the region and around the world by 1.3 Billion Muslims. That 1.3 Muslims are a vast pool of potential recruits and the more we attempt to control and dictate our will in that region the more recruits will volunteer. We are looking at the entire situation from a vantage point that is not only stale, but has proved over and over again to be dangerously faulty. As long as we continue with such policies then we can only expect an expansion of Islamic fundamentalism. Until we begin to think very differently about our role in the world, and adjust our expectations accordingly, then we will continue to be doomed to face an enemy that is currently enraged by our interventionist policies, but has the potential of becoming a far greater threat then they are currently. OUR POLICES HAVE NOT WORKED IN DECADES, DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK THAT BY DOING THE SAME OLE THING THAT MAYBE THIS TIME IT WILL WORK? When you continually commit yourself to the same failed actions there comes a time when you must begin rationally and honestly to ask yourself why are we failing?

MOST RON PAUL DETRACTORS SIMPLY CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE POSITION THAT IT IS TIME TO REALLY PROTECT THIS COUNTRY, PROTECT OUR SHORES AND BEGIN TO BUILD OUR MILTARY TO DO JUST THAT AND FOCUS ON OUR COUNTRY!

LIKE I SAID...TAKE THE WIND OUT OF THE DETRACTORS!

Have them watch the interviews done by PBS:

Bill Moyer Interview
Judy Woodruff/NewsHour Interview

Don't take it personal your not responsible for their stupidity or apathy. Don't let them decide ho your going to feel that giving up power to them. And don't let them characterize the debate. Just laugh and say something like Well most people that say that are misinformed or Ron Paul haters which one are you? or did you think of that yourself or did you hear it on TV or somehere?

Also there is good news. before this election I as very apathetic and at work when ever politics came up I wasn't interested except to say they are all crooks etc. Well hen I got on the Ron Paul band wagon my colleagues noticed and gave me some good natured ribbing. Which led to some discussion about Ron Paul. I lef them with lok him up on the internet. One guy seemed pretty inclined to vote for him and the other guy just said OK I will. I didn't think he really would .

Well the other day he comes to me and starts asking for help in converting his in laws I had no idea he even looked him up. So I get to thinking the other guy who I thought was in bag I hadn't really talked to him about it lately so I ask him are you voting for Ron Paul and he kind of hem haws and says well I like him but can he win... I just wanted to slap him... LOL! So I went to work on hims and am sending them bot the emails etc.

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If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. Samuel Adams

They called Howard Dean crazy. ("yeeaargaah!")
They called Nader crazy.
They called Perot crazy.

Left or right, all honest, grass-roots candidates that propose major change will be labeled insane.

The sad part is when a suggestion like, "follow the constitution" can be considered a major change. Hence, Paul - as well the constitution, are seen by our culture as crazy.

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Ban Everything

thats what you get..... and lots of it.

Attack back with facts, demand to see their facts.

It seems as though so many people are simply asleep... they are sitting by while little by little we are losing our precious freedoms.... win or lose it is our job and responsibility to help awaken the others.

People repeat whatever they've heard when they don't know any better. To different extents, we all do. Stay with them and talk.

Just say that the media keeps saying that over and over, it is a form of propaganda. The media is trying to tell the people who to vote for, by saying he is a "kook, crank, crackpot" etcetera. Same argument works for "can't win" statement. People are being brainwashed, they just cannot figure it out. Good luck.

bringing up Dr. Paul. That box in our living room is POWER. The MSM has so much influence. Just the visual pictures they show of Ron Paul are most times unflattering. The NYT cut him out of the picture today. Reporters have called him crazy on national television. Most people take that as gospel and are swayed right away. They need to be educated. I was never a political person, but now am involved more than ever. 80% of my friends and family never heard of Ron Paul (because MSM blacks him out). The other 20% says he's crazy(parroting MSM). But after watching you tube and doing research 90% say they will vote for him. It just takes education. Keep on keeping on!

GO RON PAUL!!

I guess the reality is some (perhaps most) Americans want to be TOLD who to vote for rather than do the research themselves. If they only did the research - which is as hard as visiting ronpaul2008. com and reading the issues - they would change their mind. But, that's asking too much. Sad.

Apparently freedom is a crazy idea.